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bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Taintrunner posted:

the 2024 primaries began seven years ago
friend, they began on October 13th, 1989

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bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

dEspItE SoMe wArNiNg SiGnS

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

basic hitler posted:

FDR was an elite from an elite family who rightly saw the mob coming for all his nice poo poo and rammed thru reforms to save him and his buddies against their wishes. He's a hero of rich ppl
that this also makes him the most successfully progressive president in US history speaks volumes

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

zegermans posted:

why the gently caress isn't Sherrod Brown running, isn't he mostly an 11 year younger bernie
his Senate seat is too valuable to give up

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

The more I think about it, the more I think it'll be virtually impossible for an unknown/longshot to win the nomination. The reason for this is a combination of a large field at the start, and the changes to the primary schedule.

Specifically, CA and TX are both on Super Tuesday now. These are physically large states with very large delegate counts. The winner(s) of those primaries will be very well positioned going forward. But campaigning in those states will be expensive, which will stand as a barrier to long-shot candidates and likely deplete the war-chests of anyone without a strong initial following. On top of that, CA has so many vote-by-mail voters that you can't just start campaigning there after IA/NH/NV/SC.

The conventional path for a relative unknown or longshot candidate to win, by winning early in IA/NH and building momentum after that, is derailed by the expensive necessity to win in CA and TX early. Maybe someone could do it if they sweep or win at least three of those first four contests, but in a crowded field that is extremely unlikely.

For these reasons, I don't see how anyone aside from Bernie/Biden/Beto/Harris wins. Bernie and Biden have the anti-establishment/establishment frontrunner status, Beto and Harris have home field advantage for TX/CA.

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

MysteriousStranger posted:

He's not a known grifter, Bernie is.

Doesn't matter though neither is getting the nom.
that's quite a galaxy brain take you got there

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bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Right, but it is incredibly difficult to build a significant ground game in places like CA and TX if you're starting from minimal name recognition in a crowded field.

I had forgotten about the proportional delegate rules on the Dem side, that does change the calculus somewhat.

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