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long live mongodb. long live documentdb. hail bezos
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lmao it tops out at 64 TB of storage. that’s cute
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Jan 14, 2019 14:56
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Jan 14, 2019 15:00
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amazon just released their own document database which clones mongo’s last open api, 3.6
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Rex-Goliath posted:amazon just released their own document database which clones mongo’s last open api, 3.6 f lol
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Jan 14, 2019 15:10
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I hate Mongo with a loving passion thanks to work
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Jan 14, 2019 15:17
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lol
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Jan 14, 2019 15:18
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Jan 14, 2019 18:48
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yeah rip
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Jan 14, 2019 19:53
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dyin
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Jan 14, 2019 20:39
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mongo changed their license so that aws couldn't use them. amazon responded by just reimplementing mongo
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Jan 14, 2019 22:07
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Plorkyeran posted:mongo changed their license so that aws couldn't use them. amazon responded by just reimplementing mongo why the gently caress would they do this
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Jan 14, 2019 22:08
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yeah i dont get why they didn't just make a good document store instead of copying mongodb. well i mean i do but that's what they shoulda done.
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Jan 14, 2019 22:10
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they just copied the API, the backend looks like it's actually good, unlike mongodb
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Jan 14, 2019 22:26
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:they just copied the API, the backend looks like it's actually good, unlike mongodb nice but the mongo api sucks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKRma7PDW10
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Jan 14, 2019 22:28
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i don't understand why anyone would use mongodb or even want a document store. your poo poo's relational, yes it is, i promise, look harder at it, or have someone else design the schema if your brain is too broken from staring at json all day. then you get to use sql and a stable rdbms and live happily ever after
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Jan 14, 2019 22:30
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:nice but the mongo api sucks but keeping stuff which relied on that api was the purpose of the exercise if you are just making wishes about things amazon should build i think it is a pretty narrowminded idea to suggest a document database. a cure for cancer is probably in their economic reach, but perhaps a union for their employees if we look to keep things a bit bounded
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Jan 14, 2019 22:31
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:but keeping stuff which relied on that api was the purpose of the exercise i'm just here to dunk on mongo but i'm not dunking very hard
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Jan 14, 2019 22:32
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the use-cases for a document db are far and few between, and i've never come across the need for one, but amazon will be happy to take your money no matter what.
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Jan 14, 2019 22:32
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:the use-cases for a document db are far and few between, and i've never come across the need for one, but amazon will be happy to take your money no matter what. uh what if i have a shitload of documents, what then?
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Jan 14, 2019 22:53
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ADINSX posted:uh what if i have a shitload of documents, what then? i've been reading about this revolutionary new document store called a file system DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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Jan 14, 2019 23:05
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rip racist and ableist db
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Jan 14, 2019 23:12
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ADINSX posted:uh what if i have a shitload of documents, what then? DONT THREAD ON ME posted:i've been reading about this revolutionary new document store called a file system
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Jan 14, 2019 23:23
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blazing saddles is a good movie tho
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Jan 14, 2019 23:35
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DELETE CASCADE posted:i don't understand why anyone would use mongodb or even want a document store. your poo poo's relational, yes it is, i promise, look harder at it, or have someone else design the schema if your brain is too broken from staring at json all day. then you get to use sql and a stable rdbms and live happily ever after Ok, but is it webscale?
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Jan 14, 2019 23:47
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yes. it is webscale.
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Jan 14, 2019 23:52
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DELETE CASCADE posted:i don't understand why anyone would use mongodb or even want a document store. your poo poo's relational, yes it is, i promise, look harder at it, or have someone else design the schema if your brain is too broken from staring at json all day. then you get to use sql and a stable rdbms and live happily ever after even if you, for some reason, need a document database, if your documents are measured in kilobytes and not megabytes your rdbms' internal json/xml support will probably do just fine
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Jan 14, 2019 23:59
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:even if you, for some reason, need a document database, if your documents are measured in kilobytes and not megabytes your rdbms' internal json/xml support will probably do just fine ya and i feel like too many people get themselves into a self-justifying loop here... if your documents are megabytes but that's only because you refuse to normalize anything because you don't understand relational databases, welp
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good time to repost a classic:
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here's a real conversation I had at work, paraphrased for brevityquote:user: We want to move away from Firestore and to another cloud document store for my in-house written app. Anyone have any suggestions? It needs to be able to store data with a variable schema. I reckon a json document store might shine if you have extremely complicated objects that you want to pickle. There is probably a tipping point where a table with a bunch of foreign keys becomes harder to understand and maintain then blobs of JSON. Every single time I've seen one used, and I almost used mongo for a personal project because I fell into the same trap, it was literally to avoid the extremely trivial task of writing a schema for like, two tables.
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Jan 15, 2019 00:52
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there’s legit uses for document stores yeah but if you’re building a single application or a hobby project it’s probably not it
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Jan 15, 2019 01:16
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lol at some of you being beaten into submission and feeling like you just gotta have a schema because what’s the big deal?? once you’ve built something without having to care about it you’ll understand the appeal
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documentdb is web scale
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necc0 is now bad database shaggar
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Rex-Goliath posted:lol at some of you being beaten into submission and feeling like you just gotta have a schema because what’s the big deal?? once you’ve built something without having to care about it you’ll understand the appeal i get it but you can build a thing in postgres with a jsonb column (or with a schema because it's really not that hard) without caring about it and it will take the same amount of effort, work better, and you wont be hosed when your bullshit thing suddenly becomes important. if you don't care about it, why use really lovely tools that are going to force you to spend more time dealing with it. it's stupid. use good tools even if you're building something lovely. especially if you're building something lovely. DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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