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What's the story about how generous Gandolfini was to the cast? Something about only him getting a huge cut of the DVD revenues, none of the other cast got that, and he wrote massive checks to each member of the main cast to make up for it?
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Long Term Parking Ade: Matoush has cleaned up his act. he's really religious now, prays several times a day, and sends all his money to his brother FBI: In Pakistan. Ade: He runs a prep school for boys or something. What? Like that entire exchange the whole terrorism subtext is just hanging there while she's pleading about how nice he is and how it was an accident when this guy cleans up a murder like a pro.
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Feb 21, 2019 00:09
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Solice Kirsk posted:I think one of the better brief storylines was when Gene was trying to get out of the life to save his son/family and retire and both the government and the family refused to let him go. Killing himself really was the best solution to the problem to get his son help and his family far away from all the problems. The scene with him giving Tony his 'taste' of the inheritance was pretty gross too. He clearly wanted to buy his way out but Tony took it and send Silvio to give him the bad news.
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Mar 3, 2019 00:07
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Solice Kirsk posted:Tony really is completely reprehensible through the entire run. Some of the best are the blatant lies he tells to Carm and Gandolfini manages to make it seem like Tony can barely get the lie out without looking worried she might not believe him.
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Mar 3, 2019 03:25
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Narzack posted:It's kinda like that scene where the women are at some speaking event thing, and they get all offended that people think Italians are mobsters. Beautiful stuff . I love how terrified that witness was and how fast they panicked when they read that he identified Tony Soprano and completely flipped on their being good people attempt. Someone on these forums once said that was written in by Chase to mock all those viewer suburnites who idolized Tony and thought he was actually a good guy
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Mar 4, 2019 04:32
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Basebf555 posted:He is sympathetic because you do get the idea that he really was never cut out for that life but ends up more or less forced into it due to circumstances. Even moreso once he's married to Janice. Sympathetic doesn't mean he's a good person of course, for the reasons you point out. He always wanted to be a good man, a good husband, good father etc. but his dad was a legendary mob hitman and he was the heir so he went into the life like he was expected to. Being mocked for not cheating on his wife gives you an idea of how much of a saint he was compared to literally everyone else.
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Mar 5, 2019 03:13
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I still love that the pilot has Tony as the boss of the family and then they just pretended like Jackie was the boss the whole time when the show started.
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Mar 11, 2019 02:00
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Basebf555 posted:Yea poo poo like that is what happens when the writer/creator of the show has no clear vision and doesn't understand character development. The audience notices when you spend hours and hours building up characters as conflicted good guys, and then jump tracks as soon as it's convenient into having them mass execute people and causing ridiculous amounts of collateral damage to the community. Then when the show is coming to an end you want to have people buy into your sad sack Jesus fantasy, gently caress off Sutter. At one point the Sons walk into a room, kill 3 people including a preacher, then go "whoopsie wrong room" and walk out like it's no big deal. The later attempts for teary eyes remose when having to decide on the fate of another member fall completely flat.
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Mar 13, 2019 05:23
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Jerusalem posted:I'm sure after they killed 3 people including a preacher accidentally, Jax sat on the roof and read his dad's journal and happened to find an entry that started,"Well this one time I accidentally killed 3 people including a preacher, and here's how I came through that okay...." Season 1 and 2 were really good and worked well because the overall theme was something like Hamlet but meant to evoke a sort of Shakespearean feel. That falls off when then they go to Ireland for whatever reason and Jax finds out he has a half sister. Kurt Sutter wanted to have them gently caress in the show for drama and was apparently talked down from it.
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Mar 13, 2019 07:37
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"Cunnilingus and psychiatry brought us to this"
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Mar 13, 2019 23:49
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Jerusalem posted:This is loving incredible Him going after Adriana is near the top of the list. He's got like 15+ years on her, she's dating a mafia associate, etc. If it was set in 2019 he'd be posting those dumb ideas on reddit asking for advice on how to make it work next time.
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Mar 18, 2019 04:58
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JethroMcB posted:I don't know if the whole scene counts, but I think this is my favorite moment: From a massive legacy of great acting that is still one of his best moments. As the viewer before the camera turns you immediately know this is major endgame level stuff going down and you have no idea how far its reaching.
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Mar 18, 2019 19:54
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banned from Starbucks posted:Tony sure gets away with hitting a lot of made men. Literally the only time it gets referenced is when Ralphie gets a beating. Even when Johnny Sac beats up that guy it doesnt even get a mention.
