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WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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harperdc posted:

Dear NTT,

Please use some of the money you receive from pensioners around Japan to have landline and fax service towards sponsoring speedy race cars. And also help bring a race back to Japan.

Your faithful customer,
harperdc

Oh yeah huh, this is a thing that would happen if a Japanese company looking for B2B networking became the title sponsor of a domestic-but-international-if-the-check-clears racing series.

Motegi road course? Surely not. Where might Indycar race in Japan these days?

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WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Seems like a title sponsor reveal is imminent.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://twitter.com/A_S12/status/1085223852358156288

And there it is.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://twitter.com/A_S12/status/1085228870633168897

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Mar 21, 2002

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Reynold posted:

I like how Verizon dumped the series and now we have a foreign telecom as the title sponsor instead, lol

NTT is #55 on the Fortune Global 500 list. Verizon is #37.

That's not a big drop-off. And that we're talking about Global 500 corporations enthusiastically wanting to sponsor Indycar, compared to Monster Energy phoning it in with NASCAR…

Actually Healthy Racing Series, indeed.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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KingShibby posted:

I did too until a few weeks ago when I saw the race had a generic "Grand Prix of Road America" title, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Kohler deal was for only 3 years and they didn't renew.

So as it stands now, the only races without title sponsors are:
  • CotA
  • Long Beach
  • Iowa
  • Portland
  • IMS Road Course (far less likely to get one)

St. Pete, Barber, Detroit, Toronto, Mid-Ohio, and Laguna Seca are all sponsored by series partners, which I would argue belong on that list, too. Maybe you can give each of them one race, and if you squint real hard Honda USA (MidO) and Honda Canada (Tornoto) are separate entities. But I just wonder what that would look like in NASCAR if 30% or whatever of the races were sponsored by the same brands you see at every race anyway.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Cygni posted:

Rolling out a car for Wickens is a classy move. Not sure I like the livery (compared to some of the wilder schemes theyve run lately)

Black/gold or black/yellow generally produce really good liveries. But yeah, there's something about those that makes it look substandard. Too much gold up front, I think?

Cygni posted:

but pretty great to see a company step up to sponsor two cars like that.

uh mate



There are three cars there

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://twitter.com/Motorsport/status/1087861224828620800

:getin:

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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The Kimoa Kid posted:

God help me, I'm already watching Indy 500 youtubes

one of us one of us one of us

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://twitter.com/A_S12/status/1091032146284855296

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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harperdc posted:

Firestone as Road to Indy sponsor and supplier would make sense.

I don't know if this would be it, though. By this point Cooper will be ramping up for the 2019 season and specifically getting ready for the RTI test at CotA in two weeks. All the RTI stuff, including the logos, is still branded with Cooper Tires and I don't see why any deal or contract with them is exitable or was meant to expire the week before their services would be required. If Firestone is taking over tires in Lights and/or the series below in upcoming seasons, announcing it at the beginning of this season would be very odd.

It could be as plain-jane as Firestone announcing a contract renewal for X years or maybe as significant as it becoming the NTT Indycar Series Presented by Firestone. But I'd bet against it being related to the ladder.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Or, Firestone Cosworth confirmed

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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KingShibby posted:

I got YouTube TV last year and it's the greatest thing ever for only :20bux::20bux:/mo, and the INDYCAR Pass works down to $4.17/month so <$45/mo is better than anything cable could ever offer

:same:

The Kimoa Kid posted:

The IndyCar "pass" is named as such because that's what I'm gonna do to the idea of spending $50 on content they used to provide for free.

It's a loss missing out on YouTube practices and replays but I think the series feels it will be worth it in the long-term to monetize this stuff and use that money to invest into the future. The audience is big enough to where Indycar and NBC sees more value in charging for it than giving it away; but not yet big enough to have mega TV deals, huge league revenues, or sheer audience numbers that can subsidize it like with packages for other sports leagues (MLB, NHL, etc).

IMO this is a good step in the right direction, ultimately. It might be another step or two before it's perfected, but we're not moving backwards with this.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Reynold posted:

I’ll pay for the Indycar pass, even though practice is usually boring and the qualifying format is often uninteresting compared to F1. All for the promise of decent Road to Indy coverage and replay access. If they drop the ball there, static cameras and no graphics or uninformed announcers, I’m out. How many times did the announcers for MRTI events not even loving realize the race was ending last year? The coverage was trash. If that’s what we’re getting, gently caress that.

I'm expecting the Indy Lights races to be full production complete with booth guys that know What The gently caress about what's going on. It will be a biiiiiiig strike if it isn't.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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The Kimoa Kid posted:

What the gently caress ever happened to the aeroscreen?

Info update coming this week, according to Pruett.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Cygni posted:

RHR won 2 races, both in impressive fashion, and had four 2nd place finishes.

don't forget the heat

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY5KTVA_2ys

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://twitter.com/DaveDespain/status/1099866436686749696
https://twitter.com/DaveDespain/status/1099867708261322752
https://twitter.com/DaveDespain/status/1099868266561003520

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4LDnE2ps_o&t=3889s

I wouldn't believe if I didn't see it.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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FuzzySkinner posted:

We need to watch this in synchtube.

Pick a night.

Tomorrow/Monday night. Why wait?

