crispix posted:

I always remember Melfi reading out Tony's apology letter to her psychiatrist, Elliott. I am reminded of it to this day every time I read something written by a dumb person trying to come across proper.

Dawgstar posted:

Does Tony actually kick up to anybody in New York? I was under impression they just split stuff like the Esplanade project instead.

Basebf555 posted:

Just in general I've never been exactly clear on what the New York/Jersey relationship entails. Obviously everyone understands that NY is more powerful, and so they defer to people like Johnny Sack, but is someone like Sack considered to be a New Jersey capo's direct superior? Or is it more just a traditional thing where NY is respected and feared but there's no "official" hierarchy that says Jersey has to do what they say?

Dawgstar posted:

To tie in it's also funny that the reason Furio doesn't like Christopher Columbus is he's from the north.

Jerusalem posted:

I kind of went off on an extended incoherent, inarticulate rant about perceptions of masculinity about halfway through there so it's a bit longer than it should have been, sorry!

Kevyn posted:

Tony’s family isn’t from Sicily, they’re from Avellino, near Naples.

Your Gay Uncle posted:

He's in The Deuce but he doesn't really have much to do in the show except sweep. He seems fine though, I doubt David Chase would be sentimental enough to just cast Gandolfini's son,he's probably got some chops.

Zaphod42 posted:

I really like that moment with Johnny Sack going "hey, what about capo?" and Ralphie goes "no, no way"

And then later he's like "Ralphie suggested Capo, but I threw cold water on it right away"

Its such a clear double-face moment, I love that. But like you said, Johnny is also like the only level-headed guy there, who doesn't give a poo poo and just wants things to go on making money.

EwokEntourage posted:

Yea it’s a pump and dump, which is why the two idiots beat that guy up for pushing different stocks. Also seems like the most complex scam they run

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She scoffs when he suggests he is trying to get out, noting that he will never leave Carmela: she may leave him, but he will never leave her. She is the one good female relationship outside of his mother he has ever had, the only one who is NOT exactly like his mother, and his own selfishness won't let him give that up.

DropsySufferer posted:

What I didn't understand about that episode was why Carmela was so resistant to military school. Was it because she didn't want her son to leave her? Personally I think the school might have been good for AJ to have had some discipline and direction in his life. Granted I've never met anyone who went to military school so I'm not sure if those schools are good for curing spoiled, and bad kids or if it is brainwashing?

Zaphod42 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtW0e-JW8Cc

This is a really good video

S4E1 is really, really good. I love opening and ending the episode on World Destruction.

Again, I love how the show's editing can reveal such clear double-facedness on the characters. Tony talks to Junior and tells him that things are fine and they are how they are, and he dares not give Junior any more money, and then turns around and berates the poo poo out of his captains for not kicking up enough to Junior like he deserves. HE isn't gonna fix things, but THEY should. Yeah, chain of command, but still.

Similarly, Paulie calling up Johnny Sack and ratting about the joke on his wife right away. And clearly looking for something in return.

Zaphod42 posted:

But when he gets too frustrated about not being able to retaliate for the joke on his wife, he jumps to talking to Tony about whacking Carmine.

Halloween Jack posted:

Apropos of nothing, going back and watching old clips made me realize that Chris has killed a guy with a single headshot at least three times.

BiggerBoat posted:

Brandon. Matt Bevalicqua.

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Cazzata Malanga, or "loving Malanga"- that apparently being "Little" Pussy Malanga, the guy Junior was going to have whacked at Vesuvio.

Pope Corky the IX posted:

Yeah, that’s why Junior had Tony helping him dig up his backyard in the beginning of that episode. Junior was convinced that he had buried cash from the “Boat Hall Heist”(?) in his backyard and Little Pussy Malanga knew about it.

Ishamael posted:

BiggerBoat posted:

If he hadn't dropped his gun at the diner he could have used that.

Speaking of that, isn't that a trope from The Godfather that you always drop the gun at the scene but that's not really true or what these guys actually do? Pretty sure I heard it in a wiseguy podcast/interview or something that no hit man would deliberately leave a murder weapon at the scene, which makes sense.

I guess the thinking goes you don't want to be caught with it but you probably don't want the cops to have it either whether it's traceable or not.

Fragmented posted:

Junior killed six dudes.Now print this post out and chew it up and let's never talk about this again.

BiggerBoat posted:

Which character actually undergoes any sort of genuine change for the better or a change of their own free will?

Basebf555 posted:

Yea that's a good one. Furio was definitely a cut above the average Jersey goon.

codo27 posted:

Funny what HD does to your old favorites. Seeing AJ after he had his eyebrows "shaved", he looks like fuckin Emperor Palpatine.

I think gfs favorite thing about the show is waiting to see what awful outfit/hair Carmella will be sporting next

Jack2142 posted:

I'm pretty sure Mikey Palmice was the only made guy to do cardio and look at where it got him.

Jerusalem posted:

Tony's line about how Bobby has no genes is particularly hilarious given how much of Janice and Tony's own personalities are so clearly informed by Livia's overwhelming presence. Though to be fair they both have a heaping helping of their father's utter selfishness as well.

Vichan posted:

Will Sasso does do an amazing Tony. Have to do a double take every time I first see him in Melfi's office.

banned from Starbucks posted:

This is the 4th and final of what I call the "last hurrah" episodes where a side character gets a majority of the focus of the episode and then their story is basically done and we never see them again. (Stage 5 for Johnny, Remember When for junior...whatever the one was called with Artie in 6A)

The episodes are great dont get me wrong but they feel I dunno...awkwardly done. Like instead of spacing stuff out over the season they cram it all into 1 episode like "Hey remember Johnny Sack? Yeah hes got cancer and now hes dead. Artie? Oh hes still a joke and a failure, peace Artie!"

Crosswell posted:

Here’s the LP I was talking about :

https://lparchive.org/A-Scotsman-In-Egypt/

Solice Kirsk posted:

Not eating those was basically the only good decision AJ made in the entire show. That is just an amazing scene. The "AJ what the gently caress?" followed by panic, confusion, anger, concern, then sadness. AJ totally breaking down and desperate, Tony cradling his kid hoping he can make it all better. Both actors loving knock it straight out of the park. This show always hits those big moments right out of the park. That's something that really separates The Sopranos from a lot of other prestige shows. The actors and the writing always seems to be just so natural and effortless.

phasmid posted:

Listen to Mr. Big Tough Mob Boss.



Oh, Meadow, no. Oh, child.

GoutPatrol posted:

Good thing this show is only featuring pure blood Sicilians then

Bip Roberts posted:

Wait, is the mob in Naples run by Sicilians?

BiggerBoat posted:

People are touching on it but this show does a tremendous job overall of making the viewer sympathetic to an entire cast full of absolute monster characters. It's a testament to the quality of the writing and also the acting.