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Angie also took over the autobody shop and started loan sharking and buying/selling stolen parts for the mob by the end. It got under Carmela's skin that she couldn't rub her nose into her Porsche because Angie worked and bought a Corvette for herself. What a great show.
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Narzack posted:One of the great things about the show, at least for me, was that at the start, Carmella was kind of sympathetic character. But, bloody hell, by the end, you realize she's as despicable as any of them. And the opposite happened for Meadow where she was a completely spoiled entitled arrogant teenager and turned into a successful intelligent independent woman. Hell, she may be the one to support the rest of the terrible family once Tony winds up dead or in jail since the other two are almost completely useless at taking care of themselves.
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Everyone knew what "went into witness protection" meant. It's seriously only Jackie Jr and Adriana that didn't. Maybe the younger kids wouldn't get it, but besides those few examples everyone gets that they were killed, they just didn't want to know by who/why.
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I think one of the better brief storylines was when Gene was trying to get out of the life to save his son/family and retire and both the government and the family refused to let him go. Killing himself really was the best solution to the problem to get his son help and his family far away from all the problems.
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Mar 2, 2019 18:02
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Tony really is completely reprehensible through the entire run.
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When he almost pointed out the fingernail she found was some other woman he was cheating on her with instead of the Russian is a great acting moment. He held back and you can see this look of "yeah, I got her on this one" wash over his face even though he's still caught.
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Janice is such an amazingly well written character. There's just absolutely nothing redeeming in her at all.
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Ginette Reno posted:Even when he does something that seems nice like not wanting Vito dead there's still a motive there. He likes that Vito brings him in a lot of money, and he hates doing what anyone else tells him to do. And he did it because Carmela put it into his head that Chris was going to betray him. Sure, he internalized it as saving Chris' daughter, but then had that dream where he laid out exactly why he did it to Melfi. Man, I should finish the rewatch I started awhile ago. Season 5 and 6 is always when I stall out, but there is a lot of good stuff in there.
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The_dude_abides posted:"Fat gently caress? You should try looking in the mirror some time you insensitive cocksucker!" The way he went from a constant target of Tony's abuse to his inner circle, even underboss, was an interesting character transition. Given the kind of guy he is, would he even have been in the mafia without his old man's influence? There were scenes where he showed his dark side (Like threatening the union rep in the bar), but he had a big heart. Bobby was pretty good. Adriana was another one. Pretty much everyone else was some form of rear end in a top hat. Finn was pretty much OK. Good he got out of there when he saw his fiance was leaning more and more towards mob life.
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Mar 5, 2019 03:19
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Not to mention the upcoming arrest and prosecution of Tony that they set up in that episode as well. So no matter what happened in that diner he was going away. He always said there was only two ways it ended for guys like him, and I liked that they left it open to either.
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Mar 6, 2019 14:47
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The whole episode is great. That's the one where she decides that $50k is what she wants instead of finding her own happiness/redemption away from blood money right?
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Mar 7, 2019 02:32
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Do it. I'm thinking about finishing my rewatch and I want an excuse to talk about how I think Tony really did kill Ralph because of the horse and not because of the dead girl (Tracy?).
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Mar 7, 2019 03:03
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"loving queers!" *throws chair at ghosts
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Pretty much this whole scene is great. Paulie being himself, Tony getting more and more flustered, followed immediately by Tony making one of the few actually funny jokes he makes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2LpILuko7w
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Mar 19, 2019 05:02
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Beating up the dude that messed with Meadow is what started the end game war.
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Mar 21, 2019 21:59
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I had never heard of those before and still think the show invented them.
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Artie is basically Tony's only real friend in the world and I think he holds onto that for the same selfish reasons he holds on to Carmela. He lets Artie get away with tons of poo poo even in public. Even against other made guys.
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Kevyn posted:I’m early in season 3 on my rewatch and that weird rewinding thing when Tony faints after talking to Noah is a pretty dumb editing choice too. Just wait for the slow mo sweep fade moment when Carmela tells the teacher she's going back to Tony. edit: La Parma rules. That, Volare, and Club Lucky are my favorite Italian places to take visiting friends. Solice Kirsk fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Mar 25, 2019 |
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Ha, I read that and for some reason it didn't click that we were talking about the same thing. I thought Cold Cuts was really early in the show.