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Thinking on it, they're making Saturday qualifying super-awesome at the cost of over-simplifying Sunday. The mayhem of pole-speed cars and fringe bump cars tripping over each other late Saturday to get into the Top 9 or the Top 30 will be amazing. It just rubs me the wrong way that drivers are only getting one chance to get into the field during the last row shootout. I understand they're doing this because of TV considerations, but I'd be more comfortable if the slower cars had a lot more qualifying time to make those last-gasp desperate wing trims. We'll see.

Also!

https://twitter.com/A_S12/status/1101214807716478978

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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prowr

https://twitter.com/f1broadcasting/status/1101073147581947904?s=21

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://twitter.com/IndyCar/status/1108798916336775168

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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COTA is a bad track because so much of its design was literally lifted from other, more famous and better circuits. It's literally a Frankentrack. There is hardly any originality in new track designs anymore; it's just lean one or two novel and unique features and then just copypasta in bits from everywhere else.

That being said, Indycar putting on a very entertaining race despite that says everything about how good of a series Indycar is at producing great racing.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Peanut President posted:

Watkins Glen is perfect.

Unpopular opinion: I don't like Watkins Glen all that much

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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KingShibby posted:

By that measure Pocono is a bad track by design

It kind of is actually

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

for the record silverstone is probably in my bottom 5 race tracks in the world. however silverstone being substantially worse than cota doesn't absolve cota from being poo poo.

Is it bad because of the design, or is it bad because the cars that primarily race on it are bad for it?

For example, The Goodwood Circuit would be bad if F1 cars ran on it, but for the period cars that race on it it's perfect.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just want to get an idea of how that factors in to your opinion.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

i'm not sure which track you're referring to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9nIQr3ijlg

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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CactusWeasle posted:

The Disney world track has been bulldozed. Shame, because it was an actual, legit, interesting little track

Reminds me of this interesting thing on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/wyndiman/status/1029126319018102784

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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KingShibby posted:

Yeah I'll definitely be writing something later today, but this is quite interesting:



Long Beach is an incredible value for $70, what with all the stuff to do in the expo center and around the track, on top of the race happening. If you wanted to add the paddock pass for Sunday ($27) on top of that then you'd be at about the same price that Laguna Seca is asking for, just not nearly the same value. Maybe they figure that having All The Series racing there would make up for that?

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Proud Christian Mom posted:

From what I saw Fontana didn't really sell anything

General Aversion

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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What Takuma Sato was thinking for the last five minutes of the race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIRLhecbRsY

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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:siren:

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status/1115781712351510528

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Mar 21, 2002

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iospace posted:

I'd honestly place WEC and Indy at the same level. They both are arguably a tier lower than F1 on the international stage, and both series are overshadowed by their main race.

But it's also true that you probably can't win the main race unless you're involved with the series.

In the case of the WEC it's because the P1 cars (the only cars that could ever win overall) are tied in with the manufacturers which are also tied into the series. Doubly so for the superseason.

In the case with Indycar, though it's possible for a one-off entry to still win, you have better odds if you either partner with a team that's experience or gain that experience yourself. And getting it yourself often means committing to a full season.

Alonso wanted to win Le Mans badly enough to be OK committing to a full WEC season. Who's to say he won't want to win Indy badly enough to commit to a full Indycar season, especially if there's a fun factor involved?

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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I like Graham Rahal, don't @ me

He deserved 4th, block or not, either way he admitted that he was going to get passed regardless so you might as well go for it.

Typical Long Beach race in the end, though. If Rossi wins another one in the next year or two he's going to win as many or more as Little Al.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Basticle posted:

I think we can all 100% agree that Graham is still more likable than Marco.

And a better driver, lately for sure.

I was just thinking about how irrelevant Marco has become, actually. On top of that, he feels like a relic from the Bad Times of Indycar and nothing of value would be lost if he left the series. Which says everything about him, really.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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kidcoelacanth posted:

Who doesn't know Damon Hill?

You get great views of the surrounding area if you sit on top of it

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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If for some godforsaken reason this happens, there's got to be compromise. A driver making the field of 33 on speed should never be bumped out by someone with a guaranteed starting spot. We'd just be adding extra starters (provisionals basically) to the 12th row on back. But there also needs to be consequences for a full team team with a guaranteed spot if they don't make the field.

Ideas:

- One provisional per team instead of driver. If a Penske 1995 situation happens only one driver is getting in. This should be plenty for the big teams in fringe situations (RHR 2011) without crowding the grid. As a bonus, it gives extra security for teams doing full Indycar seasons for the first time, encouraging more full-time entries.
- Any team/driver/car granted a provisional loses 50 or 100 points in the standings. We can't very well have a series champion that can't even qualify at Indy, now can we?
- Put a cap of three provisional entries, with an agreed upon order of preference when selecting them. The one or two Penske/Ganassi/Andretti cars that somehow don't make it on speed will probably never get shut out no matter how you do this (points leaders, past winners, etc.).
- The 11th row is and always will be the "last row" and get all the parties/press/awards that come with that. The 12th row provisional starters (let's call it the "row of shame") do not get to participate in the traditional press tour and are not eligible for contingency awards.

This can be done if it's done smart.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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Cygni posted:

e and connor with the steel panel/rivet look:



Sweet ride

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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https://twitter.com/A_S12/status/1121820229699538945?s=19

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WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

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gret posted:

WiFi really isn't suited for such a large crowd of people like race day and really needs to be specifically set up and designed to do so.

Verizon had something setup at the track that was basically a one-way Wifi broadcast, or something along those lines, that could pump a signal to everyone without bogging down the network.

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