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| Up North |
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70 | 41.92% |
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| The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel |
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46 | 27.54% |
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Ladies and Gentleman, this is your main event. In conjunction with kenny is winning AKA @epitasis AKA super no vacancy and The Monumental Podcast I am proud to announce THE NEW YORK 64  The New York 64 is a 64* disgusting promotional tactic tournament divided into two halves, one for business practices (backstage poo poo) and one for the WWE universe (storylines, angles, gimmicks, promos, etc.) The * is because there will be two play in 4 way matches for the WWE Universe 16 seeds. The tournament voting will be held on twitter, but I hope it generates actual discussion here. An esteemed panel of wrestling experts and woodsmen nominated, seeded and bracketed this tournament and we hope we have chosen the absolute worst things this company has done. I wanted to have a more open nomination process but we came up with 100+ and 64 of them were just me laying around while doing some yoga, so it would have quickly gotten out of hand. Because my schedule is absolutely insane I'm announcing it tonight along with the first bracket but voting will begin tomorrow along with the second bracket announcement, and the rest on Thursday. Super No Vacancy and I run down the entire field on the Monumental Podcast here https://www.spreaker.com/episode/16387809 https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1070172546161696768 In all seriousness there is a lot of gross poo poo in this tournament and some of it is hard to joke about, but I think this tournament will help people get a really broad view of just how lovely WWE has been historically and continues to be. For example Lars Sullivan didn't even make it on here and the WWE UK stuff barely squeaks in! Some of these will seem a little weak, but for example Brawl 4 All was an unsanctioned shoot fight tournament held between a bunch of concussed, injured wrestlers with no athletic commission providing the basics of safety. It led to numerous injuries and shortened a career or two. So while it is funny to look back on, it's nuts that a company would do that to their talent. But they did! I'll try to go through my reasoning for each entrant as the voting starts.
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THE TOURNAMENT BEGINS https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1070336539174076416 Alaois posted:can i still write-in vote for "all the poo poo the WWE did to Bad News Allen" There may be a mini tournament of things Bad News related.
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Dec 5, 2018 16:25
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Sable's treatment should be on there, Kerwin White too although I at least meant to add it for consideration but forgot!
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Dec 5, 2018 18:40
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ThePariah posted:Haven't listened to the podcast yet, but is the Jimmy Snuka cover-up on the bracket? It's less verifiable than most of these, but it would be on the level of the Owen stuff if it's true. The Snuka tribute is the cover up is not since while it's obvious Mr. Fuji took part right after it happened everything involving the actual company is impossible to verify. Likewise I left Vince's rape and sexual harassment accusations off. It's impossible to draw a line where the company begins and wrestlers/Vince end, but there were a couple of things that are too serious and too hard to verify.
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Dec 5, 2018 20:17
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Play in 2 is now up for voting. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1070717326054559750
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Dec 6, 2018 19:26
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Legit can't believe the first play in got over 500 votes and it isn't quite over yet.
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Dec 6, 2018 21:08
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Baron La Croix posted:https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1070750122563264517 I'd forgotten Molly and of the other 4 it seemed like the least bad of the three since one made a dead guy's son upset, one made a dead kid's parents upset and the other was really, really racist.
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Dec 6, 2018 22:07
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Hako posted:Because the general population even knows the "indies" exist. You pure wraassstlin folk are a minority. Forget the indies, fewer people watch wrestling now than watched before the WWF went national. More people were willing to watch territorial wrestling than anything that has aired in the US for years and years.
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Dec 6, 2018 22:15
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Hako posted:I get everyone wants to be on the right side of history, but guess what Wrestling is loving boring now and the ratings reflect that, you can have a moonsault royal rumble and its still not going to bring ratings. https://twitter.com/randygdub/status/796229362643152896
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Dec 6, 2018 23:27
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Hako posted:Way to cherry pick, I'm not saying we need more racism theres lots of things on that list that are not that. Which of the 64 entries on that list did you really enjoy? Was it the misogyny, the honoring murderers and white nationalist homophobes, which?
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Dec 7, 2018 02:15
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The full bracket for anyone who didn't want to listen to a 2 hour podcast https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1070855817287647232
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Dec 7, 2018 04:17
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I'm not sure it would have changed the tournament but our resident 2000s Rememberer failing us really did fail us.
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Dec 7, 2018 05:10
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Yeah I pretty much have to run an NIT when this is over.
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Dec 7, 2018 05:39
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TV Zombie posted:Does Val Venis seducing and bedding Yamaguchi San's wife which led to the choppy choppy your pee pee angle get an entry in the NIT? Choppy Choppy Your Pee Pee was on the bubble and I tried to fit it in a few times so it'd be a pretty high seed in the NIT I'd think, but watch the flood gates open and it'd end up as a 15 seed.
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Dec 7, 2018 13:57
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The first Round of 64 match up is open for voting! RTs hugely appreciated as I'm amused at some of the people annoyed by the tournament already. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1071097577528049664
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Dec 7, 2018 21:53
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TV Zombie posted:Are...we really able to name another 64 horrendous things that WWE has done in their history? The list we were working off of had about 110 things and even though we combined a few, we're pretty close with just what has been mentioned.
