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Best Not WWE Name
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Up North 70 41.92%
New York 21 12.57%
Titan 12 7.19%
Stamford 18 10.78%
The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel 46 27.54%
Total: 167 votes
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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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DLC Inc posted:

looking forward to HLA, Kerwin White, the Kurt Angle "bestiality" poo poo, and Katie Vick being frontrunners on this.

Wasn't that TNA?

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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Huh. I stand corrected. Somehow I missed this and didn't hear about it until years later. I actually like that promo outside of that line.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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SatoshiMiwa posted:

As bad as Crown Jewel is the Owen Hart stuff is still the single worst thing the company has done

Part of me can't shake that the interview with Brian Pillman's wife as the absolute worst thing they've ever done. Without condoning either, I can still at least understand the Owen and Crown Jewel stuff on some level. The Pillman interview just horrifies me.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Jerusalem posted:

From memory, Mickie did beat LayCool and put them in their place... but in a symptom of an ongoing issue that would only get worse, the feud then bizarre just picked up against like 2 weeks later for no real reason and LayCool basically came out on top that time.

It was really, really weird and gross. I remember defending it at the time it first started because LayCool were clearly meant to be idiots and the notion that Mickie James was fat was ludicrous, but by the time they were done it was one of those,"THE END! NO MORAL!" situations.

Not sure I dig this gender-flipped reboot of Booker T vs. Triple H.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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TheKingslayer posted:

Remember when Vince had Bischoff rape his wife in kayfabe? Vince really had his finger on the pulse ya know?

What about that time when Vince was going to be forced to face the Undertaker in a Buried Alive match and he went on this loving insane promo where he ordered Paul Heyman to 1) have the Undertaker's children kidnapped, 2) have terrorists blow up the Undertaker's house and 3) have a biker gang rape the Undertaker's wife while Undertaker is forced to watch.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Wazzu posted:

I do not remember Bischoff raping Linda, nor this particular insane promo. What the gently caress even is Vince?

.....I'm disgusted yet curious enough to want links.

TheKingslayer posted:

Ok so where can I watch this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqoaneOlRR0

The part in question is about 2:40 in.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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I'm surprised X-Pac in blackface isn't on the list. That one always rubbed me the wrong way because one of the WWE Countdown shows talked up that segment and made sure to take a second to talk up how hilarious X-Pac's impression of Mark Henry was.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Charles Gnarwin posted:

drat, my brain must be trying to protect me. It had the turn sooner with them just being partners who cared about each other and people cheering for that but I guess that doesn't make sense considering the company and fan base.

I also recall them getting over as comedy faces before the wedding thing. Fans got behind it because they were just blatantly aping the Ambiguously Gay Duo from SNL, which was sort of popular at the time.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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I remember hearing that the original plan was for Booker to win, but then it was apparent that they were able to sign Goldberg and Triple H didn't want to lose the title to Booker so he could win it back and drop it to Goldberg. Then they got all "No, this angle isn't racist!" because they knew there was no happy ending and wanted to distance themselves from it.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Voting in this tournament, I put myself in a devil's advocate mindset where I mix trying to see where they're coming from and optimism to root out which choice I feel is worse. For instance, with Hawk, I can jump through the mental hoops that Vince Russo had good intentions and was too incompetent and bad at reading the room to make it work. He saw a popular-yet-obsolete tag team flailing and decided to give them a shot in the arm in the same style that was causing the company so much success. It crashed and burned, but at least they had the decency to end the storyline soon after, right?

Reid Flair was at least meant to garner sympathy for a face and was an ill-conceived attempt to get heat on a feud. It was horrid and shouldn't have happened, but at least I can see why they did it.

With the Melanie Pillman thing, I don't even know. It's uncomfortable and gross and it exists for absolutely no reason. I'm likely to vote that over anything it's up against because I can't even try to see that segment through Vince's eyes. What the gently caress.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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I always wished they had him reprise the Mortis gimmick and be the Hurricane's arch nemesis.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Suplex Liberace posted:

Please tell me that was Black Machismo Jay Lethal

It was. The gag was that he was admitting that the Mega Powers exploding wasn't Hogan's fault.

Anyway, I voted Pillman. The Elizabeth stuff is horrible, but it still boils down to being petty to your perceived enemies. The Melanie Pillman interview is just inexplicable and gross and they were on her side.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Rey at least got to win the title at WrestleMania against the guy who was out of line.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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fatherofmustard posted:

They did Goldberg/Rock at Backlash.

Where Rock snorted ALL OF THE COCAINE.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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ChrisBTY posted:

Was Rock gone by Summerslam?

Rock was done by Backlash. Part of his WrestleMania win was the writing on the wall that "beating Steve Austin at WrestleMania" was the only thing left for the Rock. Afterwards, he had no reason to stick around and he just put Goldberg over before going back to Hollywood. He didn't appear again until next WrestleMania's build and after WMXX, he didn't wrestle for another eight years.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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ChrisBTY posted:

Well at least there's that.
I guess.

Though to circle it back to Triple H being a dick, Rock spent his final months putting over Booker T, the Hurricane and Goldberg and, well, see what Triple H did with them.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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D.N. Nation posted:

So Vince/WWE hates Warrior and either wholesale ignores him or makes the point to trash him, then (???), then he gets inducted into the HOF, then dies, now he's a hero for us all.

What exactly happened in the (???) part? I've never gotten that. It's not like there was any clamoring for the company to reignite his legacy at the time.

I think it was the WWE 2K game appearance. 2K Games decided on Warrior being the pre-order DLC and probably dealt with him without using WWE as a middleman (they have a history of doing things against WWE's wishes. See also: "You don't want Punk! You want Sheamus!"). Warrior did business with them and even appeared in an ad for the game. After the fact, Triple H got in touch with him and offered him the marquee spot in that year's HOF induction.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Jerusalem posted:

Wasn’t it a similar deal with Goldberg where they did that video and the Suplex City tease without WWE having a clue?

With Goldberg, Warrior and Sting, it's interesting how the WWE 2K pre-order DLC spot ends up shaping WWE at times.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Somewhat relevant to this thread, Wrestlecrap is doing their annual Gooker of the Year Award vote. Despite having 10 nominees (all WWE this year), Crown Jewel has over half of the votes so far.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Even if Owen's death was their fault, the idea of keeping the show going is at least somewhat excusable as a panicked decision where hindsight is 20/20. The Saudi deal was something they decided on and agreed to with a clear head.

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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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MassRafTer posted:

When they cleared their heads they decided to keep trying to profit off Owen's death as much as they could so why give them the benefit of the doubt?

Oh, they were gross about it, but they could have gone farther.

But in the end, the OTE situation was something where I can feel sympathy for what they did, even if it isn't deserved in the end, and at this point in the tournament, that's all you need. We're just coming off a poll where my train of thought was "Okay, yes, they celebrated a murderer's legacy, BUT!"

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