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Venom one is surprisingly fun but I do not understand the decision making behind 2 that lead to venom and carnage to only meet in the final scene.
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Both Venom movies are incredibly gay, and it’s great. The SV movies could use that energy.
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a pg 13 carnage movie sucks about as much as the worst wig in the world on woody (which is only funny for so long) also a disconnected from spidey-centric venom franchise is certainly a choice..i understand the licensing issues and blah blah blah but even the connecting things between those and the mcu they tossed in felt like a dashed-out afterthought. it's fine as a buddy comedy series and all, but i'd prefer something a little more interesting that doesn't get the sonyverse treatment..i'd argue the only decent spidey sony thing is the spiderverse animation stuff. I've actually rewatched those, venom 1&2 not so much
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Oct 4, 2023 20:21
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CelticPredator posted:It’s good, sorry you might be the only person i've seen to say that about venom 2: let there be carnage, but i like your moxy if they do a venom 3 you'll be my barometer there is no way in hell i'm watching the kraven movie though, morbius was enough for me e: or madam web or whatever other supporting cast movies they don't want to lose rights to they continue to make zer0spunk fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Oct 4, 2023 |
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zer0spunk posted:you might be the only person i've seen to say that about venom 2: let there be carnage, but i like your moxy If we can somehow trick Sony into doing a 2nd theatre run for Kraven it’ll all be worth it
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Oct 4, 2023 20:34
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CharlestonJew posted:If we can somehow trick Sony into doing a 2nd theatre run for Kraven it’ll all be worth it honestly that actually kind of makes it worth it, and it also gave us the story about jared leto going full daniel day lewis method acting by pretending to be disabled between takes, to the point where they had to convince him to let them wheelchair him around as a compromise because they were wasting so much time waiting on him and you know what, you can really feel the difference in his performance in morb--
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Oct 4, 2023 20:39
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Venom 2 channeled the lobster scene from venom 1 into the whole movie. I don’t like or read the comics so I just know carnage through nerd osmosis so it being like or not like the comics means nothing to me lol
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Oct 4, 2023 20:57
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he's just a version of spider-man without the "hero" ethics or morals, and the debut sells a massive amount of copies..so marvel then spins him into this reluctant anti-hero with his own series called "Lethal Protector" which is basically the basis for these sony movies i think there's some division between people who like the character as an rear end in a top hat villain (myself included) and people that like the antihero thing..but you know what, as much as i think marvel and disney would have done something better with venom as he was originally written..we'd then have a PG carnage which is somehow even worse then the sony take so..nevermind.
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Oct 4, 2023 21:03
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I liked the idea of Carnage in the movie that he was out of sync because Cassidy genuinely cared about his love interest while Carnage only saw her as a threat. It made Cassidy more interesting that he had at least one thing that kind of anchored him (although I get that people might not like it due to it reducing her to the whole Morality Pet thing). I also liked the joke where they're like "Hmmm, we have a villain that's weak to sound and a girl with sonic powers...." (slams her into the bell, resolving the conflict in the stupidest possible way) (ending spoilers)
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CharlestonJew posted:If we can somehow trick Sony into doing a 2nd theatre run for Kraven it’ll all be worth it I had to google this because I couldn't remember if it was still to be released, or if I had seen it and forgotten because I'm expecting Kraven to be extremely bland and forgettable
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It doesn't have Leto so it's going to be better, this doesn't however mean it's going to be good.
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[watching venom cooking breakfast for his husband Tom Hardy] actually, this is very bad and everyone should be ashamed for enjoying this
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Something I like is that it kind of makes sense for Venom to need to eat brains for the neurotransmitters (as that's the reason he gives for it). Look at what he is. He's a collection of independent cells that communicate with one another in order to process information, like neurons. A Symbiote is just a giant brain, and the problem with that is there is no physical form to attach a gland to so he can't make his own neurotransmitters. Without eating brains (or finding other ways of obtaining simiilar chemicals) his cells can't communicate as effectively with one another as they should do and he cannot survive like that. It's silly, but there is a fantasy type of logic to it.
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BioEnchanted posted:Something I like is that it kind of makes sense for Venom to need to eat brains for the neurotransmitters (as that's the reason he gives for it). Look at what he is. He's a collection of independent cells that communicate with one another in order to process information, like neurons. A Symbiote is just a giant brain, and the problem with that is there is no physical form to attach a gland to so he can't make his own neurotransmitters. Without eating brains (or finding other ways of obtaining simiilar chemicals) his cells can't communicate as effectively with one another as they should do and he cannot survive like that. It's silly, but there is a fantasy type of logic to it. the lore they created for the symbiotes in the comics is especially dumb, it could have just stayed a parasite kinda thing..i really hope that never ends up on screen down the line
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LaserPrinter69 posted:I had to google this because I couldn't remember if it was still to be released, or if I had seen it and forgotten because I'm expecting Kraven to be extremely bland and forgettable Wow, same. I fully expect it to sink without trace, and wasn’t entirely sure this hadn’t already happened.
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BioEnchanted posted:Something I like is that it kind of makes sense for Venom to need to eat brains for the neurotransmitters (as that's the reason he gives for it). Look at what he is. He's a collection of independent cells that communicate with one another in order to process information, like neurons. A Symbiote is just a giant brain, and the problem with that is there is no physical form to attach a gland to so he can't make his own neurotransmitters. Without eating brains (or finding other ways of obtaining simiilar chemicals) his cells can't communicate as effectively with one another as they should do and he cannot survive like that. It's silly, but there is a fantasy type of logic to it. Want to see Venom to face off against Mindflayers invading Earth.
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MariusLecter posted:Want to see Venom to face off against Mindflayers invading Earth. So, a Marvel / D&D / Stranger Things crossover?
