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70 | 41.92% |
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21 | 12.57% |
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12 | 7.19% |
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18 | 10.78% |
| The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel |
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46 | 27.54% |
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MassRafTer posted:THE TOURNAMENT BEGINS I know I'm in the minority, but I went with insulting PPV buying fans. The Owen stuff wasn't a build to anything, that just WWE being dense and/or rude to the Hart family. I barely remember the Shawn Michaels or the Piggy James stuff but they were poo poo that no one will recall unless they're digging. WWE transitioning from PPV to Network subs is a huge moment in the company's history and highlighted just how little of a gently caress WWE cares about the fanbase. "Why are you giving money to PPV providers when you can give it directly to us?" was the messaging. Its the language of financial domination. My overall vote is still for the Crown Jewel tho. Even before the Khashoggi murder it was a testament to the absolute greed of the company.
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Dec 5, 2018 18:20
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Paige's comment on Reid didn't immediately start a fist fight and Charlotte just stood there and mouthed her lines like nothing happened?
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Dec 6, 2018 18:41
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this last page is proof WWE gives people brainworms and they're loving impossible to get rid of.
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Dec 6, 2018 23:01
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Wazzu posted:Less long term awful, but so tasteless they scrubbed it from the record immediately. I'd forgive it if it immediately jumped to a brawl and Charlotte tried to put Paige's eye out but instead she just stood there and took it like a weak goof. You say poo poo about dead family members, fights happen, that's how it works.
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Dec 7, 2018 02:08
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The terrorist angle was pretty fuckin reprehensible because if I remember right, Smackdown wasn't aired live at that point so there was plenty of time to edit that out. No one gave a gently caress until public outcry. The Vickie stuff was a whole other world of lovely. Oh hey, sorry about killing your husband with our insane touring schedule and bullshit health oversight, you wanna wear a pig nose and get spanked in a bowl full of gravy?
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Dec 9, 2018 06:36
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Demott’s behavior is what I expect from some $5k and maybe you’ll get to job to a C tier indie act school. Certainly not something from a big corporate operation that’s desperately seeking its next breakout act.
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Dec 11, 2018 00:02
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MassRafTer posted:This one seems easy on the surface but they did some lovely things to Tiger Ali Singh as noted in the replies. Tiger because steroids are cool.
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Dec 11, 2018 23:41
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MassRafTer posted:To me this is the hardest decision of the tournament both are so loving bad in such different ways. Booker vs HHH is more racist than you remember and the Hawk angle, I still can't believe it aired. I went with racism because they've redone the "fall off the titantron" angle several times. Even WWE doesn't want you to remember just how racist it got against Booker T. That said, getting a dude with legit substance abuse problems to do a suicide angle including a stunt fall was pretty horrendous, even by Russo's metric(pretty sure that was a Russo jam, correct me if I'm wrong)
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Dec 12, 2018 16:03
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HHH+HH=HHHHH I'm sure you can get 14 or 88 out of that somehow.
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Dec 12, 2018 20:10
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I will always go with any iteration of WWE's wellness policy as being absolutely the worst thing. Its never about talent safety when its enforced, its about company liability, which is only because when some dude dies, the news goes "former WWE wrestler, yadda yadda, probably steroids but we didn't bother waiting for a medical record." I don't know how many times I had to politely correct people when they talked about Benoit being a steroids thing. It wasn't a steroids thing. Steroids don't make you take a whole afternoon murder vacation. It was decades of splattering his brainpan with absolutely no medical evaluation afterwards. No one stopped to think that maybe getting your head smashed in nightly might have long term consequences. its even worse now when wrestlers get cut and they send the doctor in the middle of the match. Like what the gently caress is even the point? It just makes people go "oh look WWE is safe, they have doctors" And other than the impact screening(which they clearly don't adhere to) the Wellness violations are punitive. Rather than humiliating angles, you get fined and miss paydays because you didn't have your doctor's info in order(you gotta pay for those too, good luck NXT injuries!). Notice none of the top acts get popped despite suddenly going from jacked to flat in a week's timespan. Way bigger and scummier than Vince, Bret and Shawn trying to work out an angle that worked for everyone.
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Dec 13, 2018 03:11
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I feel like 90s WWF did Domestic Violence Enthusiast angle more than once. Either way, still terrible but the 90s were all about being as terrible human beings as possible.
