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ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



i feel like you can pretty much define a large chunk of modern media critique or "outrage" as: "this movie is potentially misconstrued by an imaginary enemy i made up in my mind therefore it is bad"

hell i'm guilty of it myself and was basically doing that when i saw the trailers for civil war until i read some interviews with alex garland and also decided to stop giving a poo poo

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Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Civil War seems like it's being hosed by the marketing. That said I still have zero faith in Garland as writer or director.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Gaius Marius posted:

Civil War seems like it's being hosed by the marketing. That said I still have zero faith in Garland as writer or director.

I think for Civil War, with the US currently in the state it’s in, there’s a general feeling of ‘is this a story you want to see right now at this point in time?’

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

From the interviews it seems that that isn't the story he's telling. It's just that the US happens to be his location for the examination of conflict tourism

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Then you’re likely right, the marketing is not bringing across the actual story at all.

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



The_Doctor posted:

I think for Civil War, with the US currently in the state it’s in, there’s a general feeling of ‘is this a story you want to see right now at this point in time?’

what "state" is the US currently in? every election year people tend to get so sensitive and uptight about bringing up or touching on political conflict like we're all little babies.

i take issue with this lens bc anyone who believes a movie about a theoretical civil war is going to in any way persuade or embolden anyone to be even more insufferable about their political choice just in turn makes them more insufferable about their political choice already.

i'm actually feeling a complete 180 on civil war bc anything that makes democrats and republicans nitpick about poo poo even more is pure entertainment for me.

checkplease
Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
The results of last election lead to a historic level of contention with Jan 6th and attempts to just disregard the actual voting results of several states. So yeah feels like added pressure.

That being said I do agree that the movie isn't going to make people be anymore extreme on their views. For me, the marketing feels a bit exploitative of political tensions, but I am more interested in how it views conflict journalist.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

Just saw Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire. It was a decent movie. A bit stupid in parts but overall I enjoyed it.

Man with Hat
Dec 26, 2007

Open up your Dethday present
It's a box of fucking nothing

Exciting Lemon
I saw Seven Samurai yesterday and it was okay I guess. Way too long, the action was terrible and there was a lot of just watching 20 people poking sticks in the mud around someone until they died.

The ending shots with the three survivors standing in front of the 4 mounds on the hill was beautiful though and it did manage to make me care when some good characters died so it got some characterization in there that was decent. The recruitment part of the movie was pretty good overall.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

I finished watching The Marvels and I'm more confused than when I first saw Memento, but not in a good way.

chibi luda
Apr 17, 2013

Data Graham posted:

I had to excuse myself from The Aviator a few days ago and just listen to it going on in the next room because there's something about it that just rubs me the wrong way anymore. It's catnip for a certain kind of hero-worshipping "the rules don't apply to me because I'm just that awesome" type of person, and a lot of it feels written out of spite, or to soothe a grudge, like the whole "We're socialists! :agesilaus: *dashes out to net butterflies*" scene.

But hearing it audio-only really exacerbated that effect somehow, because I didn't have any cool visuals to distract from the didactic drumbeat of the dialogue. The movie censorship scene where the frowsty old greybeards were going :monocle: at the pinup photos, "You see, zee measurements uff ... her CLEEVITCH" — just lol when it's pounding on you through the wall and you don't get the effect of it looking like a super serious Epic Movie and you hear what a goofball cartoon the whole thing sounds like

I mean it's extremely obvious that the movie is taking stylistic inspiration from old hollywood classics where people talked like that. And I dunno it's kind of a self own IMO to, like, run away from a movie in your own home and just listen to it for some spiteful reason lmao

chibi luda
Apr 17, 2013

Oh for content: Love Lies Bleeding was great. Really glad I went into it fresh. A lot grosser than I was expecting lol

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

chibi luda posted:

Oh for content: Love Lies Bleeding was great. Really glad I went into it fresh. A lot grosser than I was expecting lol

I really wanted to go see this with my wife but she doesn't do well with "gross" so I'm glad I didn't go into it blind, at least.

