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| Joe "the liberal who fights busing" Biden |
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27 | 1.40% |
| Bernie "please don't die" Sanders |
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1017 | 52.69% |
| Cory "charter schools" Booker |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Kirsten "wall street" Gillibrand |
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24 | 1.24% |
| Kamala "truancy queen" Harris |
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59 | 3.06% |
| Julian "who?" Castro |
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7 | 0.36% |
| Tulsi "gay panic" Gabbard |
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25 | 1.30% |
| Michael "crimes crimes crimes" Avenatti |
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22 | 1.14% |
| Sherrod "discount bernie" Brown |
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21 | 1.09% |
| Amy "horrible boss" Klobuchar |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Tammy "stands for america" Duckworth |
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48 | 2.49% |
| Beto "whataburger" O'Rourke |
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32 | 1.66% |
| Elizabeth "instagram beer" Warren |
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284 | 14.72% |
| Tom "impeach please" Steyer |
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4 | 0.21% |
| Michael "soda is the devil" Bloomberg |
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9 | 0.47% |
| Joseph Stalin |
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287 | 14.87% |
| Howard "coffee republican" Schultz |
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10 | 0.52% |
Jay "nobody cares about climate change  " Inslee |
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13 | 0.67% |
| Pete "gently caress the homeless" Butt Man |
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17 | 0.88% |
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This is a continuation of an argument from a few days ago. No one is arguing to not let idiot conservative D's in SC (or chuds for that matter) vote. The argument was to move the primary back to reduce their ability to influence the national primary and drive the party rightward.
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Ok but really, why does SC hate Sanders so much? It's not one group of voters.
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mcmagic posted:This is a continuation of an argument from a few days ago. No one is arguing to not let idiot conservative D's in SC (or chuds for that matter) vote. The argument was to move the primary back to reduce their ability to influence the national primary and drive the party rightward. well then next time say that instead of saying you want to disenfranchise a bunch of black voters because they don't behave the way you want? mcmagic posted:Disenfranchise south Carolina and nuke it.
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Jun 25, 2019 21:29
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nobody over 70 should be able to vote, because they have no loving skin in the game. gently caress em. i don't want baby boomers to destroy our entire future.
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Jun 25, 2019 21:30
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Trabisnikof posted:well then next time say that instead of saying you want to disenfranchise a bunch of black voters because they don't behave the way you want? Chillax dude. People engage in hyberpole on the internet sometimes.... Typical Pubbie posted:Ok but really, why does SC hate Sanders so much? It's not any one group of voters. Because they are way to the rightward of the center of gravity of the party right now. And because they have zero impact on the general election, they have too much power in the primary.
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VitalSigns posted:I used to believe in democracy, but it's pretty clear democracy is a broken failure of a system that can never work, and our only hope is a vanguard force of shitposters We don't really have democracy though? Then again... https://www.politico.com/2020-election/democratic-presidential-candidates/polls/ The #2 choice of Biden supporters is Sanders, and the #2 choice of Sanders supporters is Biden, lolwuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut It's still all just name recognition at this point
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Jun 25, 2019 21:40
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sean10mm posted:We don't really have democracy though? In general that's a really good sign for Bernie. If someone can mortally wound Biden in the first debate, a good chunk of that will go to sanders, and warren, leaving the more centrist candidates in the dust.
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Jun 25, 2019 21:42
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you already said Warren you don’t need to repeat centrists again . Bernie or bust
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Typical Pubbie posted:Ok but really, why does SC hate Sanders so much? It's not one group of voters. Given Bernie's positions on unions, and South Carolina's historical stance on the Union, weeeeeelll....
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Typical Pubbie posted:Ok but really, why does SC hate Sanders so much? It's not one group of voters. African-Americans primary voters have historically aligned with establishment white moderates over white liberal/left challengers from the Northeast. The younger generation doesn't seem to do this nearly as much, but the primary electorate continues to be really old Typo fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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Jun 25, 2019 22:27
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Not supporting Bernie isn't nearly as problematic as the bind support of Biden.
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Jun 25, 2019 22:32
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mcmagic posted:Not supporting Bernie isn't nearly as problematic as the bind support of Biden. I'm sure you tell yourself that a lot.
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Jun 25, 2019 22:35
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Name recognition, default centrist candidate, plus a "friend of Barack" The dude's a walking gaffe machine, can't see how it isn't all downside from here on out
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Trabisnikof posted:I'm sure you tell yourself that a lot. I do, in fact, support Bernie. So no i don't. But it's still true.
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Jun 25, 2019 22:37
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mcmagic posted:. . . support Bernie . . . no i don't
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So what else should be in that proposal that currently isn't? It already seems to have nationwide AVR and same day registration as well as making election day a federal holiday, and mandatory re-enfranchisement after leaving jail. Getting rid of felony dis-enfranchisement while in jail? Mandatory availability of absentee ballots?