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Dec 14, 2018 00:18
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yeah once I could handwave that it was a paid deal so not really their problem to untangle KSA's mess but the fact they didn't welch on the deal for the return show(and have more planned) amidst growing international outrage over Yeman and the Khashoggi killing is a new level of tone deaf for WWE. They'd have to excise everyone but the wrestlers to ever get me to watch a WWE product ever again. I won't even steal the poo poo now.
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Dec 14, 2018 03:01
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Big Dave posted:is doing business with saudi arabia, a state whose crimes are enabled by the usa, really worse than doing business with the united states, itself a murderous genocidal regime? with going all Debate and Discussion or whatever, yeah. It really is. MBS is gonna get all hopped up on the wrestling and then slap an Iranian religious figure.
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Dec 14, 2018 21:01
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covering up for pedophilia because selling out the Garden is more important than kids' safety says a lot about WWE corporate culture.
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Dec 17, 2018 00:35
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MassRafTer posted:Someone almost dying vs even more shady practices with letting talent get on steroids! This is a tough one. I really feel that the laughable state of WWE's wellness program really led to Tyson's injury more than anything. They aren't testing wrestlers to make sure they're physically capable of taking impacts.
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Dec 17, 2018 20:41
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I liked Goldust but admittedly by the time I started watching WWF again, they'd already paired him with Marlena and the gay panic stuff had already subsided. The Katie Vick thing was just atrocious to me. They ran out this whole contrived angle and the payoff was HHH dry humping a mannequin in a casket. So Kane has to be mad at HHH over a made up dead girlfriend and fight him for the honor of his made up dead girlfriend who's corpse wasn't actually molested. Like Kane needs any loving motivation to murk someone. He's loving Kane, an avatar of destruction so powerful he makes the ring explode. I think HHH won that one too. So dumb. I ended up voting Katie Vick as a kneejerk reaction but afterwards of the two, Goldust was probably the worst. Homophobia gets people killed. Necrophilia jokes are in bad taste but to my knowledge, no one's died over them.
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Dec 18, 2018 19:16
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Move to Canada, they're already at a diplomatic impasse with Saudi Arabia.
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Dec 18, 2018 22:37
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STAC Goat posted:Well at least the Khashoggi stuff has led a number of US politicians to at least pay lip service to opposing Saudi Arabia (which speaks to the case for why Crown Jewel was so bad because WWE went the opposite route). This may of course be fleeting and inadequate but the reality of politics is the way to bring about change is to engage, vote, and hopefully push things in the direction you want. While the reality of consumerism is the way to bring about change is to disengage, boycott, and hopefully cost them money. The real takeaway is that we need more people voting with their wallets. The stuff listed in this tournament is horrific and a lot of it has gone unanswered. It falls under things that WWE would hope you'd forget about please watch Finn Balor take off his shirt real slowly. Over the last 20 or so years, WWE has managed to skate any real accountability by mostly popping ratings and hoping people will forget about their last PR blunder. Something will have to give the more and more people stumble onto this stuff.
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Dec 18, 2018 23:00
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"we stopped making fun of JR's palsy so we can strip mine profit from cancer-ridden kids" gives the slight advantage to Unleash Your Warrior. JR's a fuckin mess. Making fun of any of the poo poo that's wrong with him is really punching down.
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Dec 19, 2018 18:48
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Rey getting hosed over was so bad. Combined with Jericho's "yeah sure, do whatever kid" agreement with WWE, its probably a bit racist too. Supporting Trump is up there with washing the blood off the Saudi's hands.
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Dec 19, 2018 21:19
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I voted Rey because his arm fell off but the office was all like "no you gotta do 50 more shows" and everytime he came back his arm fell off again so I could Rey being like "gently caress this, my arm keeps falling off let me go" and then office continues demanding he does dates despite the fact he doesn't want to work there. That is aggressively hosed up and is arguably contract slavery. He's real dumb for going back too. coconono fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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Dec 20, 2018 01:28
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Liquid Communism posted:I'm starting to feel like the only way to get out of a wwe contract these days is to go to every show you're scheduled and spend all your time organizing the boys to form a union. or get accused of sexual assault without clearing it with the office first
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Dec 20, 2018 01:35
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I went with Filming Owen's Funeral on the narrow nod they brought all that production equipment and didn't get permission from the family.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:12
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:WWE tampering generally means a worker agreeing to a pay raise. It's the least offensive of the contract entries in the tournament. WWE is ignoring other company's contract stips about being able to make competing offers. Its usually "this is the offer, if you tell anyone about it, its null and void" so it actually robs a worker of being able to bargain from a position of strength.