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La Scarola was the place I was thinking of in Chicago. I'm just not reading well at all in this thread today.
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Midgetskydiver posted:Tony really did fit the profile for sociopaths only having occasional empathy for babies and animals. I think it really was the branch through the car seat that sealed Chris's fate. That's also why I think it really was the horse that he killed Ralph over. Everything he was saying could have applied to Tracey, but he didn't care about her the same way he cared about the horse.
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Phil actually locked everything down and kept it professional up until Vito "disgraced" his cousin. And then pretty much had it wrapped up again until Little Carmine runs his mouth at a sit down and brings up Tony B all over again. At least, I'm pretty sure that's when he tells Butchy "no more Butchy...no more." edit: Man, forgot how good the ending to that episode was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLrlIpoQfQg Solice Kirsk fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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Sambuca is terrible. And I can drink copious amounts of Malort.
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That was in the last season when Tony starts to tear down their friendship because he doesn't want to pay Hesh back. I can't remember, but I think the only reason he does eventually pay him back is because Hesh's wife dies and Tony just gives him the money and says "sorry" and walks out unphased. I always liked Hesh's character. He's just as big of an rear end in a top hat as the rest of the crew, but he's smarter and keeps his head lower so has way more success.
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Apr 3, 2019 14:46
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Wasn't Livia based on David Chase's mother?
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Apr 12, 2019 00:37
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They don't harp on it, but they do mention a few times that John doesn't cheat on Ginny. They don't make fun of him for it like they do Bobby, but talk about how they feel like he looks down on them for cheating.
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Ooooh! John!
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Apr 12, 2019 21:56
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If they had written one page of Moby Dick on the back of cereal boxes and every month ship out a different one then I may have actually been able to get through that loving tome. To this day it's the only book besides Mary Gentle's Grunts that I can't force myself to finish.
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I don't know about that. I bet if that guy and his family didn't pull up right then he would have followed through with running away with her. I don't think they would have made it as a couple that didn't have mob backing/income, but I think he would have went through with it if he had stayed home or that didn't happen. The fact that he never really shows the same interest in any women through the rest of the show, even his wife, kinda makes me think that was it for him.
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Apr 24, 2019 13:46
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But he would have been able to focus on his writing finally.
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The fact that no one is safe from him with the exception of his immediate family is one of the most frightening things about his character. I can't think of any of his "family" that he didn't consider killing at some point. Maaaaaybe SIlvio, but I think there was a moment in the Tony B saga where he threatened him.
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Besides Artie, I think Sil is the closest thing to a friend Tony has.
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Apr 27, 2019 01:46
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So can someone please answer just how much baked ziti it will cost me to get into heaven?
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Borrowed Ladder posted:How much money does Tony have, roughly? He gives the lawyer 400k for Carmella, which doesn't seem like that much based on their life. He gives Beansie 50k. A few episodes after this he won't give meadow's school 50k, but he has 5k In his pocket!I In a later season Hesh says he doubts if Tony has 1m to his name because of how he spends and gambles.
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May 8, 2019 03:58
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Wasn't that his way of dealing with Chris?
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May 8, 2019 13:50
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They ended it with a clip show. Seinfeld was good though.
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Dawgstar posted:Does Livia show up in the next episode? If she doesn't, and had they avoided that CGI... attempt in the first episode of season three, that would have been the perfect last shot of her. I think she does. Tony gives her plane tickets to get her away from him and it backfires.
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Did any of the guys that did a long stretch ever re-acclimate successfully? edit: I guess Phil did alright.
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Season two was always my favorite. Just everything about it flowed together and really solidified the characters and their motivations. Everyone kind of sticks to their lanes from here on in with the exception of Chris, but that ends about how you'd expect that late in the series. And even with everyone moving forward, but remaining the same, it feels like all the characters keep growing. It really is an amazing show.
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Is that based on the fact that they were both in the military during WW2? Hell, Junior may be his real dad then.
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