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Best Not WWE Name
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Up North 70 41.92%
New York 21 12.57%
Titan 12 7.19%
Stamford 18 10.78%
The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel 46 27.54%
Total: 167 votes
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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Asuka is such small potatoes compared to everyone else on this list that I don't think it's worth bothering

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fatherofmustard
May 15, 2018

MassRafTer posted:

Yes, I am talking about kicking someone unprotected in the face full force and giving them a concussion.

When did this happen?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Benne posted:

Asuka is such small potatoes compared to everyone else on this list that I don't think it's worth bothering

MRT has a huge hate boner for Asuka

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Asuka sucks you guys just have a hard on for her because she *checks notes* likes video games?!

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.
As much as I love the Harts :canada: I feel like Stu could be on here for abusing trainees and cleaning the litter box with the same spatula he used to cook pancakes.

Karmine
Oct 23, 2003

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

Chinston Wurchill posted:

As much as I love the Harts :canada: I feel like Stu could be on here for abusing trainees and cleaning the litter box with the same spatula he used to cook pancakes.

Also his sons all peed on each other.

MRT after the Warrior tournament let’s do the Hitman Piss Classic please.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

stan hansen and vader were overly stiff as well, those pieces of poo poo. make sure they're in it

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Did Stu Hart even do anything in WWE other than making random appearances in his sons' angles

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Benne posted:

Asuka is such small potatoes compared to everyone else on this list that I don't think it's worth bothering

If Low Ki fits then someone who did the literal same thing does. If there is no room, then they won't be on. Gave people concussions on purpose definitely fits the criteria.

Vader is definitely on in the same tier as Holly since he you know, assaulted people.

Stu was a WWE promoter for one year so he fits!

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Cavauro posted:

stan hansen and vader were overly stiff as well, those pieces of poo poo. make sure they're in it

Stan Hansen is an interesting case because he was basically working blind for a good portion of his career, whereas people like Vader and Low Ki could see perfectly well what they were doing.

Et: I don't mean this as saying "he's better because he couldn't see", it's more that that clear intentionality from a Low Ki is replaced by a sheer recklessness on Hansen's part that depending on your viewpoint may be worse.

I Before E fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jan 19, 2019

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

I Before E posted:

Stan Hansen is an interesting case because he was basically working blind for a good portion of his career, whereas people like Vader and Low Ki could see perfectly well what they were doing.

Hansen was also stiffing people who were lighting him up right back, and it was intentionally for the purpose of realism, rather than injuring someone.

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jan 19, 2019

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

do wwe hall of famers count because abdullah is terrible

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

I feel like Cowboy Bob should count for bleeding on people while he knew he had hepatitis but I'm not sure if he meets the year criteria.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

It's time to stop making excuses for Stan Hansen

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

"Working stiff" is legitimate criteria, in theory, I think. Certainly "willful disregard for someone's safety" or "deliberate attempts to hurt someone" do. I'm not sure if we can necessarily be sure of some of that stuff or draw a clear line between "working stiff" and "working strong" or whatever.

But like, that's mostly just a debate for the matchups, I guess. As long as there aren't much more evil snubs who lose their spots to someone who "worked stiff" then we just hash it out when the 64th seed is someone who hits people hard and they're facing the 1st seed who murdered his family or raped children or something. It will work itself out.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i've thought of some more. Nia Jax keeps on injuring people. and Seth Rollins did. Put them on... the list!

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Asuka cosplayed in some nazi gear which is decidedly NOT COOL.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

coconono posted:

Asuka cosplayed in some nazi gear which is decidedly NOT COOL.

that's just called being a gamer

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


I think being stiff while not cool is not scummy if both wrestlers are on it. Hansen only really went hard with guys that were okay with it whereas Vader and Bob Holly did it to prove points

Even than I think even stiffing an unwilling wrestler is probably not enough to get on the list you have to have something more.

Also, has Inoki done enough WWF/WWE work to make the tournament?

