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Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS/status/1083212082399432704

# ¿ Jan 10, 2019 05:30

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 15:11

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Do we even know where that rumor originated? It very well could have been Rich Making poo poo Up For Clicks.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2019 21:20

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

TwoPair posted:

Yeah but as I understand it that was more of a merchandising move so they don't have to sell 2 different toys that both say "Spider-Man" (which is still stupid but whatever). Then again though, Marvel animation believes its audience is full of complete morons who can't understand the concept of, for example, 2 different Avengers shows at once. (DC animation isn't much better though, with the infamous Bat-embargo)

I totally can believe this is the reason, and it's doubly stupid because they've certainly had no problems with putting Miles and Peter toys on the shelf at the same time as Spider-Man (admittedly in the more adult collector-oriented Marvel Legends line).

"Kid Arachnid" is a real drat bad name, though. Changing Spider-Gwen's hero name to "Ghost Spider" is vastly better.

# ¿ Jan 14, 2019 07:22

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Parallax posted:

is there a reason writers need to drag in fun characters from JLI into their overwrought bullshit

Because most of those characters haven't been relevant since then so they're expendable.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2019 22:02

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Teenage Fansub posted:

Was his big gig the N52 launch Superman? e: Looks like it was 'Sirens' for Boom.

The Heroes In Crisis #8 solicit is out and I have no idea if what we're seeing is hopeful or sinister, but the series may actually have given Wally fans something to get happy about.

My guess from before about the place somehow making their VR therapy sessions real might be backed up. So, Sanctuary basically turned into a wish machine and I suppose that means it can all be reversed.

Finally, Wally can get the farm-fresh leeks he's always wanted.

# ¿ Jan 20, 2019 02:21

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Well, you know what they say: write what you know.

# ¿ Jan 20, 2019 18:47

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

It's inherent to Wal-Mart. If you put superhero comics in Wal-Mart, kids are going to want them. If you're putting T-rated stuff in them, that should be indicated.

# ¿ Jan 20, 2019 19:00

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

BrianWilly posted:

If we as a species still can't see that King's one and only schtick is tired and obnoxious at this point, I feel that we can at the very least agree that "working through your issues" only gets someone so much leeway when it comes to writing mainstream fiction about cartoon characters.

I hope he writes Wonder Woman next just to annoy you.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2019 17:45

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Madkal posted:

Just don't read it then.

I say this so often that I'm convinced everyone here just reads comics for the sole purpose of complaining about them.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2019 05:39

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Yeah I dunno, if someone says "Stop reading bad comics" and your response is "But I HAVE to read bad comics because this character I like is in them!" then that's on you.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2019 07:49

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

E: Didn't see X-O's edit.

E2: I will say that the recommendation to read Martian Manhunter in the midst of a discussion about how misery porn comics are bad seems weird to me. That is BLATANTLY setting us up for some extreme misery. It's not being *quite* as openly depressive as Vision or Mister Miracle were, but there's no happy ending coming in that book.

Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jan 22, 2019

# ¿ Jan 22, 2019 18:06

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

#62 was great and I loved that they went to Old Ebbitt because if you're a tourist that doesn't know any better, of course you go to loving Old Ebbitt.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2019 13:30

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Never did.

But can't wait for the "I read bad comics solely to complain about them!" crew to get ahold of it!

# ¿ Feb 7, 2019 22:05

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

X-O posted:

They're finally going to do it. Not content with one or two Titans at a time they're finally going to kill EVERYONE.

An attack on Titans, you say? Sounds pretty Nazi!

# ¿ Feb 11, 2019 20:49

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Too bad Taylor doesn't have any writing experience with murdering the DC Universe.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2019 22:21

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Edge & Christian posted:

Female Furies is weird for a number of reasons, but primarily (at least as of the first issue) that it really gives the vibe of :clap: HIRE :clap: MORE :clap: WOMEN :clap: TORTURERS

Based only on the first issue, by front-loading the sexism and misogyny as the main problem, it glosses over that Apokalips is a genocidal death cult dictatorship that wants to enslave the universe. Granny Goodness is frustrated that she's not given the proper credit for backstabbing regicide, and that her wards aren't allowed to serve at a high level even though they can brutally murder dissidents and wipe out entire cultures just as well as the men.

If you told the same story with (say) the Injustice League at least there'd be some wiggle room for some plot beats about how Giganta is more concerned with taking care of henchpeople and their families than Luthor, or that Catwoman doesn't immediately try to solve every problem with mass murder like Joker seems to, you could put some sort "the lesser of two evils" gloss on the message.

When the dichotomy is "we all want to brutally crush countless billions, but I would never make someone do a swimsuit competition!" I really don't know what the book is going for.

The twist is that the bad guys are, in fact, bad guys.

(But yeah, I had a similar reaction.)

# ¿ Feb 19, 2019 21:08

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Issy posted:

Johns can do no wrong.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2019 22:17

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Issy posted:

??????

Friend, let me introduce you to Geoff Johns' run on Avengers.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2019 22:22

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Skwirl posted:

The writer also says they haven't read Ultimate Spider-Man or Alias, and fair enough if you thought his X-Men was worse than Chuck Austin's I'm not going to blame you for not seeking out more of his work, but you can't really consider yourself knowledgeable about a writer if you haven't read at least some of the book he wrote for pretty much his entire tenure at Marvel.

