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Archyduchess posted:Mark Russell does absolutely nothing for me. The earlier stuff of his left me completely unimpressed-- it had the kind of cynicism that ventriloquizes "wokeness" just through jaundiced irony but is so disaffected and cynical that it winds up advocating for nothing. Snagglepuss was one of the worst comics I read in 2018, totally lazy and insulting to me as a queer person and as a scholar of the period he was writing about. I've written about it before and I don't want to reiterate every single point again, but it was so blisteringly, scathingly sluggish and unfunny that the only conclusion I could come to was that "hey, remember the jokes about Snagglepuss being gay? They're true--- and he's got depression!" was the entirety of the joke. And that loving sucks. I’m gonna pitch BOOM! a Snagglepuss-inspired series reenvisioning the cast of Garfield as gay AIDS activists at the height of the epidemic in mid-80s New York I call it THE NERMAL HEART
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blast0rama posted:That’d be absolutely insane given he JUST did that Hollywood Reporter interview, which if his comments weren’t approved by WB/DC would be even wilder. The rumor is that the decision was made this past weekend, which would have been after that interview was conducted and published. Seems crazy, and I'd of course take it with a huge grain of salt, but it wouldn't be unprecedented for DC to get cold feet about a previously approved storyline.
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frameset posted:It's the top selling comic each month. Why would they do this? if the rumor is true, my guess would be that it has to do with DC (and WB?) reversing their approval of whatever the huge plot development King was hyping up in that THR interview was
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Not a confirmation, but not exactly a denial. Getting a feeling that Rich is legit on this one. https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/1131214891451338759
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Teenage Fansub posted:
That sounds awfully like how DiDio justified the decision to fire the Batwoman creative team back in 2013, though at least King is getting the chance to continue his story in some form.
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grain of salt, hopefully not true https://twitter.com/bleedingcool/status/1135947236079230978
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Teenage Fansub posted:edit: Best news up top: Lobdell/Booth? They have to know this is trolling, right?
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Roth posted:Legion is officially back this September oof, that's an amazing lineup of artists, but this sounds completely unsuited to Bendis' strengths as a writer, much more so than any of his other announced DC books also, how many can he possibly write per month? Is he dropping something?
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also, it sure sounds like JSA and Legion are returning without having anything to do with what's been going on in Doomsday Clock, in case anyone expected that to have a real impact on the broader DC line outside whatever small handful of Doomsday Clock Aftermath or whatever projects end up happening
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so has anyone figured out who the mystery female character in Legion Millennium is?
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oh god Legion Millennium is bad. not Age of Ultron bad, but definitely verging on Bendis self-parody
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Teenage Fansub posted:I assume AoU at least had narrative hooks from issue to issue. This doesn't have that, unless you count "This is eventually going to be about the Legion of Superheroes, right?" or "I guess I'll keep reading to see why on earth you picked Rose and Thorn as the protagonist." yeah, I assumed based on the solicitations and PR around this project that there would be some sort of narrative thread connecting these various DC future characters to each other and the Legion, but there simply isn't one, aside from Rose/Thorn showing up in each of them to whine about being immortal still think AoU is worse, though. at least this is only two issues
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BrianWilly posted:Doomsday Clock is a big ol' mess. I believe someone here coined the phrase "Cargo Cult Watchmen" to describe it, and it continues to be accurate. if anything, it's even more blatant this issue, and it certainly doesn't help that it looks to be increasingly irrelevant to broader DCU continuity
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Skwirl posted:Didn't Doomsday Clock #1 come out well before Bendis was even signed to DC? Like he was still writing Iron Man and the Miles Morales Spider-Man book? it came out within a few weeks of his DC exclusive being announced, iirc, though well before his first DC book shipped I vaguely recall rumors that Hickman was offered Legion but only on the condition that he had to wait until after Doomsday Clock was over, a condition which obviously didn't stick for Bendis, but those are probably from Bleeding Cool so huge grain of salt
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Roth posted:DSA is a very ugly looking comic with some rather blatant homophobic moments. I'm still baffled by how the scene depicting Hawk and Dove as an incestuous gay couple got published. Did Miller and/or his editor not realize they were brothers, or did he just have that much of a creative blank check on the project?
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so I guess DC decided to spoil that whole Superman/Batman "who are the infected heroes" mystery early, huh https://screenrant.com/dc-comics-he..._campaign=SR-TW
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Legion Millennium #2 is better than the first issue, at least because the Booster Gold story is actually decent. rest is trash, though also, I can't imagine putting this much effort into trying to prove that Doomsday Clock will actually fit perfectly into DC continuity, but here you go https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/1..._popular_mobile
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Rhyno posted:Jesus tap dancing Christ. Bleeding Cool has a story on DC"s 5G thing and man does it sound dumb as poo poo. Sounds like what Marvel did a few years back, no chance this sticks
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Darth Nat posted:I'd love to know the story behind Azzarello's Birds of Prey book, since it started out as just a regular DC title, then got sent to Black Label, and then that second BoP title under a different creative team got announced, and now the Azzarello book is just an oversized one-shot. I had the same question. guessing that its take on the BoP characters wasn't what DC editorial wanted with the movie coming out The Amanda Conner book is also just a Black Label miniseries. weird if there isn't a new ongoing in time for the movie
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oh... oh. https://twitter.com/uzionmain/status/1208808867209076739?s=21
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non-ending aside, lmao at how JL #39 "acknowledged" Doomsday Clock "okay, none of this actually happened in the same DCU as everything else, but it still mattered... somehow... uh, because we say it did, I guess, please don't ask any further questions"
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well, it finally happened. wonder what precipitated this https://twitter.com/THR/status/1230965015924092929
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Xelkelvos posted:There's a least one person who's extremely happy about this not shocking, he was quite vocal back in 2013 or so about his issues with editorial on New 52 books. Don’t think he’s done anything for DC since
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Abroham Lincoln posted:The legacy characters are finally safe if anything, 5G seemed to be going firmly in the legacy direction
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Codependent Poster posted:I think there were a lot of things that pissed Waid off. that AICN interview from a decade or so ago is still a pretty juicy read about pre-New 52 DiDio DC
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Madkal posted:On the one hand intriguing, on the other hand I wonder how Gaiman feels about it. why would he be against it? Doesn’t he have creative approval over the Sandman Universe line?
