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The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*

Kalli posted:

This made me wonder, so:

Each team's record vs currently winning teams:

3-1 Bears, Saints
5-2 Patriots, Rams
4-2 Chargers
3-2 Colts
3-3 Texans, Chiefs
2-2 Panthers
3-4 Dolphins, Titans
2-3 Giants, Steelers, Ravens
3-5 Broncos
2-4 Seahawks
2-5 Bengals, Eagles
2-6 Bills
2-7 Jaguars
1-5-1 Browns, Packers
1-4 Cowboys, Buccaneers, Washington
1-5 Jets, 49ers
1-6 Lions
1-7 Raiders
0-6 Cardinals
0-5 Falcons, Vikings

Worth noting that 1 of each of the Ravens/Steelers wins come against one another.

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Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

Fat Jesus posted:

Jared Goff is slightly better than Mark Sanchez

goff is a bigger fraud

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

The Puppy Bowl posted:

The Browns are absolutely not above average.

They've won 4 of their last 5 dude. That's above average.


Horrible idea to put any money on that game either way. It had all the makings of a trap game and after last week I'm not surprised at all that the Eagles pulled it off.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Play posted:

They've won 4 of their last 5 dude. That's above average.

not when you look at who they beat. three teams in freefall and the Broncos isn't an impressive resume. I'd say they're solidly average though

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Play posted:

They've won 4 of their last 5 dude. That's above average.


The season is longer than 5 games

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

a neat cape posted:

The season is longer than 5 games

Actually there are 16 seasons that get combined into one mega season each year.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Grittybeard posted:

It was week one, but Bucs over Saints looks crazy now too.

The saints have lost their home opener something stupid like 7 times in the last 8 years.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!
Heh...

https://twitter.com/SageRosenfels18/status/1074508305941360640

e: also heh

https://twitter.com/CobosQue/status/1074519575578984449

cpranger
Nov 6, 2009

I want you to take out Big Bird's knees.

Barudak posted:

The saints have lost their home opener something stupid like 7 times in the last 8 years.

According to several reporters, it's a common conception in NFL management that the first 2 to 3 games are extended preseason since the changes in how often teams can practice in the off-season and the types of practices they can undertake.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

I can't believe the Rosencopter happened ten years ago.

Darth Brooks
Jan 15, 2005

I do not wear this mask to protect me. I wear it to protect you from me.

In the NFL 10-6 is the average (expectation).

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

a neat cape posted:

The season is longer than 5 games

When we're talking about the present, a team that won 4 of their last 5 is more of a challenge to beat than a team that's 8-6 but lost their last four games. If you really want to argue with me on this, which would be dumb, please tell me 16 teams or more that are better than the Browns right now. You can't do it, meaning they're above average

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT

Barudak posted:

The saints have lost their home opener something stupid like 7 times in the last 8 years.

Weren't we on a 0-2 streak for a few years that was finally broken this year?

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I can't believe the Rosencopter happened ten years ago.

I went to Iowa State at the same time as Sage, so I feel real old now.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Play posted:

When we're talking about the present, a team that won 4 of their last 5 is more of a challenge to beat than a team that's 8-6 but lost their last four games. If you really want to argue with me on this, which would be dumb, please tell me 16 teams or more that are better than the Browns right now. You can't do it, meaning they're above average

Kansas City
New England
Houston
Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Los Angeles
Tennessee
Miami
Indianapolis
New Orleans
Chicago
The other Los Angeles
Dallas
Philadelphia
Seattle
Minnesota

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

MazelTovCocktail posted:

http://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1074521849273479169?s=21

Like I have nothing wrong with sports betting, but :lol: it produces some hilarity.

Which makes me think I need an SAS Sports Betting thread....not for advice (well at least not from me) or anything just hilarious outcomes.

There was one that was moderately active two years ago until like week 8 when everybody was losing money and stopped, lol. I'll look for a link back to that.

I played around on an overseas sportsbook and ended up effectively breaking even after fees (up like $20 after doing it on and off for about a year and a half), but I would have ended up way ahead if I never touched football.

This Steelers/Dolphins game was one of my biggest losses along with a game prop bet on Jusuf Nurkic in a regular season game vs. the Pelicans that looked too good to be true, the absurdly fixed first boxing match between GGG/Canelo, and the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Biggest wins were Daniel Cormier > Stipe Miocic, KU > Texas Tech in their second matchup last year (underdogs even with Keenan Evans injured), and the absolute highlight was hitting a $10 +1800 prop bet on the royal wedding (whether Gina Torres from Suits would attend).

E: Here's that (archived) thread

Power of Pecota fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Dec 18, 2018

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Power of Pecota posted:

There was one that was moderately active two years ago until like week 8 when everybody was losing money and stopped, lol. I'll look for a link back to that.

I played around on an overseas sportsbook and ended up effectively breaking even after fees (up like $20 after doing it on and off for about a year and a half), but I would have ended up way ahead if I never touched football.