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

SatoshiMiwa posted:

I think being stiff while not cool is not scummy if both wrestlers are on it. Hansen only really went hard with guys that were okay with it whereas Vader and Bob Holly did it to prove points

Even than I think even stiffing an unwilling wrestler is probably not enough to get on the list you have to have something more.

I agree. Low Ki, who's had a sustained pattern of taking liberties with opponents, is different from someone like Finlay, who as far as I'm aware never pulled that stuff on someone who hadn't agreed to hit him just as hard.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

I Before E posted:

I feel like Cowboy Bob should count for bleeding on people while he knew he had hepatitis but I'm not sure if he meets the year criteria.

He was there for at least a year in the 80s so he fits. Also dd Lars Sullivan for being a white supremacist.

TTBF
Sep 14, 2005



Hedgehog Pie posted:

I didn't even know he was a thing until I looked him up. Did he actually have anything else to him other than his famous dad (who has a really controversial legacy himself)?

He had a few things to his name, such as writing/directing an episode or two of TV before co-writing Chronicle. The success of that movie let him branch into other things, the most successful of which was Bright. He's also done some shorts, such as Wrestling Isn't Wrestling where he told the story of HHH's career and cast all the wrestlers to be women. During the filming of that, he did some things which spawned a few #metoo tweets but someone will need to find the tweets to get more specific. I remember the woman who played Batista mentioned it, but I can't recall the others. Other than his work in TV & Film his biggest contribution to the arts is calling the Star Wars lady a mary sue; starting that whole thing off.

Overall the dude isn't bad at making TV length stuff but his longer work suffers and he'd be an absolute unknown if he didn't have a famous helicopter parent.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Karmine posted:

Also his sons all peed on each other.

MRT after the Warrior tournament let’s do the Hitman Piss Classic please.

RIP pisscast

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

TTBF posted:

famous helicopter parent.
my God

Wazzu
Feb 28, 2008

Are you sure I'm winning the Rumble? That does'nt seem right.....

TTBF posted:

He had a few things to his name, such as writing/directing an episode or two of TV before co-writing Chronicle. The success of that movie let him branch into other things, the most successful of which was Bright. He's also done some shorts, such as Wrestling Isn't Wrestling where he told the story of HHH's career and cast all the wrestlers to be women. During the filming of that, he did some things which spawned a few #metoo tweets but someone will need to find the tweets to get more specific. I remember the woman who played Batista mentioned it, but I can't recall the others. Other than his work in TV & Film his biggest contribution to the arts is calling the Star Wars lady a mary sue; starting that whole thing off.

Overall the dude isn't bad at making TV length stuff but his longer work suffers and he'd be an absolute unknown if he didn't have a famous helicopter parent.

6 films and a TV series isn't nothing. But yeah he's noted for having a public face and lots of content on his YouTube channel......

Until disappearing after the sexual assault allegations.

fatherofmustard
May 15, 2018

MassRafTer posted:

If Low Ki fits then someone who did the literal same thing does. If there is no room, then they won't be on. Gave people concussions on purpose definitely fits the criteria.

Vader is definitely on in the same tier as Holly since he you know, assaulted people.

Stu was a WWE promoter for one year so he fits!

When did she give someone a concussion on purpose? I know she gave Emma one but I thought that was an accident.

TTBF
Sep 14, 2005



Wazzu posted:

6 films and a TV series isn't nothing. But yeah he's noted for having a public face and lots of content on his YouTube channel......

Until disappearing after the sexual assault allegations.

I hadn't heard about the Dirk Gently TV series before this post caused me to look it up. I only knew of his Masters of Horror episode from when he shilled it on SA back when he was trying to become a GBS personality. I remember it being OK.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Max Landis being a former goon is the least surprising development

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

fatherofmustard posted:

When did she give someone a concussion on purpose? I know she gave Emma one but I thought that was an accident.