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Madkal posted:I thought the unwritten agreement was that DC would consult Gaiman for using the Sandman characters, even if they didn't need to. A crossover just seems...very unlike a Sandman thing and was wondering if he was asked. Good to hear that he and Hill are mates so that makes it a better I mean, he was fine with Daniel appearing in Metal, which wasn’t terrible or anything but strikes me as a much weirder use of the characters than a crossover with an acclaimed creator-owned horror series. I’m sure he was consulted
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Noob Saibot posted:Does James Robinson have a similar gentlemen’s agreement concerning Starman? I’m blown away that the character hasn’t been seen since the early issues of Geoffs JSA after being such a hugely popular character in the 90s that’s what’s been reported in the past, at least for Jack Knight in particular
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If the rumors about what is/was planned for 5G are/were accurate (for those not following, the core Justice League members were allegedly going to be aged up significantly, seemingly by having their adventures shifted further back along the sliding timescale, and succeeded by mostly-new legacy characters) it’s not really hard to see why WB higher-ups might have gotten cold feet, and I’m honestly surprised it got as far along as it did
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so if the newest rumors about 5G are accurate, it sounds like it might be getting reworked into more of an All-New All-Different Marvel kind of thing, and that they might be backing away from the more drastic changes to the sliding timeline
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further evidence of post-DiDio creative upheaval: the Generation Two one-shot is missing from the June solicits (they were previously announced to be released monthly, beginning with Generation One in May)
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Covok posted:Generation Two? https://www.newsarama.com/49420-dc-s-generation-event-missing-from-june-2020-solicitations.html
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ElNarez posted:wasn't it already announced that the book was gonna be a reprint from the Wally story in Flash #750 and the Snyder Wonder Woman story from Wonder Woman #750? I feel like it was always reprints iirc it wasn't originally announced explicitly as a reprint book but yeah last I heard it's the Wally story from Flash #750 with a few extra pages, I forget what else
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Man, DC doing digital releases is a pretty bold attack on the direct market. No wonder they didn't say poo poo when the entire rest of the industry was coming together in solidarity. well they just caved in apparently
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not exactly shocking, but it sounds more and more like the 5G initiative and the Generation 1-5 one-shots leading up to it are completely dead, not merely being reworked https://www.denofgeek.com/comics/dark-nights-death-metal-rebuilds-the-dc-multiverse/ quote:Naturally, a book whose start gets pushed back because of a pandemic-induced society wide shutdown is going to shift a little bit, but the pandemic isn’t the only thing that changed what Death Metal is. “DC changed first. Dan [DiDio, former co-publisher of DC] left, and on top of that, the line changed in terms of what we were planning after 2020. …Everything has been fluid, but [Death] Metal has stayed what it was,” Snyder says. “The only thing that changed is the context. And what changed when the landscape for DC changed on the other side of it, and when editorial changed with Dan exiting, was just that we no longer had to be constrained by any timeframe of what was going to happen on the other side at all, so we got to expand. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 20:23 on May 11, 2020 |
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so idk about the canonicity of the Alan Scott story in the GL 100-page special, especially with 5G being dropped, but it sure looks like they're sticking with him being gay
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side_burned posted:I have been meaning to ask this thread if any news outs have come with a good run down on Dan's firing. My assumption has been that Time Warner finally figured out the Didio was not good an managing their precious intellectually properties but who knows. Comicsbeat had the best reporting I've seen, though maybe I missed one somewhere else: https://www.comicsbeat.com/crisis-on-earth-dan-didio-how-5g-was-a-crisis-too-far/ tl;dr: WB higher-ups got cold feet on the idea of "permanently"* replacing the classic DC characters with legacy characters, or possibly were never fully sold on the idea on the first place, and Didio was constantly micromanaging and changing plans for 5G (in a manner that sounds similar to the first few years of New 52, among other periods in his tenure), leading to low morale and high turnover, and in February, WB decided they had had enough. it also didn't help that the Batpenis debacle had happened just after Pam Lifford started as DiDio's boss in fall 2018, so maybe he was already on borrowed time after that *obviously it would never have really been permanent, this is superhero comics after all, but the big 5G rumor was that the classic DC heroes would be drastically aged up by shunting their adventures backwards in time several decades along the sliding timeline, the intent of which was presumably to make it feel more permanent than something like All-New Marvel Now
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Madkal posted:They did show it, and then a lot of jokes were made and DC freaked out and removed all bat-dicks from reprints. yeah, it was very naive of DiDio/Lee et al to think that that wouldn't get national media attention (if they expected it to get attention but didn't think it would play badly with the WB brass, that might have been even more naive) FilthyImp posted:I'm honestly a little fuzzy on the Gen 3/4 bits. Like do we not get Kyle or is he just recruited alongside other lanterns? Did Hal go all Parallax on us? Does Bart come back from the future to Impulse it up? presumably, the now-cancelled Generation One-Five one-shots were intended to address questions like those
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