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it was jimmy smash imo
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# ? May 3, 2024 20:11 |
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In light of recent incidents that expired I'd like to keep in mind the unheeded warning of Gigi that Jersey is a small state and if Ginny Sacrimoni moved there she could tip it over.
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# ? Apr 5, 2024 16:55 |
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Dawgstar posted:Patsy's actually in pretty good shape. If Tony died (he didn't), then he might have the best shot at Jersey boss and if Tony didn't die (he did) then he's got a good shot at underboss, especially with his son and Meadow hooking up. Not certain if this has been posted before, but this YouTube channel has some excellent videos about themes in the Sopranos as well as a video on Tony’s death that relates to this point. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hy4AGeuQ5pM
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# ? Apr 5, 2024 20:25 |
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Dawgstar posted:Gandolfini even wanted Richie to stay but they figured after a while it would strain credulity.
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# ? Apr 5, 2024 23:07 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:I think he sticks around for just the perfect amount of time. There's no way he would have been able to get away with continually challenging Tony's authority, no matter how connected he was. You just don't do that. TBH, the fact that the creators of the Sopranos knew that a charismatic but disruptive character like Ritchie can't last if they want to maintain verisimilitude is a major boon for the show, a lesser programme would have surrendered to the temptation to keep him around at the cost of the overall plot, and in the process probably would have just watered down what made him memorable in the first place. A similar thing happens later with Tony B, I know that Chase and the rest were trying hard to figure out a way to keep him alive but had to yield to the fact that him going way out of line like that meant he was a dead man no matter what in the world of the mafia.
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# ? Apr 5, 2024 23:56 |
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Tony specifically mentions Richie when he makes the call to get rid of Feech so quickly too.
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 00:12 |
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Ya gotta nip in da bud
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 00:13 |
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bentacos posted:Tony specifically mentions Richie when he makes the call to get rid of Feech so quickly too.
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 00:16 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes, although that was because Robert Loggia was a nightmare to work with and they fired him I've heard so many different, contradictory things about this but I don't think that Loggia was considered a nightmare in the sense that he was a massive rear end in a top hat they needed to get rid of, the difficulty came in him having trouble with his lines in his old age (he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's 6 years later). I think that Chase never actually said that they intentionally wrote him out of the show prematurely, I think the fanbase have kind of gone with that story because of the issues mentioned with him doing his lines. Watching the show its hard to see what else they could have really planned for Feech and I always thought that his subplot was neatly nestled into the season and served its purpose.
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 00:26 |
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I felt like he was going to be a bigger part of that season and then he’s just written out
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 01:43 |
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khwarezm posted:TBH, the fact that the creators of the Sopranos knew that a charismatic but disruptive character like Ritchie can't last what do you mean “charismatic”? he couldn’t sell it
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 08:22 |
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khwarezm posted:I've heard so many different, contradictory things about this but I don't think that Loggia was considered a nightmare in the sense that he was a massive rear end in a top hat they needed to get rid of, the difficulty came in him having trouble with his lines in his old age (he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's 6 years later). I think that Chase never actually said that they intentionally wrote him out of the show prematurely, I think the fanbase have kind of gone with that story because of the issues mentioned with him doing his lines. Watching the show its hard to see what else they could have really planned for Feech and I always thought that his subplot was neatly nestled into the season and served its purpose. I choose to believe he was forgetting his lines, which was disrupting an otherwise very tight ship as far as shooting goes. The only person who I've heard anyone say "he couldn't hang with us" about was Jamie Lynn Sigler's husband
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 13:32 |
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He's got tremendous moxie for his size
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 15:48 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8i01bL9a8Q I dont care, to me this is the best done scene in the show, when you factor in all the elements, especially the masterful use of the music. Who the gently caress knew about that Xzibit song to use it so perfectly here? But man, Jimmy's fingers? They're like 150 year old oaks. What a missed opportunity for Paulie or Sil to make a joke about him trying to finger someone or something.
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 04:30 |
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Finally finished my 6-7th watch with it being my wife's first. She loved the show until the very ending and now she's pissed. She loving hates the cut to black and is saying that it's a worse ending than Dexter or Game of Thrones. I think it's time for a divorce
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 05:21 |
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Throw all her all her poo poo out the bedroom window onto the driveway while blasting Layla
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 06:30 |
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Black Sunshine posted:Finally finished my 6-7th watch with it being my wife's first. She loved the show until the very ending and now she's pissed. She loving hates the cut to black and is saying that it's a worse ending than Dexter or Game of Thrones. Little Carmine calling that hyperbole but pronouncing it 'hyper bowl.'
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 14:16 |
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codo27 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8i01bL9a8Q I loved that scene when I first watched but upon rewatch and rewatch I feel like it makes the FBI seem like a much larger threat than they ever turned out to be.