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Dec 7, 2018 23:56
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Next up: https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1071216245566046211
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Dec 8, 2018 02:46
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Went Gulf War but the Snuka stuff is pretty bad if you also include the rumors that Vince himself helped with the cover up (no hard evidence but knowing Vince...) Fuji and Muraco were present when police arrived and likely helped Snuka get off. I have no idea if Vince was involved directly but it's unlikely he gave the police a briefcase of money as that event was weeks later. But that's not how the rich and famous would influence a case like this in a small town anyway.
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Dec 8, 2018 03:08
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Your winner: https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1071461894802866177
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Dec 8, 2018 19:07
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TV Zombie posted:Rafter, do you find that a lot of things in the 64 are from a particular era like the attitude era or the Hulkamania era or whatever era we are in now? I think the majority of entries on the kayfabe bracket are from 98-2008, with a pretty even distribution of Attitude era and Ruthless Aggression or whatever you want to call it. The business stuff is a pretty even spread from the mid 80s until now.
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Dec 9, 2018 01:44
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Snuka has edged out the Gulf War and this one is now up for voting https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1071471465399312385
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Dec 9, 2018 01:48
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I forgot just how racist the terrorist angle was until I watched it again. I forgot just how evil some of the Vickie stuff was until I remembered they went all in after she gave notice. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1071581607033753602
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Dec 9, 2018 02:57
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Hogan would be very upset if he had to put Bryan over anyway.
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Dec 9, 2018 19:21
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Since I doubt it will advance and it deserves a little more attention here are some of the details of the contract clause and Bryan's situation (Plus Rey's which will come up sooner or later in the tournament.) https://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2016/09/07/legal-maneuvers-daniel-bryan-freezing-wwe-contracts/ Important points: Before being frozen Bryan asked for his release. It was indefinite until he came back as GM and Dave reported that it was being done to make sure he couldn't go anywhere else while he still had some star power.
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Dec 9, 2018 20:03
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I think realistically other than the #1 seeds in the business practices division everything else is so relatively close together that any vote can go any way. Like this one. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1071961750948470785 I legitimately thought having Brock Lesnar elbow people until they bled leading to brain injuries would be a huge favorite here, I was wrong.
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Dec 10, 2018 04:03
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I mean the Brock thing is terrible but it's the kinda of terrible other companies have done before (hi Inoki) whereas the Mexicools is the type of terrible that only the WWE can do Other companies have done super racist stables though I mean CMLL had Los Talibanes.
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Dec 10, 2018 04:10
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fatherofmustard posted:Orton's an rear end in a top hat so I didn't feel very bad for him when he got busted open. He's not the only one who was put in that position though! https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1071981561497731072
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Dec 10, 2018 05:17
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Widespread developmental abuse vs trying to cover up their negligent Wellness policy following the Benoit murders https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1072192340985606144
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Dec 10, 2018 19:25
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HHH being in charge of talent is definitely a sign the problem was not fixed.
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Dec 10, 2018 22:17
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KungFu Grip posted:the only issue i have with the bracket is the Warrior Award and Unleash Your Warrior feel like the same exact thing. Both lionizing a piece of poo poo and putting his name on things that he actually didn't care for as some sort of motivational aspect. This company does a lot of really lovely things that feel the same because they are disgusting. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1072333695800012800
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Dec 11, 2018 04:40
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The more I think about the developmental abuse the more it becomes clear the company will never change. Trainees were sexually harassed, assaulted, bullied, subject to racist and homophobic slurs and most of the trainers are still there. HHH has more power than ever. He hired the guy in charge of it and let everyone off who covered it up. In any real company all those loving trainers would be gone.
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Dec 11, 2018 16:43
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This one seems easy on the surface but they did some lovely things to Tiger Ali Singh as noted in the replies. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1072561936938778630?s=19
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Dec 11, 2018 22:49
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To me this is the hardest decision of the tournament both are so loving bad in such different ways. Booker vs HHH is more racist than you remember and the Hawk angle, I still can't believe it aired. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1072689646319136769
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Dec 12, 2018 04:09
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mkay0 posted:Rare miss on the seeding here, imo. Booker going to beat Hawk 3 to 1. That was the drat mania program for raw. Even if Hawk doesn't die it is booking a guy with substance abuse issues to do a storyline where he has substance abuse issues, tries to kill himself and then gets shoved off of the Titantron while he's threatening to kill himself. It pissed Animal off enough that he's still mad about it. Scott Hall didn't die and the Hall is a drunk angle from WCW qualify for the WCW version of this tournament.
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Dec 12, 2018 04:33
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Now with all of that said the HHH vs Booker feud is worse than it appears too because we've had Ricardo and ADR both come out and state HHH tells racist jokes backstage and breeds further racism with his permissive attitude.
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Dec 12, 2018 04:36
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With pretty much all of the seeds on the kayfabe side of the bracket I will fully admit angles where real life deaths or substance abuse issues were exploited got weighted extremely highly because so many wrestlers die in this business of substance abuse issues.
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Dec 12, 2018 04:44
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The "AIDS" panel always makes me laugh.
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Dec 12, 2018 18:03
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Fitting week to talk more about the Montreal Screwjob. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1072948127529910273
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Dec 12, 2018 23:07
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Steve Austin was getting red hot with or without McMahon. The Tyson angle didn't need Vince's involvement.
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