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selec posted:Let me answer a question with a question: if Trump has 90% approval ratings within his party, why is every conservative columnist for the NYT a Never Trumper? Why do they give that much real estate to people who represent such a small, incoherent and insignificant minority? The NYTimes makes sense when you realize it's a paper thats deeply rooted in a certain upper-class New York Jewish perspective and milieu and that, while it has risen to national/world prominence as a result of the rise of New York as a global capital, it has never really outgrown that. You aren't going to get, and you shouldn't expect, a full even-handed coverage of the political spectrum from them.
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selec posted:Buddy this isn’t a Jewish thing so stop making it weird. It’s a navel-gazing coastal elite thing, and a finance capitalism thing. That's a complete dodge and you won't get an answer as to why the NYTimes behaves as it does if you're going to pretend that the NYTimes is some weird platonic ideal of journalism unrooted from its own history and the ethnic/religious identity of the people work there To use the list of "Bari Weiss, Bret Stephens, David Brooks AND Ross Douthat" that someone else drew up, 3 out of 4 were raised in New York and Jewish. If you want to answer the question of "Why Does The NY Times Hire So Many Of A Particular Kind Of Conservatives" you cannot honestly avoid this. When the NYTimes goes looking for a conservative writer, they're doing it at neighborhood dinner parties SickZip fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Dec 18, 2018 |
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Dear God at how hard you guys are working to pretend that ethnic/in-group favoritism isn't a basic and universal bit of cognitive bias and prejudice. Spending thousands of words on justification and establishment of Proper Leftist Credentials and Dogma before your willing to even indirectly address the matter is insane. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Lightning Knight posted:The problem is not that there isn't a strong cultural bias towards the rich and powerful or that international capitalist institutions have an immense amount of control over society and the economy, it's that "international finance and the coastal elite" is literally the language of the right in 2018 and you can't escape that. You also can't assume that everyone in this thread is leftist when SickZip just came in with anti-Semitic dogwhistling and that dogwhistle has to be addressed. I'm not even going to address the weird ritual hygiene about arguments preceding it because it's psychotic beyond understanding but I'm extremely confused at how I'm dogwhistling? Did your powerful mod mind decipher my reference to "upperclass New York Jewish perspective" and determine that it was coded reference to Jews? quote:Edit: in this vein it's worth noting that the most influential voice on the "respectable right" isn't any of these columnists who are supposedly bad because they're Jewish, it's Jordan "I'm hella Christian" Peterson. One might say that Jordan Peterson would be a bad example of the particular kind of "respectable right" conservative hired by the NYTimes as he is not a writer who works for the NYTimes but I'll roll with it. So lets look at how the NYTimes talks about Jordan Peterson. Here's literally the first 4 NYTimes articles I found that talk about him: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html "Jordan Peterson, Custodian of the Patriarchy" - Negative https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/opinion/trump-jordan-peterson-charlatans.html "Why We Are So Vulnerable to Charlatans Like Trump" - Very Negative https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/opinion/free-speech-just-access.html "The Ignorant Do Not Have a Right to an Audience" - Very Negative https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/opinion/jordan-peterson-moment.html "The Jordan Peterson Moment" - Positive Yeah, definitely someone the NYTime is favorable towards.
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