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Nah, let's not let me rampant idiocy ruin a perfectly nice making GBS threads on bad thing thread. At least not until we've got a running thread for 2019.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oloFJAsxy0
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Truly the worst anime of 2018 was the friends we made along the way.
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a cartoon duck posted:Truly the worst anime of 2018 was the friends we made along the way. 
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That last page was garbage, and if I see one more post about perceived sexual assault in citrus I'm locking this thread for a half day.
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I'll repost this since it looks like the thread has wound down. There weren't any votes to change the rankings as far as I could tell, soMulderman posted:It's better than piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisss at least. Grapplejack posted:Well, since he did the worst, I'll go ahead and do a roundup for Most Avoided
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With three days left to go, can anything defeat franxx
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Namtab posted:With three days left to go, can anything defeat franxx
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Fabricated posted:That will probably be difficult considering the sheer number of people who somehow managed to make it long enough for it to get very bad and realize how it wasted their time. Seeing something that just totally sucks right off and bailing 1-3 episodes in probably is a lot less annoying then watching something just fall completely apart after enough investment has been made. See also: KumaMiko
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Fabricated posted:That will probably be difficult considering the sheer number of people who somehow managed to make it long enough for it to get very bad and realize how it wasted their time. Seeing something that just totally sucks right off and bailing 1-3 episodes in probably is a lot less annoying then watching something just fall completely apart after enough investment has been made. It's interesting, since a lot of the votes for it have been "It's not the worst, but..."
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just want to throw in that i am probably one of the extreme minority who watched every episode of backstreet girls, and then the extreme majority who hated every minute of it they saw there were 2-3 good jokes in the whole thing and then the rest of it was just really gross and bad and for bad people. also it is animated like trash. good op tho. e; to add to the purpose of the thread it was absolutely the worst anime i watched this year, the year where i watched at least like 50% of all anime including death march to the parallel world rhapsody. it's hard to top how bad gokudolls is. Another Person fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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Jan 10, 2019 02:52
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Another Person posted:just want to throw in that i am probably one of the extreme minority who watched every episode of backstreet girls, and then the extreme majority who hated every minute of it they saw I somehow completely forgot that came out that year. Jesus this means that we've had what, 4 isekai shows last year maybe more?
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doomrider7 posted:I somehow completely forgot that came out that year. Jesus this means that we've had what, 4 isekai shows last year maybe more? Way more than 4, i know because i watched more than 4
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I had a think and counted just the poo poo I saw at least one episode of... Isekai in 2018: Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody The Silver Guardian S2 (a Tencent joint - China loves their isekai too) How Not to Summon a Demon Lord Slime thing Overlord II and III Sword Art Online: Gun Gale Online Sword Art Online: Alticization (long live the 4 cour year of kirito) The Master of Ragnarok and the Blesser of Einherjar Conception Soft isekai: Goblin Slayer i think some of these are a good deal worse than goblin slayer (and this is saying nothing positive about the shitshow that is goblin slayer). i watched a lot of absolute trash in 2018. Another Person fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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I wouldn't call GGO an isekai, honestly. Nobody's trapped in anything, it's just a show about dorks playing games.
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Another Person posted:I had a think and counted just the poo poo I saw at least one episode of... Goblin Slayer isnt an isekai, its not a soft isekai, and people pushing the term Native Isekai are terrible.  It's just a fantasy show, you can say fantasy. It's a genre. Onmi fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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I thought 2017 had about an equal amount of Isekai but then I remembered that was when we still got adaptations of bog-standard fantasy light novels where everyone goes to magic high school or whatever.
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Onmi posted:Goblin Slayer isnt an isekai, its not a soft isekai, and people pushing the term Native Isekai are terrible. i mean, i can see the argument that goblin slayer uses like 95% of the same tropes and cliches as isekai stuff, with the sole left turn being "the main character was born there." i'm not really sure what you'd call that, since it is definitely not technically isekai but is also pretty adjacent to it. e: i also recall reading that the WN was a pretty big influence on a lot of future things that actually were isekai, which is at least partly why so many of them are horrifying edgelord garbage, but i don't have receipts for that. might have been in the gassed thread?
