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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

yeah it was easier to make fun of weaver as "lol comic books guy" before the utter embarrassment of the Hillary generation election campaign at the hands of the most insider political operatives possible

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/1072878783273807874

lol

Themage
Jul 21, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
as long as the ritual stones arent destroyed klobuchar should be safely contained in the great lakes region

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Themage posted:

as long as the ritual stones arent destroyed klobuchar should be safely contained in the great lakes region

*people in all over the eastern seaboard spontaneously begin referring to casserole as hot dish*

oh...oh no...

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Themage posted:

as long as the ritual stones arent destroyed klobuchar should be safely contained in the great lakes region

Hopefully

galenanorth has issued a correction as of 03:43 on Dec 13, 2018

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



if julian castro had run for governor instead of just being a big coward he still would have lost but would be getting the same amount if hype as beto instead of an instant assignee to the undercard debate

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

Shear Modulus posted:

if julian castro had run for governor instead of just being a big coward he still would have lost but would be getting the same amount if hype as beto instead of an instant assignee to the undercard debate

Only if he had raised an enormous amount of money and clearly signaled that he stands for nothing that would jeopardize the consulting class. Abrams and Gillum lost just as close a race as Beto, but they are not getting the same hype.

Beto is hyped because the consultant class sees an incredible opportunity to grift.

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

If the DNC are going to make sure the multiple tier debates are "random" most likely they will make sure that the establishment picks are in one debate while Bernie is in the other one, to make sure Bloomberg, Biden and Beto get top billing and to prevent Bernie from going Super Saiyan on Bloomberg

Basically Bernie will be isolated as much as they can get him since they obviously (and with good reason) see him as a threat to establishment power

Feldegast42 has issued a correction as of 21:44 on Dec 12, 2018

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Feldegast42 posted:

If the DNC are going to make sure the multiple tier debates are "random" most likely they will make sure that the establishment picks are in one debate while Bernie is in the other one, to make sure Bloomberg, Biden and Beto get top billing and to prevent Bernie from going Super Saiyan on Bloomberg

Basically Bernie will be isolated as much as they can get him since they obviously (and with good reason) see him as a threat to establishment power

Have they made noise about doing this? As much as they want to ratfuck Bernie, they want to consolidate around a single candidate just as bad, and while random draw would potentially hurt Bernie, it would be worse for whittling down the field to their "acceptable" candidates.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Azathoth posted:

Have they made noise about doing this? As much as they want to ratfuck Bernie, they want to consolidate around a single candidate just as bad, and while random draw would potentially hurt Bernie, it would be worse for whittling down the field to their "acceptable" candidates.

There is a way to make sure randomization is isn't rigged, and that's by using a random number generator which uses something agreed to be unpredictable, like the results of the national lottery the week before the debate, as the seed. Then someone would be able to independently run the same random number generator for some computer language and independently verify it. I'd like to see someone suggest that to them if they ever had a chance

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



wait are they really going to draw names out of a hat to see who gets to be in the primetime debate and who goes in the one that nobody will watch

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

No, they'll have one big clowncar debate because it's good TV once then have heavy cutoffs to force a reduction in the field.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Azathoth posted:

No, they'll have one big clowncar debate because it's good TV once then have heavy cutoffs to force a reduction in the field.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
the only way to have Real and Fair Debates for Bernard Sanders is through *flips through list* blockchains

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme


Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



good news...for gropey joe!!

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Trabisnikof posted:

yeah it was easier to make fun of weaver as "lol comic books guy" before the utter embarrassment of the Hillary generation election campaign at the hands of the most insider political operatives possible

There's still plenty to criticize about Weaver. With Bernie's stature coming into 2020 I genuinely believe he can do better, and it sounds like many activists would be more enthusiastic about joining with Weaver out of the picture.

I mean, Clinton's campaign was an historic failure, yes, but we can do better than "not Clinton's people lol" in terms of expertise.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Here's the recent Iowa poll that puts Biden at 32 and Bernie at 19. Other deets: no one wants Clinton or Bloomberg.

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/12/15/rel1iademocrats.pdf

THS
Sep 15, 2017

man this primary is gonna succ

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXbIDwLeeEo

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Vox Nihili posted:

There's still plenty to criticize about Weaver. With Bernie's stature coming into 2020 I genuinely believe he can do better, and it sounds like many activists would be more enthusiastic about joining with Weaver out of the picture.

I mean, Clinton's campaign was an historic failure, yes, but we can do better than "not Clinton's people lol" in terms of expertise.
Let me preface this by saying that I'm all in for Bernie.

The founding of Our Revolution tells all everyone needs to know about Weaver and how far Bernie is willing to go to keep him around.

The majority of the staff up and quit when Weaver was announced as the boss. It's hard to say exactly what Bernie promised them, but they all clearly hated Weaver and had some kind of assurance, if not an outright promise, that he wouldn't be involved. Then, surprise! Guess who your new boss is?

The most charitable reading is that Bernie led them on before making a final decision, and those staffers read too much into it, but it's frankly obvious that Bernie pulled a bait and switch to get Weaver in charge with the hope that the staff wouldn't revolt and that when faced with said revolt, he chose Weaver over those staff members.

I don't have any inside line on this, but expecting him to replace Weaver is, to put it mildly, unlikely.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



yeah need to focus on destroying biden

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

yeah need to focus on destroying biden

ill make the wiki

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Toot toot, make way for the Castro Train

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

yeah need to focus on destroying biden

Biden's already destroyed himself, luckily. We just need to remind voters of that before the primaries.

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KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


beto really is a secret weapon deployed by the DNC to court the less naive Berniers and young Kkklinton supporters

TRUMP?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/1075154081826643968

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

lies, drat lies, and DNC-backed statistics

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Feldegast42 posted:

If the DNC are going to make sure the multiple tier debates are "random" most likely they will make sure that the establishment picks are in one debate while Bernie is in the other one, to make sure Bloomberg, Biden and Beto get top billing and to prevent Bernie from going Super Saiyan on Bloomberg

Basically Bernie will be isolated as much as they can get him since they obviously (and with good reason) see him as a threat to establishment power
alternative: one hour policy debate with 24 candidates crammed into that single debate and given roughly equal airtime

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