Crocobile
Dec 2, 2006

The Crow (1994). I’m of two minds about it. It’s an amazing comic book movie with awesome & stylish miniatures and matte paintings; there’s this unique texture to everything that really adds to the vibes. Some of the vfx look “dated” but I think they add to the charm. The rogues gallery of ghouls, the punk/goth tween, the One Good Cop, all the music scenes, everything has super fun vibes that feel right for a gritty 90s comic book movie.

On the other hand, I just don’t love revenge plots and was put off by how sadistic Eric is. Like gleefully taunting and torturing people? It also just sucks knowing Brandon Lee died a very preventable death filming it.

I jumped on Wikipedia after watching and saw that the guy who wrote the comic wrote it to process his grief after his wife was killed by a drunk driver. Which makes the so much sense, and makes me reconsider the revenge fantasy stuff.

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana
Nov 25, 2013

Crocobile posted:

The Crow (1994). I’m of two minds about it. It’s an amazing comic book movie with awesome & stylish miniatures and matte paintings; there’s this unique texture to everything that really adds to the vibes. Some of the vfx look “dated” but I think they add to the charm. The rogues gallery of ghouls, the punk/goth tween, the One Good Cop, all the music scenes, everything has super fun vibes that feel right for a gritty 90s comic book movie.

On the other hand, I just don’t love revenge plots and was put off by how sadistic Eric is. Like gleefully taunting and torturing people? It also just sucks knowing Brandon Lee died a very preventable death filming it.

I jumped on Wikipedia after watching and saw that the guy who wrote the comic wrote it to process his grief after his wife was killed by a drunk driver. Which makes the so much sense, and makes me reconsider the revenge fantasy stuff.

The O'Barr original comic was just as gruesome - so I'm glad Proyas managed to keep the tone, if not the content of the original. There was way more woo-woo mystical stuff like the Skull Cowboy and such.

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010
Late Night with the Devil (2023) Have you seen stuff like The Vast of Night, or Look Around You, or other similar stuff where a ton of effort has gone into paying attention to detail, and making things feel real and authentic? Well, Late Night with the Devil has exactly gently caress all of any of that. You know it's going to be poo poo in the opening scene, when they simulate an old CRT telly with a bunch of awful CGI, rather than...you know...just using a real CRT tv.

It's a film with a ton of great ideas, but with a frustrating lack of attention to detail, or any care to make anything feel authentic, or for anything to make sense in the real-tv/found-footage setting its supposed to have. It's an extremely dumb film, but it's pretty entertaining, so I don't totally hate it. It just could have been so much better.

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



disappointing to hear about late night. the trailer made it seem like it was gonna be creepy and interesting, but i don't think i could get past the stuff you're saying they swing and miss on. it would take me right out of the experience. bummer

surf rock
Aug 12, 2007

We need more women in STEM, and by that, I mean skateboarding, television, esports, and magic.
Just got back from Late Night with the Devil and did not notice a single thing that person is talking about.

I'm not saying they're wrong; I'm saying that if you weren't around in the '70s or highly familiar with the technology they had at the time, I don't think anything will seem amiss.

Getting to my own thoughts: what a fuckin' film. Amazing concept with really good execution. Performances were great, especially by Dastmalchian who is "that guy with the memorable face" in a lot of movies and who proved here that he can lead the hell out of a film.

I'm not very tuned into the horror genre, but it's my favorite since Midsommar five years ago.

EDIT: Oh, I do have a major criticism of the film, and it's not the use of AI in its production (I don't love that but it doesn't bother me as much as it does others). There's like 5 to 7 minutes of framing at the start that is just totally unnecessary and felt like it was included to get the runtime over 90 minutes. Would've loved for them to be a little braver about going shorter and just jumping directly to the "found footage" part without explanation, or at most with a few sentences of text or whatever. I don't think the movie would be any lesser for it.

SECOND EDIT: It probably doesn't help that I think there were roughly 10 production company logos/animations shown in the lead-up to the unnecessary framing device opener. That got very silly.

surf rock fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Mar 29, 2024

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



alright gently caress it i just canceled my advance ticket for monkey man to make room on my A List and grabbed a ticket to see this in like 40 minutes. i dont love most horror and think a lot of it relies on schlocky jumpscare weirdo crap, but this looks intriguing enough, and the trailer makes it seem like whatshisname can actually hold his own as the lead creep of a 70s satanic panic network exploitation satire whatever the hell this is.

will report back

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



surf rock posted:


EDIT: Oh, I do have a major criticism of the film, and it's not the use of AI in its production (I don't love that but it doesn't bother me as much as it does others). There's like 5 to 7 minutes of framing at the start that is just totally unnecessary and felt like it was included to get the runtime over 90 minutes. Would've loved for them to be a little braver about going shorter and just jumping directly to the "found footage" part without explanation, or at most with a few sentences of text or whatever. I don't think the movie would be any lesser for it.

