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It gets worse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Gove#Early_life_and_career_outside_Parliament He was adopted by a working class, Labour voting family and holds himself as an example of what people can become if they only work hard enough because he was lucky enough to get a scholarship so of course it's that easy for everyone.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Early Brexmas present Guavanaut, as I've been slacking since April. I'd like to draw attention to OP's pic in April 2014, a full 18 months before the Event become public knowledge. Truly, a modern Cassandra walks amongst us. e; whatever happened to Zero Gravitas anyway?
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Lightning Knight posted:Ok seriously who the gently caress is this guy and why did you guys let him be in your government? He was literally adopted by the head of a fish processing company. I can only assume he's the UK government's special liaison with BLUE HADES.
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Of course she does the thing where she wears her glasses right down the end of her nose. Of course she loving does.
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Bruce Schneier and Henry Farrell have written a thing; Farrell has some additional commentary here. My own thoughts: 1. It's considerably less fluffy than the usual meandering discussion on what deliberative democracy is supposed to achieve, which is nice 2. The paper mainly focuses on Russian disinformation efforts but it's consistent with what we know about e.g. contemporary Chinese disinformation efforts - that pro-government online efforts do not focus on propagating a particular state narrative but instead in creating doubt in civil-social non-governmental institutions 3. This is obviously bad for radical politics (where distrust in mainstream non-governmental institutions is endemic) but Schneier and Farrell don't pursue that angle). A defining aspect of radical politics is the assumption that existing mainstream institutions should be replaced by revolution (non-violent or otherwise) with another set of wholly different institutions, which obviously will win superior trust by virtue of their self-evident superiority. Virulent ideological struggle, as we know, is a great way of engendering shared consensus reality /s... getting from Point A to Point B always has something of a "then a miracle occurs" quality to it. 4. Schneier and Farrell make the obvious point that the apolitical gathering of statistics plays an enormous role: quote:However, there are other important sources of This is a great point - it is hard to understate the degree to which e.g. debates over economic systems and ideology in long 19th century functioned in an atmosphere of nearly total ignorance and total speculation about actual conditions of unemployment or wage conditions at large, simply because nobody was going out there to gather hard quantitative data (e.g., Engels simply makes up stuff for pre-industrial conditions in his famous Condition of the Working Class in England - it's not his fault, there wasn't a better way in the 1840s, but it's worth reflecting upon the fact that the immiseration narrative as applied to the 19th century English working class was taken as gospel truth for more than a century despite being generally derided today - the pessimistic school shifted to "well the increase in real wages wasn't that much" since the 1970s) There are limits to this, perhaps - it doesn't matter how many times one bleats generally-accepted statistics about immigration or foreign aid, people will believe in an alternate consensus reality and that's it - but perhaps it does matter for how inter-elite struggles shake out 5. We should keep in mind, I think, that it is pretty normal for large numbers of people to believe, passionately and sincerely to the point of being willing to fight and die for its ideas, in narratives which their own factional leadership might privately deride or hold in contempt. Even healthy democracies harbour a nationalist mythos - some element elites concede to be myths - and this is normally fine, insofar as these indulgent myths do not stray into the path of the politics that matters. This is a normal part of the human condition and not some special aspect of Brexit Britane; what changes is whether politics is mainly a duel between the elites of each group or a struggle at large.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qOyT3ZkUxI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmRYGRILOxU Slugnoid fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Dec 1, 2018 |
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Lightning Knight posted:Ok seriously who the gently caress is this guy and why did you guys let him be in your government? He's kind of like our Ted Cruz
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quote:When they reached North Sentinel in the morning, Mr. Chau assembled a collapsible kayak because the fishermen refused to go to the island with him, insisting on staying a half mile out. loving wanker
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It's Brexit time There's no need to be afraid At Brexit time We banish Poles and let in trade And in our world of plenty We can spread a smile of joy Throw your arms around UK At Brexit time But say a prayer Pray for the other ones At Brexit time it's hard But when you're having fun There's a world outside your window And it's a world of project fear Where the only water flowing Are remoaner loser tears And the economic forecasts Are the clanging chimes of Doom Well thank God we know what's best For all of you There are no go zones Birmingham pre Brexit time Tarquin says that's bullshit but he lies Where white men never go Where the bombs are set to blow Do they know it's Brexit time at all? Here's to you Raise a glass for everyone Here's to them Do they even read The Sun Do they know it's Brexit time at all? gently caress the world gently caress the world gently caress the world Let them know it's Brexit time again gently caress the world Let them know it's Brexit time again
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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article219494920.html#storylink=latest_sidequote:As the years went by and Roberts had a daughter, she would be haunted by a fear that Epstein was still taking advantage of young girls. In 2011, she went public in a paid interview with a British tabloid, the Daily Mail, asserting that she had had sex with Prince Andrew, one of Epstein’s friends, several times when she was a teen. 