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Oct 5, 2023 17:01
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I got so loving pissed off when the big moment in the Kraven trailer was him putting on the lion vest.
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mycot posted:I got so loving pissed off when the big moment in the Kraven trailer was him putting on the lion vest. Hopefully the moral of the movie is that anyone can wear the vest.
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Wittgen posted:Hopefully the moral of the movie is that anyone can wear the vest. Seeeeeeee my vest, see my vest...
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Spider-verse 2-Movie Collector's Edition - Multi-Feature (4 Discs) - UHD/Blu-ray + Digital https://a.co/d/azEAEdo 2 movie special collection feels strange when we know there will be a third. I dunno if I’m into these extras also. Box is neat at least.
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It’s still a lot of money for 2 movies, even with extras.
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Finally caught up to this thread and lol at people being unable to perceive Miles' worry about the fact that Gwen left her toothbrush at Hobie's place.
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Just got back from the Into the Spider-verse concert in LA, it ruled. Daniel Pemberton was there and played the keys. The Miles and Spider-Man motifs are just so fulfilling, I can't get enough
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Rewatched this home on the 4K finally. It’s still as beautiful as ever. The writing felt stronger this time too as there’s a lot of parallels between Gwen and Miles. Going to have to check out the commentary next.
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I feel like reaction to this movie has been kinda muted compared to how incredibly good it is, and I feel like that’s the fault of the cliffhanger ending. Everyone is waiting for the next movie to pass judgement.
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Just watched this last night and I had somehow missed that it was a Part 1 until I paused to get a drink and realized we were fifteen minutes from the ending with far too much to wrap up, lol. I liked this a lot but I feel dissatisfied with the structure. It feels more like half of a five hour movie, rather than a movie with a cliffhanger, if that makes sense. Like, stuff like Back to the Future 2 or Matrix Reloaded have clear plot threads that are essentially completed, and THEN we get the surprise and the lead-in to the next movie. In Spiderverse, both the Spot and the Miguel plots get set up and established as threats, nothing is really resolved and it's kind of unsatisfying. I wouldn't cut anything, but I would have preferred if they structured things differently from the start so that this movie has a threat of its own that mostly (seems to) get resolved, and then we pivot to the cliffhanger reveal to set up the sequel. Something that would let this stand up on its own. I dunno, maybe I'll feel differently once part 2 comes out and I watch it. Tender Bender fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Nov 11, 2023 |
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This one has a lot in common with Reloaded I think. Both are question the first film (I’m spiderman vs is it good you are spiderman, and I’m the one vs is it good to have a messiah) Both have an enemy they create and fight who goes out to get stronger before a destined final fight (spot and smith). This final fight doesn’t happen in either movie. Both instead of big action set pieces before a final twisting reveal. And both have their own trolley problem: save his dad and dimension dies, save Trinity and Zion dies. The difference here is that the choice is made in the reloaded, though we have no doubts about Miles choice either. The third matrix then deals with the consequences and is the weakest of the films. So hard to say if this is the best path or not.
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Not comparable. Matrix is bad. Spider verse is goat
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Tender Bender posted:Just watched this last night and I had somehow missed that it was a Part 1 until I paused to get a drink and realized we were fifteen minutes from the ending with far too much to wrap up, lol. I disagree because I thought it was made clear pretty early on it was a 2-parter. Sort of the way LOTR definitely structured itself as a 3 part movie vs 3 individual movies. Although holy poo poo I remember the end of the first one and the gaggle of people in the theater that didn't know it was a trilogy. Ending on Sam and Frodo staring at Mt. Doom. Lots of loud "what the gently caress that's IT?!?!?" in the theater.
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BonoMan posted:I disagree because I thought it was made clear pretty early on it was a 2-parter. Where? When? Heck, Back to the Future 2 did a better job, given it ends after its own complete arc and confrontation with a clear stylistic break, and is its own complete story.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Where? When? Literally in the first trailer: 
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BonoMan posted:I disagree because I thought it was made clear pretty early on it was a 2-parter. I mean regardless of how it was marketed I just find as a film it felt incomplete. For example I think each of the LOTR movies are a good film experience: you need to see the whole trilogy but each movie tells its own arcs with satisfying climaxes (even though they were constrained by adapting an existing story) Spiderverse feels more like Dune Part 1, which also has the excuse that it's adapting an existing story.
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Wanna gag in the last movie where the characters end up in a completely unassuming world, walk into a movie theatre and realise they are in the universe where the Spiderverse is just a movie series and Olivia Octavious, Norman Osbourne and Miguel O'Hara are in the audience watching that exact moment. Then they all just slowly turn their heads to see who just walked in in the middle of the movie like an rear end in a top hat..
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It works well as a Gwen arc and even Miles deciding he wants to tell his family the truth. It just sets up more for next film. It’s like fellowship in that it ends with the group split, mission left incomplete, and part of the group out to rescue others who were captured . I do get wanting more though and I’m definitely hyped for next film. Spot seems too great for Miles to defeat alone so can understand giving that confrontation more time.
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Tender Bender posted:Just watched this last night and I had somehow missed that it was a Part 1 until I paused to get a drink and realized we were fifteen minutes from the ending with far too much to wrap up, lol. Yeah I agree. I saw it at release and knew it was part 1 of 2 and it still felt like the most egregious "cutting a film in half" I've ever seen. It helps that it's an amazing film but the way it just kinda ends is the worst part of the movie IMO
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checkplease posted:The third matrix then deals with the consequences and is the weakest of the films 
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The_Doctor posted:Literally in the first trailer:
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The idea of naming the films “Across the Spider-Verse Part One and Two” was scrapped more than a year before release and only showed up on some merch and a single teaser. It’s more than reasonable for people to have not heard this was a two-parter.
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