SECOND EDIT: It probably doesn't help that I think there were roughly 10 production company logos/animations shown in the lead-up to the unnecessary framing device opener. That got very silly.

i agree with your first edit. the framing/exposition in the beginning was almost completely unnecessary. and to your second edit: it got a chuckle out of the audience. someone in the row behind me said "i hope the whole movie is just this"

i did not notice any weird cgi stuff that took me out of the authenticity of the movie. the old tube tv is used in the very beginning and is obviously fake but i didnt really care about that bc the whole movie had a layer of jank anyway.

i wasn't expecting the inclusion of a 1:1 copy of james randy and his monetary paranormal challenge to a T. that took me out more than any production value, really. they also deliberately made his character snarky and annoying but im fond of james randy so that irked me a little. not hugely offensive though.

the ending took a nice turn and was neat to follow the logic of what the movie was building up to, but it wasn't enough to really satisfy, and the whole thing takes too long to get to where it needs to get to for me to ever bother rewatching it.

overall pretty good, and probably a nice treat for genre fans.

MokBa
Jun 8, 2006

If you see something suspicious, bomb it!

Honestly I just like that Dastmalchian got to be in a movie where his character is a handsome, charming guy instead of a weird freak. (Well, he's kind of a weird freak for good ratings.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Watched Clash of the Titans 1983 and 2010 and it was twofold fascinating

1) 2010 is very, painfully on the nose at times, a response to the 1983 film not really a remake of it
2) The 2010 is a stunning example of taking a bad thing, improving it heavily, and still ending up with something that achieves Channing Tatum of quality.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Just saw Missing In Action for some reason and there's this sidekick guy whose boat Chuck Norris hires and all I could think was "we have Joe Don Baker at home"

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Pulled rank and put Clue on the big screen. First time I'd seen it in like 35 years and the only time I'd ever seen it not as a lovely VHS recording off local repeater-reflected antenna TV with only the Mrs. Peacock ending and degraded from about 100 viewings lmao. God I love this loving movie

The drawing-room farce genre is officially dead isn't it

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Murder by Death is another good one along those lines.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Insomnia Christopher Nolan
Man, it really doesn't work as the Psuedo-Heat sequel it wants to be. Hannah would've loving blasted Williams the second he got the chance.

Consider this, is Swank the best female character in a Nolan film? I think it might be and that's kinda sad.

Williams is surprisingly okay in this despite the fact that he's still got the problem of performing instead of acting. The fact that he's miscast almost works in his favor. Swank might be the most interesting character in the film despite being the dime store Clarice entirely because Al's Raskolnikov mimicry isn't all that interesting. The light shining in his room poo poo would make Poe roll their eyes.

Beautiful location shooting though. All in all it's a totally adequate crime thriller that is totally unremarkable except for its cast and what the director went on to do.

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana
Nov 25, 2013

Pacific Rim Uprising: a sequel to the Guillermo del Toro classic with John Boyega in the lead, taking over for Idris Elba. There's a lot to like but it's mostly a retread of stuff from the first - Charlie Day is back and he's the bad guy, after drifting with a Kaiju brain in the first one. A neat idea made all the better by the addition of a young cast and some cracker Jack CGI. I liked it, but tons of folks didn't. Not sure where that came from.

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Mar 31, 2024

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010
Surge (2020): 24 hours in the life of an airport security worker who has a massive mental breakdown on his birthday. Sort of like Falling Down but with Safdie brothers vibes and filmed in London. Possibly a bit of Joker in there too. I'd not heard of Ben Wishaw before this, and he's so loving good there were bits where it almost felt exploitative, like the producers let a genuinely severely mentally disturbed man loose on the streets. It's probably not as good as Good Time or Uncut Gems but I found it way more of an anxiety rollercoaster.