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Bush (Sr) dead
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Not Operator posted:As ever, I want to point out his wife writes for the paper and once published a column for the entire country to see about how sex with your husband is basically another household chore, like doing the laundry. I take this to mean he fucks like he claps. Wait, no, this is an old document. Very old. It says that Michael Gove ſucks. Michael Gove ſucks aß.
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Praseodymi posted:Bush (Sr) dead So what
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The Eternal Gammon https://twitter.com/Sisyphusa/status/1068460309797629953
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Mr Gammons sounds like one of the Victorian euphemisms for the devil. A being composed entirely of hate, anger, and Question Time clips.
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Guavanaut posted:I have conclusive evidence that Michael Gove fucks. He fucks as well as he does anything else. He's married to a newspaper columnist who has written multiple articles about how unsatisfying sex is.
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Guavanaut posted:Mr Gammons sounds like one of the Victorian euphemisms for the devil. Add a soupçon of Daily Mail comment pieces and we have my father-in-law
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Then they leave, their fantasy hour over, and they go back to crushing the poor. Do WOTW not understand why men visit dommes?
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Qwertycoatl posted:He fucks as well as he does anything else. He's married to a newspaper columnist who has written multiple articles about how unsatisfying sex is.
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Praseodymi posted:Bush (Sr) dead Should've taken kissinger down to hell with him.
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Praseodymi posted:Bush (Sr) dead Ahh, can't wait to watch the cascade of liberals writing essays about how fantastic he was.
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Miftan posted:Should've taken kissinger down to hell with him.
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TheRat posted:Ahh, can't wait to watch the cascade of liberals writing essays about how fantastic he was. Its already started in The Guardian. He was a steady hand when the Soviet Union collapsed apparently.
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Are you surprised? Just wait until Kissinger goes and they talk about his actions leading (in the long term) to democratisation in South America.
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Pesmerga posted:Are you surprised? No, but I still despair.
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So what horrible poo poo did Bush Senior get up to again?
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I just posted it
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Darth Walrus posted:So what horrible poo poo did Bush Senior get up to again? He was head of the CIA, Reagan's VP, and then POTUS during the Gulf War. Rest in piss.
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Lets go with the obvious one of his children though
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Darth Walrus posted:So what horrible poo poo did Bush Senior get up to again? Desert Storm, NAFTA, Panama coup to name a few
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Jose posted:I just posted it I've never been all that sure about Iraq 1. That Killing Hope chapter I read reminded me of a Ronya post - the bits I didn't know about were compelling, but the parts I did know something about (like Iraq's historical claim to Kuwait) were total bullshit, which made me kind of suspicious about the whole thing.
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Darth Walrus posted:I've never been all that sure about Iraq 1. That Killing Hope chapter I read reminded me of a Ronya post - the bits I didn't know about were compelling, but the parts I did know something about (like Iraq's historical claim to Kuwait) were total bullshit, which made me kind of suspicious about the whole thing. He was commander in chief for this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death the cspam thread has some of his greatest hits https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3875883
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Jedit posted:Then they leave, their fantasy hour over, and they go back to crushing the poor. Do WOTW not understand why men visit dommes? A Buttery Pastry posted:He just sorta releases into the bathtub.
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