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| Joe "the liberal who fights busing" Biden |
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27 | 1.40% |
| Bernie "please don't die" Sanders |
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1017 | 52.69% |
| Cory "charter schools" Booker |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Kirsten "wall street" Gillibrand |
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24 | 1.24% |
| Kamala "truancy queen" Harris |
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59 | 3.06% |
| Julian "who?" Castro |
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7 | 0.36% |
| Tulsi "gay panic" Gabbard |
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25 | 1.30% |
| Michael "crimes crimes crimes" Avenatti |
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22 | 1.14% |
| Sherrod "discount bernie" Brown |
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21 | 1.09% |
| Amy "horrible boss" Klobuchar |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Tammy "stands for america" Duckworth |
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48 | 2.49% |
| Beto "whataburger" O'Rourke |
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32 | 1.66% |
| Elizabeth "instagram beer" Warren |
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284 | 14.72% |
| Tom "impeach please" Steyer |
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4 | 0.21% |
| Michael "soda is the devil" Bloomberg |
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9 | 0.47% |
| Joseph Stalin |
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287 | 14.87% |
| Howard "coffee republican" Schultz |
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10 | 0.52% |
Jay "nobody cares about climate change  " Inslee |
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13 | 0.67% |
| Pete "gently caress the homeless" Butt Man |
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17 | 0.88% |
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Majorian posted:Sanders hasn't announced that he's running yet, Clinton hasn't made any really serious signals that she's running, and I haven't heard the thing about the DNC not allowing Bernie to run as a Democrat. I don't think they'd do that, because not even they're that stupid. Let's not say things we might not be able to take back.
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Feb 1, 2019 19:53
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Condiv posted:does that have anything to do with this poo poo i saw yesterday? That's a whole lotta words for "stay deep in the closet! Don't bother us! gently caress you!"
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Feb 21, 2019 00:23
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yronic heroism posted:Yeah, I’m not sure an alternative Vermont paper is where the Man would shop his anti-Bernie whisper campaign. Also it’s from 2015 so whatever else it may be it’s not really a new allegation. Bernie and Seven Days have, what's the best way to put things, a contentious relationship that does not incline the latter to always be as responsible as perhaps they ought be with stories concerning the former.
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Feb 21, 2019 01:40
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Trabisnikof posted:Sure, but now we’ve shifted from “sanders promised and then didn’t do it” to “Sanders promised and did do it, but didn’t do enough years for my preferences” which is a vastly different standard. "And why did it take him this long to release them, hmmm? Clearly, he's hiding something!"
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Feb 27, 2019 01:57
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Radish posted:Yeah that Pelosi clap thing is what tells me even the #resistence types are done with the idea of decorum bipartisanship even if they disagree with the left of what they want to pursue. Right now they are in denile and think Pelosi and Feinstein have any interest in doing real opposition so they are yelling at children for being Russian bots or leftist agitators getting in the way of the work against Trump. Speaking of Pelosi being horrible...
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Mar 1, 2019 18:53
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Because it is And deservedly so.
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Mar 2, 2019 18:34
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Cerebral Bore posted:Good job on her part exposing the thing he literally said he'd do in his speech. Real A+ sleuthing here. Given her questionable command of the English language, it's kind of impressive she was able to manage even that.
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Mar 4, 2019 17:18
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Cerebral Bore posted:You're not talking about half the country, you're talking about 25% of the country because half the country didn't vote. You win elections by turning out your own base, not by chasing some moderate GOP phantom. See also Chuck Schumer's brilliant electoral predictions from 2016.
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Mar 12, 2019 22:57
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Freakazoid_ posted:It completely sucks that a candidate who's main thrust has been an UBI ends up having a background that can't be trusted. I like his meme game, but ultimately it's 4chan wanking over the thought of being paid to shitpost about their terrible politics. Including means testing into social legislation, however graduated, is to build in a self-destruct feature that sooner or later conservatives will use to kill it off entirely.
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Mar 13, 2019 01:57
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Verviticus posted:from the previous page: are there any policies imaginable or in recorded american history where means-testing is or was a positive component No. Means testing exists solely to satisfy the self-righteous prejudices of middle class morons and to cripple social programs so that the rich don't have to grow richer at a slightly slower rate.
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Mar 13, 2019 13:51
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Typo posted:I'll be honest I must have fallen behind in my Marxist readings but I have no idea what you are trying to say or what this has to do with the post you are quoting Kill your father.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:32
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SeANMcBAY posted:We need to demonize Democrats saying “affordable” healthcare. What the gently caress does it even mean anyway. Affordable to who? Usually it means not inconveniencing the rich.
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Mar 23, 2019 21:39
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Failed Imagineer posted:Yes, that's the stuff The Muppets On PCP posted:lol it's like oocc and prester jane had a kid Ruckby posted:This combination of citing your external posts, reverence for misused buzzwords, and irrelevant call-outs of obscure public figures, combined with liberally sprinkled misspellings, is incredible. You're the ur-poster. Have...have none of you ever encounter BrandorKPosting before?