In Japan, there's a pretty famous gif of it. It was before she got blackballed from most of the joshi promotions (for other reasons.) I think 9 or 10 years ago? It's been awhile.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Smoking Crow posted:

that's just called being a gamer

Excellent point. Also add Xavier Woods for this.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Since the qualifications are confusing people I am thinking of just opening it up to anyone who was primarily involved in wrestling as their profession which would exclude Trump, a certain serial killer and Saville.

It'd allow in Inoki, Sasaki, Invader 1 and a bunch of other people we're debating, but also take out people like Landis who fit the qualification but not really.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Put Owen Hart in the tournament. mark henry was one of his best friends in WWF, and owen still prank called someone very close to Mark both personally and professionally, and pretended like he was a disgruntled neighbor who was going to shoot and kill all of the man's cows. instead of revealing it to be a joke, Owen allowed the situation to become more and more heated before hanging up. The man, Terry Todd, suffered a great deal of undue stress.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Clearly I'm out of the loop here, what was Jimmy Savile's connection to wrestling?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Benne posted:

Clearly I'm out of the loop here, what was Jimmy Savile's connection to wrestling?

He wrestled briefly before being a TV host I believe

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.

Benne posted:

Clearly I'm out of the loop here, what was Jimmy Savile's connection to wrestling?

He dabbled in wrestling early on, but the stories I've heard from after he made it are that he would be brought in every now and then for the "celebrity gets beaten up but still wins" spot.

Adrian Street claims that he "used to go on and on about the young girls who’d wait in line for him outside his dressing room (...) He’d pick the ones he wanted and say to the rest, ‘Unlucky , come back again tomorrow night’."

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/i-beat-jimmy-savile-black-6265408

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Every new thing I learn about Savile is more depressing than the last

Also "pervert DJ" is an uh, interesting way to describe a horrific serial predator, Welsh newspaper I haven't heard of until now

Benne fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Jan 20, 2019

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Benne posted:

Every new thing I learn about Savile is more depressing than the last

Also "pervert DJ" is an uh, interesting way to describe a horrific serial predator, Welsh newspaper I haven't heard of until now

The thread in GBS about the BBC pedocaust was simultaneously depressing, disgusting, and fascinating, just because there was always more and it always worse, but it was insane how deep the coverup went.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
He hosed corpses op

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

If Savile gets added I really can't see anyone else worthy of winning. Vince and Trump are friends but the cover up there went up to Thatcher.

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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Anyway, if we're opening up the field to non-WWE people then we gotta include Yoshiko for shooting on Act Yasukawa and ending her career

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On February 22, 2015, Yoshiko faced former stablemate Act Yasukawa in her third defense of the World of Stardom Championship. The match saw Yoshiko go off script,[25] legitimately beating Yasukawa until veteran wrestler Kyoko Kimura threw in a towel to end the match after less than eight minutes.[26][27] Afterwards, Yasukawa was diagnosed with fractured cheek, nasal and orbital bones, which required surgery.[28][29] Yasukawa had had issues with her eyes before the incident, having undergone a cataract surgery the previous year.[29] On February 25, Stardom held a press conference, during which Yoshiko publicly apologized for the incident, after which she was stripped of the World of Stardom Championship and suspended indefinitely.[30][31] The incident received mainstream attention in Japan and became known as Seisan Matchi (凄惨マッチ, "Ghastly Match").[32][33] The incident also strained the relationship between Stardom's management and top wrestler Nanae Takahashi, leading to Takahashi quitting the promotion in May.[34] On May 31, Stardom announced that Yoshiko had decided to retire from professional wrestling.[35][36] Her retirement ceremony took place on June 14, however, during the closing ten-bell salute meant to signal the end of her career, Yoshiko walked out on the ceremony, leading to questions over whether she was truly retired.[37][38] Yasukawa eventually returned to the ring on September 23, 2015,[39][40] but retired the following December due to the damage inflicted on her eye in the incident with Yoshiko.

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