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Onmi posted:Goblin Slayer isnt an isekai, its not a soft isekai, and people pushing the term Native Isekai are terrible. It's a fantasy show set in the same sort of bland game-like fantasy world that isekai tend to be set in. A more specific term than "fantasy" is needed. Edit: LORD OF BOOTY beat me to it.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i mean, i can see the argument that goblin slayer uses like 95% of the same tropes and cliches as isekai stuff, with the sole left turn being "the main character was born there." i'm not really sure what you'd call that, since it is definitely not technically isekai but is also pretty adjacent to it. Isekai are tries about people transported or trapped in an alternate world. Digimon is an isekai, Pokemon is not, no one is transported from anywhere, there aren't game mechanics, no one's even natively teleported in world except the goblins. It's a fantasy story with fantasy story cliches. Say it with me. Fantasy story, normal fantasy story Silver2195 posted:It's a fantasy show set in the same sort of bland game-like fantasy world that isekai tend to be set in. A more specific term than "fantasy" is needed. It's just a fantasy world. When we start defining things by what they aren't they lose meaning. Is it a story about someone travelling to or being trapped in another world, or the world being magically changed in some way? No? Then it's not isekai in any level. Onmi fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i mean, i can see the argument that goblin slayer uses like 95% of the same tropes and cliches as isekai stuff, with the sole left turn being "the main character was born there." i'm not really sure what you'd call that, since it is definitely not technically isekai but is also pretty adjacent to it. Don't recall if it was the trend setter, but my friend who read the LN for review purposes says that the series goes full on wish fulfillment. quote:i think i told you I mean yeah it's not an isekai, but it has EVERYTHING that's often time negatively associated with the genre is in this series(Wish-fulfilment, loner badass lead, waifu harem). The fan-service stuff just sounds really loving gross and tasteless given how often rape occurs in the series.
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doomrider7 posted:Don't recall if it was the trend setter, but my friend who read the LN for review purposes says that the series goes full on wish fulfillment. I mean that thing you described does not happen. Period. Nor is the latter thing. Actually that whole description sounds like someone gleaning something from something someone said after glancing at a blurry image. Not that it's not schlock fantasy, it just literally has none of that. And even if it did, we have a word for these stories. It's a good one even it's been around for yonks. BAD. WE CALL THEM BAD STORIES, say it with me. "Goblin Slayer is bad fantasy." It is not "a soft isekai"
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Onmi posted:I mean that thing you described does not happen. Period. Nor is the latter thing. Actually that whole description sounds like someone gleaning something from something someone said after glancing at a blurry image. Not that it's not schlock fantasy, it just literally has none of that. I'm not saying it's isekai, just sharing some info that my friend forwarded me. Lots of that stuff is stuff that isekai series get tons of flack for is all I'm saying. No it doesn't make it an isekai, but it does have the same flaws that often get associated with that genre whether it's valid or not.
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doomrider7 posted:I'm not saying it's isekai, just sharing some info that my friend forwarded me. Lots of that stuff is stuff that isekai series get tons of flack for is all I'm saying. No it doesn't make it an isekai, but it does have the same flaws that often get associated with that genre whether it's valid or not. Perfectly okay with that because yeah we've had a slew of traditional fantasy tropes and cliches become associated with Isekai, but I just hate the Native Isekai/Soft Isekai terms so much because like... I hear that and think "Oh some dude teleported half way across the world to a place he's never been, but its still the same world." not "well it has some the same schlock cliches." Actually the former probably exists in some form.
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I imagine like all Isekai that in the source material he eventually indulges but I remember skimming the Death March manga and I remember being kinda amused how the MC was 100% not interested in his harem because he flatly says he prefers older women and usually just ends up banging the barwench of whatever tavern they end up visiting.
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Onmi posted:Perfectly okay with that because yeah we've had a slew of traditional fantasy tropes and cliches become associated with Isekai, but I just hate the Native Isekai/Soft Isekai terms so much because like... I hear that and think "Oh some dude teleported half way across the world to a place he's never been, but its still the same world." not "well it has some the same schlock cliches." Fair point and I wasn't even aware there was kind of distinction used or some such thing. I mean I can kind of get it for describing something like Inuyasha vs Escaflowne where in the former you go back in time to a very fantasy version of Japan with demons, spirits, and magic vs the latter where it's a full on different world, but using to describe, "This isn't a different world, but it has the same poo poo as isekai" is just loving stupid and misses the definition entirely.
