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Captain_Maclaine posted:There have been persistent conspiracy theories that his crash in 1968 was due to foul play, but yeah it's a bunch of bullshit. Yeah, the crash fits really well with his lifetime of risky behavior. If I recall he once jumped out a second story window to avoid being caught having sex with someone who wasn't his wife.
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Crazycryodude posted:Oh thank god a CSPAM space thread, is the other one still infested with BAZIONGOs that will form an angry mob and run me out if I dare even breathe criticism of Our Lord and Savior, the Once and Future Emperor of Mars, the Last Best Hope of Mankind, Elon Musk? Yes. Crazycryodude posted:I wanna be an aerospace engineer, but I want to build spaceships to do communism with, I don't wanna work for Lockheed making Hellfires. Of course, the only internships and jobs are for Lockheed making Hellfires. What do? Try getting an internship at Rocket Lab? It's a lovely place to work because space 2.0 silicon valley work a billion hours for nothing bullshit but at least you won't be directly working for a company that makes the weapons of imperialism (just supplying them services as they're your customers) also bonus Peter Beck is from what I've heard about Elon about a billion times better to work for. He's still trying to suck all of your surplus labor like a vampire for personal enrichment but he's not a drugged out raving psycho.
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Maybe manslaughter is a better term but w.e.
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I'm getting Yuri Gagarin mixed up with the guy who had to fly a craft everyone said wasn't safe and had it burn up on him
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yeah you're thinking of the soyuz 1 guy
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Yea that was real bad but it is badass to die by cursing the people responsible by name over the radio.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:yeah you're thinking of the soyuz 1 guy Vladimir Komarov.
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Crazycryodude posted:I wanna be an aerospace engineer, but I want to build spaceships to do communism with, I don't wanna work for Lockheed making Hellfires. Of course, the only internships and jobs are for Lockheed making Hellfires. What do? Most internships/co-ops I've seen and hired tend to be technology-focused. This typically goes for defense contractors AFAIK but I've heard of some defense-specific projects for interns, too. If you don't mind that work dual use technologies, e.g. working on better space antennas, you can do that. Most defense tech eventually makes it to the civilian side because the companies make the investments and then make more profit by offering it to NASA, etc. Otherwise, there's plenty of NASA internships. The best way to get one is find someone at a conference and make them understand you can actually do stuff they need rather than waste their time having to be taught everything. It's not uncommon for interns to later be brought on as contractors and, if they want, ultimately civil servants. Just keep nagging them by email/phone until they relent and find something for you. Most intern funding doesn't come from projects themselves but education or specific offices that fund internships. There's also generally non-mil commercial vendors (e.g. SSL) & a burgeoning smallsat industry for civilian imaging/telecom. I suspect there's less opportunities there because they're more business/less research oriented. e: even more advice: the interns that leave the best impression are those who do a project that's something their managers want to do but don't have the resources for - and offer results the managers had hoped for. it's partly luck of the draw depending on the projects & managers, but if you can get a sense of what seems promising and do that, it can make a big difference. Karl Sharks posted:what's up there? Not much. guidoanselmi has issued a correction as of 02:25 on Jan 13, 2019 |
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3 posted:the whole concept of a "space race" is ridiculous since if it was actually a judged competition, the soviets beat the US in every single metric except for putting people on the moon (and even then you could make the argument that if korolev had lived, they'd have gotten that one too) that's why the US picked that metric it was so far beyond existing rocketry that the Americans figured the Soviets' existing rocket advantage would be dwarfed by comparison, and it was so expensive that the US figured their superior ability to throw money at the problem gave them a real shot at it
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space is stupid and bougie
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Sad Failing Russia continuously losing the Space Race by not sending cars into space, as a publicity stunt
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bird with big dick posted:space is stupid and bougie It's literally the only place in existence without markets, classes, or commodities. It's communism in its ideal form.
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nationalize spacex, change the name on the sign to SpaceUSPS, and make elon ride their new water tower https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1083567087983964160
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that is so obviously loving photoshopped I don’t even know what
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Marxalot posted:nationalize spacex, change the name on the sign to SpaceUSPS, and make elon ride their new water tower 
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Lol it looks so bad, I would have given them 1000% more credit if they hadn't tacked all of that shiny sheet metal to the outside of the actual structure for purely cosmetic reasons. I get it when people say "that's just to make it look good to investors/the public" but I mean drat how stupid do they think people are (very).
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no seriously it would look way better if it looked worse, if that makes any sense
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Yeah I could respect some crazy loving contraption that was just some tanks/pumps/motors with wires and hoses running everywhere.
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yeah like when ‘real’ rocket developers test their stuff it’s just exposed parts or maybe a rough housing to protect the equipment or elude to a general form but it’s obvious that it’s for testing. this fuckin thing looks like the punchline to a joke. every time I see it screen-capped it just comes off like a running gag from arrested development or something
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space fetishism is just a continuation of colonial ideology. like, they don't even try to hide it:
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Unironically isn't the Iridium network old as poo poo by now. I know the Hughes constellation is insanely old too. Either our corporations will give up on it forever or they'll be trying to design and launch new constellations soon so I'd imagine theres probably a couple non-graft space startups somewhere
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The final launch to complete the second generation Iridium network was a couple of days ago.