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The Glumslinger posted:So what else should be in that proposal that currently isn't? It already seems to have nationwide AVR and same day registration as well as making election day a federal holiday, and mandatory re-enfranchisement after leaving jail. Getting rid of felony dis-enfranchisement while in jail? Mandatory availability of absentee ballots? exactly what the federal standards are isn't explicit, but it says mandating early voting and voting by mail so i think that absentee part is therefore already included ending states' ability to disenfranchise felons will take a constitutional amendment (and, to be fair, several other elements of warren's proposals also risk being invalidated by a hostile supreme court, but they're not so crazy that the loss is like automatic or anything) eke out fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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Jun 25, 2019 22:47
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Can you make an image the thread title because lmao
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol warren's plan is #4 on reddit and all the posts are about the voting machine security aspect. we're so hosed well dang she's got the all-important early state of reddit sewn up Typical Pubbie posted:Ok but really, why does SC hate Sanders so much? It's not one group of voters. white dems in sc are succ incarnate. the people currently in leadership all they've ever known is trying to stanch the bleeding from the post-civil rights realignment he actually does okay in polling among black voters, but they're rightfully skeptical at this point of his chances. his challenge there as it is elsewhere is turning out younger and previously non-interested voters The Muppets On PCP fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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Punk da Bundo posted:nobody over 70 should be able to vote, because they have no loving skin in the game. gently caress em. i don't want baby boomers to destroy our entire future.
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mcmagic posted:Disenfranchise south Carolina and nuke it.
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Jun 25, 2019 23:37
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Reddit is a worthless barometer. Twitter way more important.
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If you tolerate nested comment structure that gets sorted by upvotes you're already one of the most basic motherfuckers on the entire internet even before longform posting epic bacon reddit goodsir style gets into it. At least Twitter has the dignity of a good old fashioned moshpit.
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Nonsense posted:Reddit is worthless, Twitter way more.
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Typo posted:African-Americans primary voters have historically aligned with establishment white moderates over white liberal/left challengers from the Northeast. http://www.millsaps.edu/_resources/documents/2019-june-millsaps-chism-pre-debate-survey.pdf quote:Former Vice President Joe Biden holds a commanding lead among Mississippi Democratic voters as the first televised presidential primary debates are scheduled for the evenings of June 26-27. According to the findings from a new Millsaps College/Chism Strategies Pre-Debate Survey, 50% of likely Democratic 2020 primary election voters in Mississippi favor Biden while 21% are undecided. Another 29% are divided between the other 23 Democratic presidential hopefuls. United States Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders receive 7% each, Senator Kamala Harris receives 5%, and South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg is at 2%. All other candidates receive less than 2% support in the survey. Mississippi poll Biden 50% Warren 7% Sanders 7% Harris 5% Buttigieg 2% Goddamn
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Jun 25, 2019 23:55
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Bernie, or bust
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JesusSinfulHands posted:http://www.millsaps.edu/_resources/documents/2019-june-millsaps-chism-pre-debate-survey.pdf Yikes. Bernie getting crushed in the South again seems very possible. If I'm reading correctly, Bernie only has 4% of the black vote there.
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crazy cloud posted:Bernie, or bust More like Bernie or Death. Like, from Climate Change, War, Corporate Greed, etc.
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This is, not good. I'm switching my support to buttman.
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LinYutang posted:Yikes. Bernie getting crushed in the South again seems very possible. If I'm reading correctly, Bernie only has 4% of the black vote there. If Biden's relative strength is in red states, that will help others in the final delegate math. Delegate allotment is based not just on population but on the number of democrats in the state too. So Mississippi has 3M people and 41 delegates total, versus Nevada with 3M people and 48 delegates or New Mexico with 2M people and 39 delegates. Its why Texas is 50% as important as California for delegates.
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Biden is the last major Dixiecrat and he is going to win the south in the primaries off the back of it
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I also have zero issues with Bernie being crushed in the south. Enough of this place. Enough.
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Feldegast42 posted:Biden is the last major Dixiecrat and he is going to win the south in the primaries off the back of it He's not going to make it FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Jun 26, 2019 |
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kind of an aside but if it wasn't for the early primary status, the sc democratic party wouldn't exist at the state level
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The Muppets On PCP posted:kind of an aside but if it wasn't for the early primary status, the sc democratic party wouldn't exist at the state level So? It doesn't exist in the General Election either.
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https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/25/joe-biden-2020-democrats-1380317 After hearing about Biden’s comments on working with multiple segregationists, 41 percent of likely primary voters said it would make no difference to them and 29 percent said they would be more likely to vote for him. Just 18 percent said they would be less likely to vote for him. The numbers were about the same for black voters: 30 percent said they would be more likely to vote for Biden, 20 percent said less likely and 27 percent said it made no difference.
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LinYutang posted:https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/25/joe-biden-2020-democrats-1380317 What are your thoughts on this LinYutang?
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