This Steelers/Dolphins game was one of my biggest losses along with a game prop bet on Jusuf Nurkic in a regular season game vs. the Pelicans that looked too good to be true, the absurdly fixed first boxing match between GGG/Canelo, and the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Biggest wins were Daniel Cormier > Stipe Miocic, KU > Texas Tech in their second matchup last year (underdogs even with Keenan Evans injured), and the absolute highlight was hitting a $10 +1800 prop bet on the royal wedding (whether Gina Torres from Suits would attend).

E: Here's that (archived) thread

...that sounds like the journey of a degenerate gambler.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

a neat cape posted:

Kansas City
New England
Houston
Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Los Angeles
Tennessee
Miami
Indianapolis
New Orleans
Chicago
The other Los Angeles
Dallas
Philadelphia
Seattle
Minnesota

lol @ Miami, Tennessee and Minnesota. Vikings are the only ones who come close out of those three. Also the Browns beat the Ravens in their one meeting this year, so take them off the list too. QED

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Zwabu posted:

...that sounds like the journey of a degenerate gambler.

Eh, it's not like I can't control it or anything, since I cashed out in July I haven't gambled on anything. (I'd go Saints -6 tonight if I were though~)

I can totally see how people can absolutely destroy themselves if they get really into it though.

Sour Diesel
Jan 30, 2010

Play posted:

lol @ Miami, Tennessee and Minnesota. Vikings are the only ones who come close out of those three. Also the Browns beat the Ravens in their one meeting this year, so take them off the list too. QED

Teams drop stupid games sometimes, it happens. Especially against teams in their division. The Saints lost to Tampa week 1 but no one is saying Tampa is the better team.

Also Miami Tennessee and Minnesota have been in playoff contention late in the season. Like actual playoff contention, and not needing multiple miracle scenarios to play out.

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream

Play posted:

When we're talking about the present, a team that won 4 of their last 5 is more of a challenge to beat than a team that's 8-6 but lost their last four games. If you really want to argue with me on this, which would be dumb, please tell me 16 teams or more that are better than the Browns right now. You can't do it, meaning they're above average

Kansas City
New England
Houston
Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Los Angeles
Tennessee
Miami
Indianapolis
New Orleans
Chicago
The other Los Angeles
Dallas
Philadelphia
Seattle
Minnesota

Edit: looks like I was beaten by somebody else who is correct

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
I feel like the Cleveland Browns after firing Hue Jackson would have been legitimate division contenders from the word go if that had happened in like the preseason or something. The man loving sucks.

BrownThunder
Oct 26, 2005

EXTEND BEN!
Forever and ever and ever

Play posted:

lol @ Miami, Tennessee and Minnesota. Vikings are the only ones who come close out of those three. Also the Browns beat the Ravens in their one meeting this year, so take them off the list too. QED

It's brave of you to make clear you haven't been watching the games and you're speaking from a place of deep ignorance.

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

Play posted:

lol @ Miami, Tennessee and Minnesota. Vikings are the only ones who come close out of those three. Also the Browns beat the Ravens in their one meeting this year, so take them off the list too. QED



BrownThunder posted:

It's brave of you to make clear you haven't been watching the games and you're speaking from a place of deep ignorance.

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
Seriously shut up Play. :v:

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream
Ohio Resident is Actually a Moron and Thinks Browns Are Above Average - an onion headline but also that real poster, lol

Dubious
Mar 7, 2006

The Heroes the Vikings Deserve
Lipstick Apathy

BrownThunder posted:

It's brave of you to make clear you haven't been watching the games and you're speaking from a place of deep ignorance.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Wrong thread!

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Play posted:

When we're talking about the present, a team that won 4 of their last 5 is more of a challenge to beat than a team that's 8-6 but lost their last four games. If you really want to argue with me on this, which would be dumb, please tell me 16 teams or more that are better than the Browns right now. You can't do it, meaning they're above average

Well there are 12 teams in the SEC...

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Sour Diesel posted:

Teams drop stupid games sometimes, it happens. Especially against teams in their division. The Saints lost to Tampa week 1 but no one is saying Tampa is the better team.

Except Metapod, with his "if you lose to a team, you are objectively worse than them, there can be no mitigating circumstances" napalm take

No Irish Need Imply
Nov 30, 2008

Strobe posted:

I feel like the Cleveland Browns after firing Hue Jackson would have been legitimate division contenders from the word go if that had happened in like the preseason or something. The man loving sucks.
Please don't talk poo poo about next year's Bengals head coach.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Man the Saints sure could use Week 17 off.

Maybe Ted Ginn, Terron Armstead and Max Unger will be back by the playoffs.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







cam newton is dead, gay, and bad.

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

It appears there are no good teams in the NFC.

Maybe the Bears

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

sponges posted:

It appears there are no good teams in the NFC.

Maybe the Bears

All teams are bad.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

sponges posted:

It appears there are no good teams in the NFC.

Maybe the Bears

you mean the Macks?

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
I'm glad for the eventual Brees v Rivers superbowl

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Still calling it for Mahomes.

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

Docjowles posted:

Except Metapod, with his "if you lose to a team, you are objectively worse than them, there can be no mitigating circumstances" napalm take

I don't understand why losing means you are worse than who won is such a flaming take.

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Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

a neat cape posted:

I'm glad for the eventual Brees Mack v Rivers superbowl

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