VVV I just noticed I put the wrong year on Surge lol

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LampkinsMateSteve
Jan 1, 2005

I've really fucked it. Have I fucked it?
I really like this thread -- I get a lot of good leads on movies to watch. Thanks, all! Just want to give a special shout-out to those of you who include the year a movie was made. Makes it a lot easier to look up, especially for some of those more generic movie titles. Knowing the year also gives a little more context sometimes. It's also often an indication that something has just been released in the US theatres/streaming services, so I am not too disappointed when I realize it's not going to be even available in Europe for a while.

Carillon
May 9, 2014






Poor Things: Man, this movie just goes for it huh. I really enjoyed it, but wonder how much the costuming and set design carried me over the slower parts. It's gorgeous, I loved the conceptions of Lisbon and Paris, really making it feel like a fairy tale.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
Just saw Kuso. I wish I could unsee Kuso.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Saltburn That was certainly something. :stare: like if Cruel Intentions and Magic Magic decided to slurp the bathwater of The Talented Mr Ripley. Rosamund Pike continues to own, and I wish she was in every movie. Really the whole cast is great but especially Barry Keoghan and Archie Madekwe who was apparently in Midsommar (guess Ill have to rewatch that).
Anyway best movie to involve a guy humping a pile of dirt.

9.5/10
I'll look at Promising Young Woman next since this was pretty dope.

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana
Nov 25, 2013

banned from Starbucks posted:

Saltburn That was certainly something. :stare: like if Cruel Intentions and Magic Magic decided to slurp the bathwater of The Talented Mr Ripley. Rosamund Pike continues to own, and I wish she was in every movie. Really the whole cast is great but especially Barry Keoghan and Archie Madekwe who was apparently in Midsommar (guess Ill have to rewatch that).
Anyway best movie to involve a guy humping a pile of dirt.

9.5/10
I'll look at Promising Young Woman next since this was pretty dope.

Promising Young Woman is a solid film with a lot of people going around just misunderstanding the whole thing and I love those, honestly

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Late Night w/the Devil

boy did they do James Randi dirty

big boi
Jun 11, 2007

Devil in a Blue Dress: Denzel is great as always, and a young Don Cheadle steals the movie for about twenty minutes. Some of the other performances underwhelmed me. The story was bog standard detective noir stuff with a dose of racial politics, which did add some interest. Overall didn't grab me.

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toiletbrush
May 17, 2010

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana posted:

Promising Young Woman is a solid film with a lot of people going around just misunderstanding the whole thing and I love those, honestly
yeah its pretty great. I ended up watching a bunch of reaction/review vids on YouTube and the visceral, pulling-shirt-over-face reactions it got from most people is like nothing I've ever seen, and speaks volumes.

Emily the Criminal (2022) Aubrey Plaza plays a young woman, crippled by debt, who's desperation draws her into the world of credit card fraud. Another film with Good Time vibes - loads of tension, super naturalistic acting, amazingly authentic characters and dialogue. It's not particular deep or layered but whatever, it's a fun ride that goes by quick. Dont watch the trailer tho, it literally gives the whole film away.

toiletbrush fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Apr 2, 2024

BigHead
Jul 25, 2003
Huh?


Nap Ghost
Paint, Owen Wilson's 2023 take on a Bob Ross satire movie.

Most of it was a pretty average Owen Wilson / Stephen Root type movie, with both of those actors playing exactly how they always play in every other movie. However, I can't remember a recent movie I've laughed harder at. I am a sucker for stupid gags, and two stood out to me. The Cheesepot Depot name rhyming, and Mary's car horn malfunctioning multiple times, but that having no payoff or plot forwarding effect at all, were both great. I had to pause the movie we were laughing so hard the first time they went into the Cheesepot Depot and then again when Mary was outside the burning barn and the car horn accidentally got tapped and malfunctioned for no reason.

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

What the! Stephen Root doesn't always do the same thing

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Stephen Root is incredibly recognizable and still manages to completely disappear into his roles.

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BigHead
Jul 25, 2003
Huh?


Nap Ghost
I love Stephen Root, and he was the most Stephen Root I've ever seen Stephen Root Stephen Root in this movie.

The world can use more Stephen Root.

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