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 16:42 |
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codo27 posted:But man, Jimmy's fingers? They're like 150 year old oaks. What a missed opportunity for Paulie or Sil to make a joke about him trying to finger someone or something. he'd have to kill them for calling him gay
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 18:21 |
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escape artist posted:I loved that scene when I first watched but upon rewatch and rewatch I feel like it makes the FBI seem like a much larger threat than they ever turned out to be. 9/11 made them shift their focus from organized crime to terrorism after season 3
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 18:46 |
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Ralph Hurley posted:9/11 made them shift their focus from organized crime to terrorism after season 3 Which makes so much sense from a "real world" perspective and was very smart of Chase to do. So many ither subpar shows would've just kept rolling hard on the FBI angle the entire show. It's not like they disappeared since they were still trying but they didn't have the full focus anymore. This show is so goddamn good
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 21:17 |
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In addition to the real-world shift in priorities mentioned above, I imagine that once the creative team realized the show wasn't going to be a one-season fluke and could run for a few years that they pulled back from pursuing any potential major FBI storylines. Best keep them as a quiet background presence than an imminent menace, since the endpoint with them has to be Tony's arrest and the effective end of the show. They will never make a major move, but the threat of the Feds is always there and the motivation for a lot of smaller plot arcs and character deaths over the rest of the series. That scene is our first confirmation that the crew is under close surveillance, but it also functions as a convenient mid-season reestablishment of the hierarchy for the audience: Junior's officially on top now, and Tony has (publicly) abandoned his ambitions to move up, he's remaining a capo*, here's who he's a peer with in the family (And we'll put names to faces - in print - for any viewers that are having a hard time keeping track of who's who.) *(who I must be loyle to)
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 21:50 |
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9/11, just a kid
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 23:20 |
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Ralph Hurley posted:9/11 made them shift their focus from organized crime to terrorism after season 3 Oh I am well aware and it made perfect sense. But I still feel that way. The FBI was thwarted by Meadow in that season before 9/11. Also important to remember Nancy Marchand's death made them change up their plan for season 3, where she was gonna be testifying. Livia + the FBI could've been a formidable team.
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 23:41 |
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posting after dark? I could be killed.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 00:14 |
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I tend to agree that the FBI are portrayed in a wobbly way through the show in terms of being an actual threat and let way too many opportunities slip through their fingers (not to mention losing like 90% of their informants), but at the very end its clear that Tony is probably a few days away from being hit with charges he can't wriggle out of, so I guess they did their job, finally.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 00:19 |
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Cranappleberry posted:posting after dark? I could be killed. I don't post on Something Awful when they're predicting rain.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 00:20 |
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Cranappleberry posted:posting after dark? I could be killed. The phone is an auditory thing, the dark is an eye thing
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 00:47 |
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Water, water, water. I’m living next door to Gunga Din.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 01:08 |
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Black Sunshine posted:Which makes so much sense from a "real world" perspective and was very smart of Chase to do. So many ither subpar shows would've just kept rolling hard on the FBI angle the entire show. It's not like they disappeared since they were still trying but they didn't have the full focus anymore. I liked how they dangled the idea of terrorism and middle eastern characters potentially being meaningful in that sense but then just kind of let that just dangle out there and die on the vine. I remember thinking that Chris' Arab connections and all that poo poo was gonna go somewhere but nope.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 02:08 |
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It's so cool how Tony and Harris drat near become friends. Like Andy after helping the guys with their taxes in Shawshank. I think we all know the attitude from law enforcement is always going to be containment rather than outright eradication. And like within the mob itself, respect and granting favors goes a long way.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 03:10 |
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Borrowed the new Mario from my brother and sat down with my wife to play. Pick Luigi of course. First words out of my mouth: Stupida loving game
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# ? Apr 10, 2024 00:35 |
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Covers codo27 eyes "its a handicap"
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# ? Apr 10, 2024 01:07 |
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codo27 posted:Borrowed the new Mario from my brother and sat down with my wife to play. Pick Luigi of course. First words out of my mouth: Stupida loving game But how did you hold the controller
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# ? Apr 10, 2024 01:19 |
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We only have the stock joycons for the Switch and my hands probably aren't far off Gandolfini's, so holding the already tiny half controller looks every bit as comical as the mario kart episode.
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# ? Apr 10, 2024 02:04 |
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Jerusalem posted:I know it's been said before, but if anybody "won" The Sopranos, it was Little Carmine. Dude is going to die an old man, happy and beloved, surrounded by family who adore him and who will miss him terribly. he 100 percent won The Mafia. That conversation he has with Tony at the golf course, he's left samsara so far behind he can't even see it anymore "you know I always enjoy those but it never occurs to me to order one" incredible. master of his own desires
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# ? Apr 11, 2024 20:33 |
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codo27 posted:We only have the stock joycons for the Switch and my hands probably aren't far off Gandolfini's, so holding the already tiny half controller looks every bit as comical as the mario kart episode. I always wondered if Robert Iler was sitting there saying "That's not how it works" when they told him to start a new game by pressing the reset button.
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# ? Apr 11, 2024 20:43 |
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People talking about the Mario Kart scene as the funniest 'this is how videogames work, right?' scene on the show when the Max Payne scene with Atari 2600 sound effects playing over it is right there.
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I'm honestly drawing a blank on that one.
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# ? May 3, 2024 20:11 |
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Jesse playing RAGE with a light gun.
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