Did anyone make a PL matchday thread?

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Sphyre: Jun 14, 2001

Bogan Krkic posted:

the point is that giving a red for that wouldnt be wrong, and giving a yellow also isnt wrong. many calls are subjective and var does nothing to help in that case, it just slows down the game and makes it more boring

not to mention the hundreds of calls that are made in a game that can't possibly be reviewed because it takes too long. is it just physical play or a foul? was that a goal kick or a corner? etc, etc.

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:30

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# ? May 4, 2024 18:59

Bogan Krkic: Oct 31, 2010; Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

Jose posted:

Fulham should probably have started their £30m midfielder instead of waiting to be losing 2-0

they did, but i assume you mean the other one who is slightly less bad

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:31

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Bogan Krkic posted:

they did, but i assume you mean the other one who is slightly less bad

Who was the other midfielder they paid that much for?

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:32

paddyboat: Feb 20, 2013; Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me

Sphyre posted:

not to mention the hundreds of calls that are made in a game that can't possibly be reviewed because it takes too long. is it just physical play or a foul? was that a goal kick or a corner? etc, etc.

Fulhams �goal� looked so offside at the time, it never would have been reviewed

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:32

Bogan Krkic: Oct 31, 2010; Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

Jose posted:

Who was the other midfielder they paid that much for?

Franck Andre Zambo Anguissa, who i think actually cost more than Seri?

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:33

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Bogan Krkic posted:

Franck Andre Zambo Anguissa, who i think actually cost more than Seri?

Maybe they should have spent some of that £100m on defenders who aren't poo poo

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:34

Bogan Krkic: Oct 31, 2010; Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

imagine spending one hundred million pounds and your best defender being callum chambers lol

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:35

EvilHawk: Sep 15, 2009; LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Sphyre posted:

not to mention the hundreds of calls that are made in a game that can't possibly be reviewed because it takes too long. is it just physical play or a foul? was that a goal kick or a corner? etc, etc.

This is a fallacy though, because VAR has (in other competitions at least) rules about when it can be used - usually for penalties, goals, red cards. They're not going to start trotting it out for every throw in.

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:36

paddyboat: Feb 20, 2013; Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me

Bogan Krkic posted:

imagine spending one hundred million pounds and your best defender being callum chambers lol

you could get 6.66 mamadou sakhos for that money

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:37

Bogan Krkic: Oct 31, 2010; Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

EvilHawk posted:

This is a fallacy though, because VAR has (in other competitions at least) rules about when it can be used - usually for penalties, goals, red cards. They're not going to start trotting it out for every throw in.

they won't, but what if a goal is scored from that free kick that wasn't a foul? or from the corner that should have been a goal kick? what if a player got a yellow that should have been red, and then scores the winner? surely var would improve the game if used in those circumstances too?

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:38

EvilHawk: Sep 15, 2009; LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Bogan Krkic posted:

they won't, but what if a goal is scored from that free kick that wasn't a foul? or from the corner that should have been a goal kick? what if a player got a yellow that should have been red, and then scores the winner? surely var would improve the game if used in those circumstances too?

I've used this slippery slope argument before. There has to be a cap on what VAR can review for sure.

I'm not in any way arguing that it's current implementation is perfect nor that it would make every game 100% fair.

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:40

oliwan: Jul 20, 2005; by Nyc_Tattoo

It's funny to me that VAR has been introduced everywhere to great acclaim except in the premier league because the british are literally retarded lol

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:40

Bogan Krkic: Oct 31, 2010; Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

EvilHawk posted:

I've used this slippery slope argument before. There has to be a cap on what VAR can review for sure.

I'm not in any way arguing that it's current implementation is perfect nor that it would make every game 100% fair.

i just would prefer that cap to be nothing, but its ok and i accept that im fighting against the tide. its not bad enough that i dont like to watch football with it, so once it's widespread enough i'll just forget about it and so will everyone else that didn't want it, much like im sure it was when we invented the backpass rule or whatever other changes have happened

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:42

Bogan Krkic: Oct 31, 2010; Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

oliwan posted:

It's funny to me that VAR has been introduced everywhere to great acclaim except in the premier league because the british are literally retarded lol

its not widely popular in australia either but we're all idiots who can't play football properly anyway

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:43

EvilHawk: Sep 15, 2009; LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Bogan Krkic posted:

i just would prefer that cap to be nothing, but its ok and i accept that im fighting against the tide. its not bad enough that i dont like to watch football with it, so once it's widespread enough i'll just forget about it and so will everyone else that didn't want it, much like im sure it was when we invented the backpass rule or whatever other changes have happened

That's cool and I get that not everyone will be happy with it. I just don't understand the mindset of people who say "well it won't fix everything so what's the point" or "it'll take refs 30 seconds longer to check a replay, and that will be the death of football".

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:44

Bogan Krkic: Oct 31, 2010; Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

EvilHawk posted:

That's cool and I get that not everyone will be happy with it. I just don't understand the mindset of people who say "well it won't fix everything so what's the point" or "it'll take refs 30 seconds longer to check a replay, and that will be the death of football".

i just find it much more frustrating when you have var, and a game changing event happens (goal scored from an incorrectly awarded free kick etc) and isn't reviewed, or is reviewed incorrectly, than if var just wasn't there

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:45

oliwan: Jul 20, 2005; by Nyc_Tattoo

There have been some issues with implementation of VAR in the various leagues, bit that is to be expected since it's the first year of using it. Overall it has been a massive success and has made games fairer, less frustrating and frankly more fun to watch as players have largely stopped constantly whining and accosting refs. The British see this development and say no thanks lol

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:46

Bogan Krkic: Oct 31, 2010; Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

oliwan posted:

There have been some issues with implementation of VAR in the various leagues, bit that is to be expected since it's the first year of using it. Overall it has been a massive success and has made games fairer, less frustrating and frankly more fun to watch as players have largely stopped constantly whining and accosting refs. The British see this development and say no thanks lol

i mean, i've been watching my team play for 2 seasons with var, won a title due to a var fuckup, and i still don't agree with anything you've said here, but go off i guess

as with anything in football its all down to implementation and interpretation, and isn't universally better or worse

# ? Nov 11, 2018 14:47