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Onmi posted:"Oh some dude teleported half way across the world to a place he's never been, but its still the same world." not "well it has some the same schlock cliches." that's tales of the abyss
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Fabricated posted:I imagine like all Isekai that in the source material he eventually indulges but I remember skimming the Death March manga and I remember being kinda amused how the MC was 100% not interested in his harem because he flatly says he prefers older women and usually just ends up banging the barwench of whatever tavern they end up visiting. Someone probably Arisa'd themselves. Arisa is a green lantern who looked 13 but was apparently legal because planet rotation malarkey, anyway Hal Jordan had a whyboner for her but relented once she used her ring to age up her body. Ya know just in case you thought that poo poo was a japanese thing.
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nothing about isekai is really unique, most stuff commonly associated with it is just stock YA anime fantasy/harem tropes that already existed. I'll also get a bit up my rear end and say even the whole conceit of isekai isn't original, they just started pulling up the ladder with irl character death to make them totally escapist. also anime (and western pulp) fantasy was already often rooted in D&D gaming stuff, so there was already an underlying gaminess to it, even if the "world is literally an RPG readout and we take this self-seriously" is fairly new(?l
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Onmi posted:Someone probably Arisa'd themselves. I'm laughing like loving hyena because yeah, that was EXACTLY what I thought of when I read the aging up stuff in Shield Hero which somehow manages to take something already creepy as loving hell and make it even worse by adding the slave element to it. Motto posted:nothing about isekai is really unique, most stuff commonly associated with it is just stock YA anime fantasy/harem tropes that already existed. I'll also get a bit up my rear end and say even the whole conceit of isekai isn't original, they just started pulling up the ladder with irl character death to make them totally escapist. Not even anime. Books have been doing that poo poo for YEARS(except maybe the harem elements). One YA series I remember was Stravaganza which was about a fantasy version of Renaissance Italy you visit when you sleep holding a talisman from that world or something. Series was ok standard YA stuff. doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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my definition of isekai is 'gamey nerd poo poo which is clearly influence by videogames' and i dont care about turbonerd strict definition boundaries. goblin slayer is that. send me to anime prison for my genre crimes because who gives a gently caress when it comes to gamer fiction.
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i mean it probably helps to use words for their actual definitions especially when trying to discuss things with other people, but sure
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Another Person posted:my definition of isekai is 'gamey nerd poo poo which is clearly influence by videogames' and i dont care about turbonerd strict definition boundaries. goblin slayer is that. send me to anime prison for my genre crimes because who gives a gently caress when it comes to gamer fiction. Goblin Slayer is dungeons and dragons, a table top rpg. So even your own definition is wrong. You are bad and also a villain.
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it is weird to me how ryo mizuno has avoided this spiteful isekai classification despite just basing his series on tabletop games
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Another Person posted:my definition of isekai is 'gamey nerd poo poo which is clearly influence by videogames' and i dont care about turbonerd strict definition boundaries. goblin slayer is that. send me to anime prison for my genre crimes because who gives a gently caress when it comes to gamer fiction. 'Isekai' literally translated from Japanese means 'another world'. You can say that you don't like gamey fantasy, that's fine, but don't act like people are being pedantic when you are literally using the wrong terms to mean completely different things
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goblin slayer is so clearly and thoroughly influenced by both videogames and surrounding isekai storytelling stuff that it is hard to distinguish it in my mind. yeah, the protag doesn't literally get magicked away to another world, but that is... the only real dividing line. he is otherwise exactly in line with everything else about the genre, it just makes more sense to me to use that term when it is clearly going for that genre and that market. we call both the clash and green day punk. genre is soft, genre is marketing.
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Another Person posted:goblin slayer is so clearly and thoroughly influenced by both videogames and surrounding isekai storytelling stuff that it is hard to distinguish it in my mind. yeah, the protag doesn't literally get magicked away to another world, but that is... the only real dividing line. he is otherwise exactly in line with everything else about the genre, it just makes more sense to me to use that term when it is clearly going for that genre and that market. I really like that moe humour anime movie grave of the fireflies. This is you. This is what you sound like.
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