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Best Not WWE Name
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Up North 70 41.92%
New York 21 12.57%
Titan 12 7.19%
Stamford 18 10.78%
The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel 46 27.54%
Total: 167 votes
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ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
Haven't listened to the podcast yet, but is the Jimmy Snuka cover-up on the bracket? It's less verifiable than most of these, but it would be on the level of the Owen stuff if it's true.

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ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
Boxing is scripted and millions of people pay to see the big fights.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
Apparently they tried to justify the Triple H promo by claiming that he was talking about ex-cons, not black people. Because nappy hair is a race-neutral ex-con stereotype.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014

mkay0 posted:

Where can I read more about this?

There's lots of articles about the subject, but most of them just focus on the promo and the Wrestlemania match. This Wrestlecrap article is the first I could find that brings up the company's justification, but it's even worse than what the Wikipedia article claims. During a press conference for Wrestlemania XIX, Michael Cole asks Triple H if his promo was racist. That leads to this audio clip, where Triple H laughs at the idea and suggests that YOU are the real racist if you think the promo was racist.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014

Alaois posted:

wasn't the shocking twist ending of that angle that his girlfriend was lying about it all along

Similar to that, there was also a miscarriage angle with Terri where the twist was that she was never actually pregnant. Russo sure loved his "lying woman" angles.

EFB

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
As far as purely fictional WWE storylines go, Kane/Lita has to be up there with the worst. Rapist turning sympathetic face, miscarriage turned into comedy.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014

sticklefifer posted:

It also spawned the best cross-brand PPV segment ever from arguably their two worst guys at the time:
(heavy breathing)
Snitsky: I like your poems.
Heidenreich: I like what you do to babies.
(grunting, heavy breathing)
Snitsky: I'll see you later.
(more heavy breathing and grunting)

Please don't post my slash fic without permission.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
*Looks at an opening post featuring dozens of awful ways that the WWE has treated its workers over the years, including racism, misogyny, exploiting death and negligently killing people*

"Yeah, this seems like a reasonable, professional workplace that would have a mature reaction to someone refusing a direct order."

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
Just sue the billion dollar corporation with amazing lawyers, that is also a monopoly and the only reliable source of income in your profession now that they bought all of their competition. The United States is known for its pro-labor stance on employment law, right?

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
I'm on the "Katie Vick was stupid, Goldust was hurtful" train. Katie Vick was "disgusting" in the most literal sense, but I don't think it did any real harm, whereas enforcing gay panic absolutely did. And "people didn't know homophobia was a bad thing in the 90's" is a bullshit excuse that can gently caress right off.

Final 4 predictions are Owen, Ring Boy Scandal, GRR and I'm going to pick Snuka as a dark horse candidate. I realize that Snuka technically doesn't include the potential cover-up of his crimes, but I think that will influence the vote for a lot of people. Predicting either Ring Boy Scandal or Owen as the winner, with GRR as the runner-up.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
"Two people pretend to fight" isn't irredeemably toxic, unless you consider fake violence to be inherently toxic (and I wouldn't expect to see you on this subforum in that case). The toxic elements come from either the lovely people behind the scenes, or from the culture surrounding wrestling. Wrestling can be presented like an athletic competition, or like a family-friendly cartoon, or like a self-aware showcase for hardcore fans. Or it can be crash TV going for shock value because that's what people wanted in the 90's, or it can draw on real tragedies for "heat" because the promoters are running out of any other ideas.

Mocking a disability is hosed up no matter the victim, but I have to go with "gently caress Warrior" here.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014

TTBF posted:

(because focusing on the implants would raise discussion of "Why does a female athlete need breast implants in WWE when she didn't in NXT?")

To which she can respond "because I wanted to get them" and to which WWE can respond "we're entertainment, not a sport." The pressure to get implants (both direct and indirect) is bad, but women can get implants if they want to.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
Did 3MW stiff the women intentionally, or were they just unsafe workers?

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Unless I'm mixing angles/matches up, it was long after they got married and came about because Vince felt she'd done a poor job of running RAW. Match ended with Vince choking her out with a lead pipe after taking 80% of the match

The match happened October 19th 2003, the wedding was October 25th.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
One of the funniest moments I've ever had at work was getting a contract with the title "independent contractor" on my desk. Immediately pinged my bullshit radar thanks to knowing the bullshit WWE uses to get away with it.

Voting for independent contractor, but unless I'm mistaken, WWE never offered Chyna the sponsored rehab that they offered a lot of other former employees? That alone could give Chyna a higher seed in my eyes.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
Yeah, you can say that the B4A wasn't mandatory, but there sure was pressure to enter it for the guys who did (except Bradshaw, who thought that he could kick everyone's rear end and is apparently the reason Russo came up with the idea in the first place).

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
Not only does WWE not deserve the benefit of the doubt, but Owen's death was the result of a stunt that he didn't want to do, was pressured into, and the death was due to the company's negligence rather than a freak accident. I can understand excusing the "show must go on" mentality in a vacuum, but there's a lot of context here, all of which is awful.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
Coren Jewel

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
The McMahon family can't just throw their hands in the air and say "welp the US government wanted us to go" when they're friends with and financially supported the POTUS and Linda is literally in the cabinet.

But I voted for the Ring Boy scandal. This tournament has made a ton of us aware of it, and it's so incredibly heinous and disgusting.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014

Baron Corbin posted:

Ludvig Borga

Second this. Had an SS tattoo and would go on to be a far right politician.

Edit: Max Landis has been accused of sexual assault by a ton of people. If you're asking about his WWE involvement, he used to be a creative consultant.

ThePariah fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Jan 19, 2019

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014

Hedgehog Pie posted:

I didn't even know he was a thing until I looked him up. Did he actually have anything else to him other than his famous dad (who has a really controversial legacy himself)?

Arguably no, but the reason he got WWE's attention is because of a youtube video/short film called "Wrestling Isn't Westling" which attempted to explain the appeal of wrestling while simultaneously recapping Triple H's career. It got some buzz in wrestling circles and WWE took enough notice to give him the creative consultant gig, but apparently they never used any of his ideas.

Other than that, he's better known for his social media activity than anything he's written. He's posted some fantasy booking ideas on twitter or reddit, usually nothing special but some people went nuts for it because he's a "famous writer." He did write recent netflix movie Bright, which was critically panned but got a ton of viewers, though I think the credit goes to it starring Will Smith.

ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
I never saw it, but I do remember him throwing a temper tantrum when Red Letter Media panned it, which lead to him appearing on one of their videos.

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ThePariah
Feb 10, 2014
Anyone got a link to the Savile thread?

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