Does anywhere have a full count of how many issues of Ultimate Spider-Man he wrote, including just Spider-Man when Miles was brought into the 616? It's gotta be over 300, right?

Not quite 300. 293 total from what I can tell.

Ultimate Spider-Man vol. 1 1-133
Ultimate Six 1-7
Ultimate Spider-Man Annual 1-3
Ultimate Spider-Man: Requiem 1-2
Ultimate Power 1-3
Ultimate Enemy 1-4
Ultimate Mystery 1-4
Ultimate Doom 1-4 (I don't remember if Peter is in all of these, but we'll count them)
Ultimate Marvel Team-Up 1-16
Ultimate Marvel Team-Up Super Special
Ultimate Spider-Man vol. 2 1-15, 150-160
Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man 1-28
Spider-Men 1-5
Cataclysm: Ultimate Spider-Man 1-3
Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-Man 1-12
Spider-Man vol. 2 1-21, 234-240
Spider-Men 2 1-5
Civil War II 0-8 (I don't know if Miles appears in all of this as I've never read it)

# ¿ Apr 5, 2019 23:36

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Codependent Poster posted:

More HIC spoiler pages.

Well, it�s not an event until a Titan dies!

# ¿ Apr 24, 2019 02:35

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

It's free on Comixology if you don't want to spend the money.

# ¿ May 1, 2019 19:40

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

This is a crazy idea, but what if Batman is the real person and Bruce Wayne is the mask?

# ¿ May 15, 2019 20:50

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Yeah I�d hate to read a Batman comic by the guy whose most celebrated work is street-level heroes. No way that guy could pull it off!

# ¿ May 23, 2019 00:41

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Roth posted:

Woah, what on Earth happened that rocketed Immortal Hulk to #4?

It's very good.

# ¿ May 23, 2019 02:37

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Can't believe all the hatred of Gleek up in this twan.

# ¿ May 23, 2019 20:29

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

frameset posted:

He's under exclusive contract, and the man's got to eat.

The real question is which Marvel character will he write when he switches exclusivity after his contract is up?

"Exclusive" just means he can't write for Marvel. I'm sure he has an idea or two he could pitch to Image or Boom! or Dark Horse or Avatar or whoever.

# ¿ May 24, 2019 13:52

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Teenage Fansub posted:

so you could just pick this one issue up.

No.

# ¿ May 29, 2019 13:01

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

I think uh Rebirth? made Nu Ted into old Ted, but who loving knows

# ¿ May 29, 2019 16:41

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

I believe Preacher is technically creator-owned, but DC/Vertigo has publishing rights indefinitely.

# ¿ May 30, 2019 02:19

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

I'm in a panel with Keith Giffen and JM DeMatteis and it's pretty great. They had no idea what was going to happen with Max Lord our Identity Crisis while writing I Can't Believe its Not Justice League. Also DeMatteis apparently had no clue who any of the JLI characters were.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2019 21:28

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Sorry, yes, when he started writing them. He was quite lucid during the panel! And yeah, GalaxyCon. Good panel. I highly recommend catching them.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2019 03:19

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

So will Event Leviathan end before or after Doomsday Clock? I'm betting before.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2019 13:24

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

I don't want Jason Latour writing poo poo for DC I want him drawing Southern Bastards goddammit! (I assume it's still hypothetically ongoing. I haven't seen him or Aaron say otherwise.)

# ¿ Jun 12, 2019 20:06

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Well, I'm glad I had already decided not to buy Yet Another Superman Origin Story.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2019 20:27

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Skwirl posted:

I thought his version of Superman in the Dark Knight books was fine, like he was clearly in the wrong, but it fit the dystopia.

Actually, is this in continuity with the Dark Knight books?

# ¿ Jun 17, 2019 20:50

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

He's been in the same universe as the Justice League as long as he's existed.

# ¿ Jul 9, 2019 19:39

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Teenage Fansub posted:

I don't think that's been established since Superman Reborn, so it's probably just up to BMB.

While true, if he's the amalgamated versions of the Post-Crisis and the New 52 versions, he wouldn't have been. But then who knows.

# ¿ Jul 11, 2019 20:19

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Dawgstar posted:

Has there ever only been the one Metal (Wo)Man?

As far as I know, Platinum is the only one, yeah.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2019 21:32

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Teenage Fansub posted:

October solicits: https://www.newsarama.com/46214-dc-comics-october-2019-solicitations.html
Aside from the ton of previously announce new things,
Linewide DCeased variant covers,
Secrets of Sinister House one-shot anthology
JRjr drawing Batman for two issues
Creature of the Night #4 is finally out

!!!!!

https://twitter.com/uzionmain/status/1153431595040280581?s=20

# ¿ Jul 22, 2019 23:38

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 15:11

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Open Marriage Night posted:

I saw the latest issue of that Leviathan event at the shop, and realized I don�t think I�ve seen a single post about it. Is anyone actually reading it?

I am! I'm enjoying it a lot! It's a *bit* Bendis-y in dialog at times, but I think he has a solid grasp of the characters for the most part, and it's good to see Manhunter doing things.

# ¿ Aug 16, 2019 02:07

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