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Meanwhile today I'd been complaining that 70 degrees is way too high for January 1st, with the average high temp for this region and date apparently being in the low 50s.
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 Ted Rall posted:After All the Crap He Pulled, What Got Everyone Angry at Trump was His Moves Toward Peace
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I bet Tinsley thinks that being fired for saying it's cold outside in defiance of your liberal masters is a thing that actually happens
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Ted starting off the new year strong with another correct take.
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The blue thought balloon needs to be blank, tho. At least we got a return of d- drones? in the back there.
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Rall earning that sweet sweet RT paycheck, I see.
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Besesoth posted:He ran the Nib on Medium for a few years, which hosted up-and-coming political works, tries to run books on Kickstarter, and works on collabs with others. Bors is good people. Nitpicking, but doesn't he still run the Nib? Also the magazine got funded on Kickstarter and is a regular thing now.
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You know, the "Peace" that comes with handing the region to Russia on a silver goddamn platter. The russians pay Turd Droll, I'm sure they respect human rights much MUCH more.
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Fulchrum posted:You know, the "Peace" that comes with handing the region to Russia on a silver goddamn platter. The russians pay Turd Droll, I'm sure they respect human rights much MUCH more. Yeah, how was the Ukraine after we all peacefully let Russia do whatever the gently caress it wanted over there? Super peaceful, right? That all went well. Oh. Oh wait. Wikipedia now refers to the population of Ukraine as "excluding Crimea." Eh, probably still peaceful right?
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Can we not sully the thread with Rall this year?
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Zesty posted:Can we not sully the thread with Rall this year? Too late, the damage is rallready done.
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We can stop here. We don't need Rall in 2019. Just no one post him. It'll be okay. 
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Zesty posted:Can we not sully the thread with Rall this year? That would probably anger Ted Rall superfans, like sexpig and loquacious.
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Fulchrum posted:That would probably anger Ted Rall superfans, like sexpig and loquacious. And don't forget how smart Ted Rall fans are.
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Fulchrum posted:That would probably anger Ted Rall superfans, like sexpig and loquacious. The childish rage directed at anyone who comes with even the slightest defense of Rall's views is getting really tedious. We recently had several people defend Garrison and none of them were accused of being nazis, I'm sure we can reach the same level of mature discussion around Rall. Don't let him and his ~scary Russian rubles~ poison the well for any leftist ideas please.
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felch me daddy jr. posted:The childish rage directed at anyone who comes with even the slightest defense of Rall's views is getting really tedious. We recently had several people defend Garrison and none of them were accused of being nazis, I'm sure we can reach the same level of mature discussion around Rall. Don't let him and his ~scary Russian rubles~ poison the well for any leftist ideas please. There are leftist cartoonists who AREN'T taking money from Russia. If a leftist idea has the slightest hint of merit and isn't just a blindingly obvious bit of Russian propaganda that idiots fall for, then those other cartoonists can also make the same point, and people wouldn't need to defend loving Rall. Also, when did anyone defend Garrison?
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felch me daddy jr. posted:The childish rage directed at anyone who comes with even the slightest defense of Rall's views is getting really tedious. We recently had several people defend Garrison and none of them were accused of being nazis, I'm sure we can reach the same level of mature discussion around Rall. Don't let him and his ~scary Russian rubles~ poison the well for any leftist ideas please. I don’t think the Garrison discussion rose to the level of “defending him,” it was more of a discussion of whether his art has any merit on a technical level, not his politics. I don’t really see the problem with posting Rall or with the thread not having a consensus on a particular cartoonist being entirely good or bad like it usually does. As for Rall’s most recent cartoon, I agree with whoever said it would’ve been funnier if Trump’s thought bubble was empty or contained inane bullshit instead.
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Fulchrum posted:There are leftist cartoonists who AREN'T taking money from Russia. If a leftist idea has the slightest hint of merit and isn't just a blindingly obvious bit of Russian propaganda that idiots fall for, then those other cartoonists can also make the same point, and people wouldn't need to defend loving Rall. "This point could have been better made by a competent cartoonist" is valid criticism for every Rall toon, but that's different from "if you agree with a single point Rall makes you're being brainwashed by Putin to destroy America", which seems to be the position of certain posters. And yeah, the Garrison thing was about artistic merit so it's a bit different, but many bad cartoonists have made one or two cartoons with agreeable messages that when pointed out hasn't been met with the same vitriol.