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Mar 21, 2019 21:40
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Artie crossed a line when he beat up that one guy who was scamming his restaurant but even then Tony had his back before the follow up petty b.s. Artie even technically came out way ahead with that $50k loan he lost in exchange for clearing Tony's tab. Sure it was scummy as hell for Tony but any other situation Artie wouldve basically ruined his life. Plus we got to see the face of someone who suddenly realizes Furio is there to destroy them. pentyne fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Mar 24, 2019 |
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Mar 24, 2019 22:38
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It was an independent Family with a Boss, something that even got mentioned as pissing off Carmine Sr. when he called them a glorified crew but still had to treat them like a separate Family.
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Mar 26, 2019 18:20
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Dawgstar posted:Oh man, is that's the first time Tim Daily's character shows up. Chris turning the AA stuff around on J.T.'s gambling addiction was always funny. When J.T starts talking to Chris about how he never enjoyed games of chance before, but now there's this unexplainable rush and excitement from playing, Chris pauses and looks at him silently, knowing exactly what is going on and where it will lead, but says nothing and distracts him by saying he smoked some pot just to see if he could be normal.
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Mar 28, 2019 01:46
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"A pint of blood cost more then a gallon of gold" The writing for Carmine Jr. was truly inspired.
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Apr 1, 2019 20:53
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Ginny Sack's so fat, two guys could gently caress her at the same time and STILL never meet. Whats everybody laughing about?
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Apr 12, 2019 22:15
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He wants to gently caress her?
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Apr 12, 2019 23:36
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Kevyn posted:Tony gave Furio that job specifically to “test” his savagery because he was acting all fruity at the party with the baby talk and the AMC. After seeing him smack around a small child in Naples for setting off firecrackers? I figured it was because he knew how savage he was and that massage pimp was the perfect target to get the word out. Chris had let things go far enough to where the fear and respect was slipping. When he tried to make excuses it came off as more of the "sorry for being late T" mentality he had about everything else. Saying he didnt know what Tony wanted him to do was just another problem where Tony has to say "Chris take a gun and shoot the guy to teach him a lesson" to get his implication across and thats dangerous talk for him to have to constantly be saying. pentyne fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Apr 14, 2019 |
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Apr 14, 2019 23:54
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Its more that Chris has no problem escalating violence when he's acting out in a risky and childish manner. He could've broken the pimp's arm easily and that wouldve solved it. Most of his unsolicited uses of violence in the show, mostly towards Adrianna, are about him losing his temper and taking something personally. Ironic that Tony does the same and doesnt face any actual consequences(also doesnt beat his wife)
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Apr 16, 2019 00:16
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:One of my favorite lines is Jackie Jr. saying he wants to be in the business of men's suits- but not the "faggy" part, but rather just to "be Hugo Boss"- it's almost endearing in its stupidity. The actor really nailed the role. In between the attempts to sound tough and his enormously slimy attitude towards Meadow in everything he did he came off as a weak spoiled brat with delusions of being a made guy. The way he walked and carried himself even screamed weakness, like someone desperately trying to look tougher then he is. The dialogue was a major part, but that one scene where Jackie has his "sit-down" is just beautiful for the posture and body language alone.
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Apr 23, 2019 20:02
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Mahoning posted:Believe it or not, that is actually the actor who plays Jackie Jr’s little brother playing Jackie Jr in that episode/scene. I actually did not believe you so I checked.  Still think it's possibly one of those "female street shark" online myths.
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Apr 23, 2019 22:09
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Dawgstar posted:I've read some interesting articles on how The Godfather changed even the Mafia's perception of itself. They thought they were supposed to be these super-rich dudes inside giant compounds and draw a lot of attention to themselves and they never got that clashed with like everything else they did. Gotti was probably the apex, or maybe his nincompoop son. According to a mob documentary on Amazon Prime before the Donnie Brasco undercover op brought the mob to light the NY police basically couldn't prove the mob even remotely existed much less tie people to crimes. In the 50s/60s omerta was a big deal, people kept their mouths shut, and informants couldn't get any useful info. Fast forward 2 decades and suddenly mob bosses want to be public figures and be on TV, write books, etc.
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Apr 25, 2019 02:00
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The part right after he talks about going to a ranch he immediately mentions how close Las Vegas is and how Tony should come hang out sometime. Its one of those few moments when Tony looks sorry for what Dave is going to put himself through.
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Apr 25, 2019 17:14
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My favorite detail is that if Davy hadn't been there the vaunted Executive Game would've made maybe 35k in profit. Doesnt sound like such a massive win when you look at it that way. Sure its a lot of money for 2 days but even 5-10k of that was Sil playing to keep the game going.