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Dec 20, 2018 21:42
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The Liz's death thing made me hate Lex Luger for loving years until I finally actually sat down and considered that maybe WWE shouldn't push narratives that aren't even consistent at all with actual police investigations. HLA thing was the sort of juvenile puerility that WWE's pre-PG era specialized in but I totally forgot 3 Minute Warning legit injured the women.
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Dec 21, 2018 18:42
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The problem has always been that WWE has a global reach that no other company can match. Its the place to go to if you have a lot of wrestling bucket list items to tick off.
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Dec 22, 2018 02:47
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Kurt still said it.
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Dec 22, 2018 16:25
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the IC status thing wouldn't be so bad if there was a union in play that guaranteed protections for wrestlers but I still fail to see how that would play out fairly and equally. Chyna getting erased is a real shame. I followed her post-WWE career pretty closely and it was a lot of ups and downs. NJPW was a bust, Porn was a terrible fit. She had a lot of issues she was working through real time. But her vlogs were absolutely amazing. It was 5-15 minutes of pure honesty and realness. She had good days, and she had bad days. None of it was filtered, you saw it all. Her last vid was her puttering around her house, showing off little bits of how she was making her day pass. Its a kind of authentic you don't get with a lot wrestlers.
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Dec 23, 2018 02:46
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OTE continuing is hosed up. Super hosed up. Owen Hart fuckin died. No way I'd be interested in enjoying live wrestling knowing that.
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Dec 23, 2018 03:15
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you've got wrestlers being forced to wrestle in a ring a dude just died in vs wrestlers being forced to shoot fight for money and perks? stepstool layup if you ask me.
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Dec 23, 2018 18:44
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WWF absolutely and comprehensively covered for Snuka's murdering Nancy Argentino. Vince McMahon himself was onsite when the police came to interview Snuka. The autopsy report confirming it was a homicide was sealed for unknown reasons. WWE honoring Snuka is a victory lap for them beating the murder charge. The Virgil thing is disgusting but Virgil is a pretty fuckin carnie himself so its whatever.
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Dec 25, 2018 05:34
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MassRafTer posted:Vince didn't meet with the police for weeks after the murder. The cover up was probably mostly done by Muraco and Fuji who were locker room fixers and wouldn't need any instruction to help cover for Snuka.They were the ones who were actually there. The timeline I saw had Vince being present during the police interview of Snuka(which happened a few weeks afterwards). AFAIK, they didn't take a statement from Snuka at the time of discovering the body. Again, the whole thing is suspect as gently caress.
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Dec 25, 2018 07:43
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Steroids are cool and the WWE should be doing everything in their power to keep people on steroids but not dying. The fact WWE doesn't do this is stupid. Rehiring Hogan despite everyone knows he said a bunch of racist poo poo on A SEX TAPE should send Mattel or Nabisco or whoever their current sugartits sponsor into apoplectics.
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Dec 26, 2018 02:54
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mkay0 posted:The Death of Owen Hart is another entry. I’m voting on these as written. I doubt the fans would have rioted. It was the 90s which really encouraged awful behavior so I could be wrong.
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Dec 26, 2018 19:01
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Did they actually air the Kanyon segment or was that something that was pitched that never happened? A lot of the WWF era Kanyon stuff feels like hearsay.
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Dec 26, 2018 19:38
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bartok posted:I posted it before but here it is again to remind you how loving awful it is. woooooooof
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Dec 26, 2018 21:05
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yeah Kanyon had some problems and a lot were exacerbated by getting hit over the head and poo poo.
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Dec 26, 2018 21:55
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I remember I used to be impressed by Undertaker's integrity but seeing him involved in that segment just reminds me he's another fuckin bully that got a pass because he was "cool"
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Dec 26, 2018 22:08
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Elizabeth is a near religious figure for many wrestling fans.
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Dec 27, 2018 03:34
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Billy Robinson is a loving psychopath that other contemporary psychopaths thought was a terrible person. And Crown Jewel was such a terrible idea. GRR you could kind of "ok they got paid and they're getting the gently caress out because this is a dumb look and people are cancelling the network in disgust" but Crown Jewel was at the height of Saudi Arabia being on the international poo poo list and WWE's only defense is "well the saudi's paid us so we gotta go"
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Dec 27, 2018 20:18
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