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 In my defence, I'm pretty sure I put more effort both into the thought and execution of this than Rall did. felch me daddy jr. posted:"This point could have been better made by a competent cartoonist" is valid criticism for every Rall toon, but that's different from "if you agree with a single point Rall makes you're being brainwashed by Putin to destroy America", which seems to be the position of certain posters. Its not "this point could have been made better by a competent cartoonist", its "if this were a valid point, then a competent cartoonist would have also made it". Notice how Bennet isn't saying that Trump giving Putin free reign over the middle east is a good thing? Gee, I wonder if that might be because its only a point a propagandist would make. There is no reason to ever compliment Rall. If you agree with a point Rall makes that everyone else is making, you can just not talk about Rall and talk about all the other, better, non-paid-propaganda-pusher cartoons instead. If Rall is the only one pushing an angle, its because the angle is bad. And you'll notice that on the few times a conservative cartoonist makes a valid point, they aren't the only ones making that point. If the only person who is pushing a narrative is the person who is paid by RUssia to make bad faith and idiotic arguments, then that's a sign that the narrative is bad faith and idiotic. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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Ted Rall sucks on all levels including non-existent ones. Stop defending people who defend Ted Rall, because Ted Rall is not defensible or, at best, not worth defending.
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There's a difference between "Ted Rall is not worth defending" and "Ted Rall just made an argument in favor of ending Mideast interventionism? Haha, sounds like just what Vladimir Putin wants us to think! NOT TODAY VLAD" I usually argue against calls to stop posting an artist but if it means we don't have to sit through yet another discussion of how war is woke now, by all means no more Rall
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Ted Rall is not worth defending.
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Fulchrum posted:
I read it as "gently caress you, we'll do what we want"
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Raised By Birds posted:Meanwhile today I'd been complaining that 70 degrees is way too high for January 1st, with the average high temp for this region and date apparently being in the low 50s. A week or two ago, it was warmer where I am right now in New York than it was in Orlando. Very cool and normal thing to happen in the middle of December.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Ted Rall is not worth defending. If you're so mad at Ted Rall that you turn into a literal 2000s neocon over it maybe it's time to step back a little bit and get some perspective How about this, every time Ted Rall argues in favor of pulling out of the Mideast we just post this Clickhole tweet and move on with our lives https://twitter.com/clickhole/status/960568745298223104
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loquacius posted:There's a difference between "Ted Rall is not worth defending" and "Ted Rall just made an argument in favor of ending Mideast interventionism? Haha, sounds like just what Vladimir Putin wants us to think! NOT TODAY VLAD" Petulant strawmanning? No wonder you're a Rall fan.
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Zesty posted:We can stop here. We don't need Rall in 2019. Just no one post him. It'll be okay. If we were to stop posting any content my vote would definitely be PC, because there's nothing we'd actually miss out on.
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I'm in favour of slowly banning all cartoonists from the thread and moving on with our lives in peace. Fake edit: definitely shitcan 
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Pilchenstein posted:I'm in favour of slowly banning all cartoonists from the thread and moving on with our lives in peace. Don't stop at banning posting cartoonists in the thread, ban posting in general and make it retroactive by several years Only then will we be free
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Stultus Maximus posted:Petulant strawmanning? No wonder you're a Rall fan. google "jokes" Also "fan" since you seem confused on that one too
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So which organization does Rall work for again?
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im the guy who thinks the new red scare needs to include assuming that a major part of the neo-soviets' plans is using one of the dumbest, worst, artists on earth as their mouthpiece and feeding him talking points
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If we want to say "Ted Rall is bad" all day, that's fine It's when we let that translate into "therefore war is good" that I have a problem I don't think I've ever said a positive thing about Ted Rall, it's almost like the only people defending him are fake people, perhaps made out of animal feed
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yes sergi I give blowjob art man who never has seen boobs before his rubles clipped to today's talking points. Today he make poorly drawn comic saying withdrawing from middle east is good, a position no leftist could have naturally.
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Zesty posted:We can stop here. We don't need Rall in 2019. Just no one post him. It'll be okay. We can't stop posting straight up nazi propaganda, you really think we can stop posting Trafficticket Sadblowjob? sexpig by night posted:im the guy who thinks the new red scare needs to include assuming that a major part of the neo-soviets' plans is using one of the dumbest, worst, artists on earth as their mouthpiece and feeding him talking points There are literally ties between Trump and the Russian government being uncovered or hinted at almost biweekly, they are blatantly being used by Assad as mercenaries in his war against his own people, and they are covertly fighting a war using their own troops in a sovereign nation after having annexed part of said country. But yeah anything bad about Russia is just a new "red scare" (hint they aren't reds). I can get where "every war is evil" comes from, but you are dumb as loving poo poo. ryonguy fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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ryonguy posted:We can't stop posting straight up nazi propaganda, you really think we can stop posting Trafficticket Sadblowjob? lol
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'yea I get that you're saying interventionism is inherently bad but please be more respectful when talking about the paranoid brain bubbles of cia goons'
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ryonguy posted:We can't stop posting straight up nazi propaganda, you really think we can stop posting Trafficticket Sadblowjob? No, no, they're "neo-soviets" which is a term I made up so I can accuse you of being stuck in the past with anti-communist right wing propaganda.
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