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Apr 27, 2019 20:18
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ozza posted:Boy does that music make me laugh every time. Such a strong little scene that tells you everything you need to know about these characters in a few seconds. It was either that music or NPR, which probably would've cost a lot more.
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May 3, 2019 15:54
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I love that scene because the crew doesn't even remotely know that Italy has local cultural/regional feuds.
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May 6, 2019 22:33
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Jerusalem posted:But nevermind that, because here's one of the most amazing scenes the show has ever done. It features Mr. Arthur, the resolute citizen from the start of the episode. I won't bother describing the scene because words simply don't do it justice: This is one of the most frequent scenes I've seen mentioned. I've heard hearsay that after season 1 David Chase was getting so disgusted with people telling him how much they loved Tony Soprano and what a great guy he was and that was the basis for that scene; middle class people fascinated with cinematic violence who poo poo their pants at a hint of real life crime involving them.
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May 7, 2019 20:13
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Your Gay Uncle posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqE7ZxH7BJE Still surprised to this day Will Sasso never exploded into a comedy/movie career. Kevin James is pretending to be a CIA agent in Columbia and Sasso is getting bit parts every job he gets.
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May 12, 2019 00:02
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Feech was on borrowed time because he did not give a gently caress about the younger guys and lost his poo poo on Paulie over a tree trimming collection business. The casual disregard to Tony aside, he kept running his mouth and talking like he was real bigshot mafia guy.
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May 13, 2019 21:46
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Basebf555 posted:Not so terrible if you get 5 or 6 meals out of it. Unless Father Intintola comes over to slip your wife a cracker.
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May 23, 2019 19:19
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No Wave posted:I think it's more crass than that. He killed Chris because he was mad at him and he just didn't like him anymore. Tony's so far gone at that point. It solved a ton of problems all at once though. Chris had more dirt on Tony then everyone else combined and was one bad arrest away from being able to not only tie up Tony with the Feds but then implicate Tony in killing Ralphie and Ritchie, which would've caused major inter-family problems beyond worrying about a "rat".
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May 24, 2019 01:41
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Kevyn posted:“I’ll speak if I want to, goddamnit! Who are you, minister of propaganda?” That and his birthday party. A gaggle of snobbish uppity Italians who can't stop themselves from trying to be above it all and constantly disrespecting their host.
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May 24, 2019 16:49
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No Wave posted:Would it have been bad for tony to kill the guy who violently raped Melfi though? Yes. Vigilante justice is bad. Not even taking into account that Tony has killed people for trivial reasons, being able to have the moral strength to turn down that chance for vengeance is a fundamental difference between Melfi and Tony. Some people have a code and will stick to it, some people just act like they are above it but would compromise themselves in an instant.
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May 30, 2019 16:26
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No Wave posted:I didnt like the melfi rape. It's this incredibly horrible thing done to one of the main characters in the most savage way possible for this tiny piece of characterization that has vety little importance to the series. Wont be a popular opinion. You would be hard pressed to find a more definitive moment in the Melfi/Tony relationship dynamic then her saying "No" after everything we saw in the episode. Since S1 she danced around whether or not she was seeing him for the right reasons, was fascinated by him etc. and finally after all that, her drinking, her therapy, she finally makes clear her ethical stance.
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May 31, 2019 17:56
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Escobarbarian posted:I’m still very behind in this thread because I’m reading Jerusalem’s recaps along with my rewatch (loving these by the way man, great work!!) as well as The Sopranos Sessions, but I had to pop in to say I just got to 205 and “What are you doing? You’re dropping your fuckin oranges” is one of the funniest lines this show ever did That's not even the funniest line about oranges. "I like the one that says some pulp"
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Jun 2, 2019 04:53
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No Wave posted:She would be fielding marriage proposals by half her customers at the bing. There is no end to young attractive girls who get abused and exploited by similar age or older men. Appearance means nothing, human beings still fall prey to the manipulations of others and end up in abusive and dangerous situations regardless of age, ethnicity, background, gender, etc you name ot. Is marrying/dating a guy who falls in love with a stripper somehow suppose to be better then a lovely mob psycho? You are acting like a physical appearence is some societal benchmark for a certain quality of life.
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Jun 5, 2019 21:46
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Solice Kirsk posted:Hell, the scene where the cops are interrogating the pizza guys could have straight up been out of a Police Squad episode. "Technically sir, you're an accessory after the fact"
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Dawgstar posted:Nah, he's remembered. Mostly by Phil when somebody bringing him up puts an end to a sit down between Phil and Tony. "your brother, whatever happened there..."
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Jun 22, 2019 18:17
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