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Larry Parrish posted:Unironically isn't the Iridium network old as poo poo by now. I know the Hughes constellation is insanely old too. Either our corporations will give up on it forever or they'll be trying to design and launch new constellations soon so I'd imagine theres probably a couple non-graft space startups somewhere I think I heard the iridiums are being cycled out with newer sats as they age. However the new ones are not nearly a shiny/reflective and wont do the iridium flare.
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uh, come to think of it. what exactly is the iridium network even used for nowadays. i remember a few years back there was that guy from hackercon or whatever its called in austin talking about how they reverse engineereed a bunch of stuff in the iridium network and apparently a bunch of its capacity wasnt commercially available anyway. i know they had a second gen constellation but thats hilarious if you say it literally just got finished. is there really that much demand for satphones...?
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Larry Parrish posted:uh, come to think of it. what exactly is the iridium network even used for nowadays. i remember a few years back there was that guy from hackercon or whatever its called in austin talking about how they reverse engineereed a bunch of stuff in the iridium network and apparently a bunch of its capacity wasnt commercially available anyway. i know they had a second gen constellation but thats hilarious if you say it literally just got finished. is there really that much demand for satphones...? Theres quite a bit of satphone demand here in AK for commerical fisherman. Cellphones stop workin when you hit that horizon.
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the only fiction which has come close to conceptualizing practical travel amongst the stars as well as the morally proper relationships between humans and computers is the Dune series we should be working toward a post-digital existence through mental discipline and drug use in order to propel the human race into a truly cosmic era
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The bazinga space thread insists that cheap space flight will create entirely new markets and change society etc, it's just impossible to foresee what these new markets and applications will be. I really ain't seeing it tho. They keep citing things like aluminum or steam power as historical precedent, but, like, it most definitely wasn't impossible to see that either of those could have a whole bunch of applications if only they were cheaper. Right now the commercial applications for space travel can pretty much be counted on one hand (communications and mapping are by far the most important ones), and tourism could potentially become one, but I really don't see any major new ones. The entire argument just sounds like bullshit tech determinism to me.
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Kraanerg posted:no seriously it would look way better if it looked worse, if that makes any sense got some good news for you then:  it doesn't actually look better
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TheFluff posted:The bazinga space thread insists that cheap space flight will create entirely new markets and change society etc, it's just impossible to foresee what these new markets and applications will be. I really ain't seeing it tho. They keep citing things like aluminum or steam power as historical precedent, but, like, it most definitely wasn't impossible to see that either of those could have a whole bunch of applications if only they were cheaper. Right now the commercial applications for space travel can pretty much be counted on one hand (communications and mapping are by far the most important ones), and tourism could potentially become one, but I really don't see any major new ones. The entire argument just sounds like bullshit tech determinism to me. the big two are resource exploitation and habitation, ie: concepts laid out in the high frontier all the way back in 1977.
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the asteroid belt is gonna get the poo poo mined out of it someday. i bet it'll be a clusterfuck, i wish i was likely to be here to see it
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i honestly don't know where the science is on it but i was figuring they'd have the factories out there too, or at least in microgravity somewhere cut out the middleman of earth's gravitational well, except when you need to deliver a finished product, and i bet you could build some poo poo these are the sorts of things that make me think it's not gonna happen until im a skeleton edit: i assume the factories will also make more copies of themselves and of the mining von neumann machines, so this is probably when gray goo happens and eventually the solar system is just endless copies of mining/factory bots with peter thiel's face on the side of them oystertoadfish has issued a correction as of 17:27 on Jan 13, 2019 |
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Somebody is going to weaponize asteroids and hold the world hostage in the stupidest thing to happen since 2019
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Helsing posted:Existing technology in the 60s probably would have been enough to let us build nuclear propelled craft that could reach about 3% of the speed of light, which would have put our solar system within reach and meant it would be a mere century give or take to reach the nearest star system. All for there mere cost of roughly one year of national GNP. Forget about Orion, there was a planned, way more realistic nuclear variant of the Saturn V, with a NERVA third stage. It was a no-brainer evolutionary improvement over the Saturn V and could have landed people on Mars in the 70s, and it was scrapped because of it (politically, it was better not to get another massively expensive manned mission approved)
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Prav posted:some space nerd tell me the logistics for getting minerals from the main belt to earth surface in an economically useful form because that seems daunting there probably isn't. the amount of energy need to haul meaningful amounts of ore back would be huge. it'd probably be easier to set up a space refinery to ship finished products back
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Realistically, you could probably set up refineries in the orbit of Mars, and potentially it's Lagrangian points (if we have the tech to mine asteroids in the belt, then we can easily do station keeping there). You can then forward the completed materials over to Earth or anywhere else where it's needed.
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