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ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

awesmoe posted:

if you accept that the lies were believable to a scoop-hungry zealot, then it's a massive journalistic failure for miller to trust those particular sources, and a massive editorial failure in giving her the trust to write the story without more vetting. But in this case, they printed it because they thought it was news, even if they were disastrously wrong.

Either way it was an institutional fuckup that the paper's credibility will never recover from (and rightly so).

This is an important point to grasp because mainstream sources like TV are often the way people try to check what they see online and if all the ducks are in a row like they were pre-Iraq then it is difficult for anyone to have an unbiased picture of events.

It wasn't as if the lies weren't being challenged at the time, but a narrative of "lets do it anyway" led from the top and was largely accepted by mainstream media, who merely reported the challenges and did not investigate them. It was particularly obvious in Australia where despite massive citizen protests the executive and mainstream media were in lockstep.

Generally, mass media as a subject is sufficiently complex that having a context to understand its drives is impossible without assistance. I'm sure for many Jay Rosen's site has been a valuable tool.

Election coverage is always a great opportunity to watch how the media deals with narrative. In this sense, narrative is a pre-election strategy to lay down the groundwork for messages to be reinforced in the proper campaign. These days, if not actively supporting the narrative, mainstream media rarely challenge it.

Recently we saw a narrative failure in a law and order campaign in the Victorian state election, which Murdoch media had been practically selling for two years previous and completely failed because it was regularly undermined by controversy around the party and irrelevance of the narrative to what concerned the target audience most. Rosen's eternal present is useful here, as mainstream media moves on to stories of party dysfunction and only columnists continue to rant about African gangs.

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ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

There's a helpful youtube guide to parasocial relationships here which made a few things I had been thinking about in general about internet groups and relationships click.

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