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Mar 26, 2019 22:51
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Maybe not? I haven't either. Why, should we have heard of them? Why does it matter? Failed Imagineer posted:I guess I need to update posters.xlsx. But no, I don't really keep track of posters if I don't regularly see them in one of the few threads I post in Without meaning to derail the thread with posts about posters and posting, Brandor has, what's a polite way to put it, a unique posting style that often assumes definitions for common terms differing from that which are usually accepted. This often becomes particularly noticeable in conversations concerning the more abstract or theoretical, especially linkable to theological concepts.
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Mar 26, 2019 23:30
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Main Paineframe posted:I don't want to hear any Green New Deal criticism from the people who have spent the last four-plus decades undermining the cause. Scientific studies were talking about human-caused climate change leading to rising temperatures and potential climate disaster in the loving 1970s. Climate scientists testified about it on the floor of Congress in the later half of the 1980s. "Global warming" has been public knowledge since before AOC was even born, yet America has done precisely fuckall about it. Boomers and Gen Xers can take their criticisms and complaints and shove them up their own collective asses. This. One of my earliest memories is hearing a song about the dangers of pollution and global warming on loving Sesame Street in the early 80s. This has been a known, potentially civilization-ruining problem for virtually my entire life and virtually never has anyone in a position to do anything about it taken it remotely seriously enough.
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Mar 28, 2019 22:59
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Skex posted:Love how you pull examples from centuries ago and ignore that some poo poo has happened since then and ideologies have shifted and evolved. Said the poster who cited extensive 20th and 19th century examples as his basis for "actually, liberals good!"
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Mar 29, 2019 00:46
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Majorian posted:That's really unlikely. Reagan "won the Cold War," as far as a lot of Americans are concerned. (they're wrong to believe this, but hey, try telling them that) I tell their college age children that, every semester when whatever relevant survey I'm teaching gets to the 80s. 
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Mar 31, 2019 04:50
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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:Fox gonna have Donna Brazile do the Townhall to troll everybody And again leak the questions ahead of time to Hillary, for some reason.
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Apr 3, 2019 23:39
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Kraftwerk posted:If Bernie wins could there be some kind of centrist rebellion within the Democratic party to try to marginalize his power- or would they fall in line and kiss the ring the way the Republicans did with Trump? Some will scream and set themselves on metaphorically on fire, but most will pretend they'd been in his corner the whole time ala French newspaper headlines after Napoleon escaped from Elba. Fritz Coldcockin posted:Tom Perez is many things, stupid isn't one of them. Let's not say things we might not be able to take back.
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Apr 7, 2019 19:42
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Regarding the question asked last page about Biden not announcing, I suspect that in addition to wanting the gropey Joe stuff to blow over (it won't), he also was previously waiting on the field growing to the point where negative attacks would begin, thus to better sail in as the Elder Statesman Above the Fray/Sole Adult In the Room. Unfortunately for him, that cover dissipated with even a minute's investigation, and Bernie's already stolen most the wind from those sails
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Apr 9, 2019 22:47
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mcmagic posted:Well they had both anchors spouting GOP talking points. And he kicked their asses.
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Apr 16, 2019 00:43
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WampaLord posted:I just realized the brilliance of doing this on the same day he released his taxes. Which story do you think is gonna get more press? "Candidate reveals boring tax returns" or "Candidate goes to enemy turf and wins over the crowd and leaves to a standing ovation?" From tomorrow's Washington Post: "Why Winning over Hostile FOX News Town Hall Spells Trouble for Bernie's Campaign."
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Apr 16, 2019 02:09
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Radish posted:Biden is just trying to be like Reagan. So when can we expect to see him deliver a speech in front of SS graves?
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Apr 22, 2019 22:25
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Radish posted:Look sometimes you have to reach across the aisle and no one does that better than Ol' Joe. *spontaneously launches into anecdote about cordial relations had with Steve King*
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Apr 22, 2019 22:37
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Majorian posted:Oh my God, Eichenwald is Eichenwalding again: Gonna be interested to see what sort of verboten anime porn he "accidentally" stumbles across this time.
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Apr 24, 2019 20:49
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redneck nazgul posted:pretty sure he covered up his racist police force and made sure they kept their jobs He also was very selective in what neighborhoods in South Bend got regular visits from code enforcement.
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Apr 24, 2019 21:30
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VitalSigns posted:If libraries didn't already exist, neolibs would have a million objections about how they're impossible and probably immoral: To quote a certain (now banned) poster of our acquaintance: "You just can't build libraries!"
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Apr 28, 2019 00:39
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Main Paineframe posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1123376725101088768 He's really old and staggeringly out of touch.
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May 1, 2019 14:10
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It wasn't so much that Hillary is a bad speaker per se, but rather that she either couldn't or didn't bother to fully conceal her contempt for the audience and how much she felt put upon to have to waste time speaking to the proles.Groovelord Neato posted:after bernie brought up her being friends with kissinger her comeback was so loving lame. "Well sure, I may take foreign policy advice from war criminals, but I can't help but notice that you do not!"
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May 1, 2019 20:55
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Vegetable posted:Biden strikes me as a guy who would oppose Medicare For All but wouldn’t have any idea about what to do instead. Guy’s hardly a policy wonk Presuming he does this, he'll likely couch it as a defense of the ACA since so much of his purported electoral strength comes from fond memories of the Obama period.
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May 1, 2019 22:53
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FlamingLiberal posted:What the hell even was this supposed Jane Sanders scandal She was President of Burlington College back in the early 2000s and as part of her administration oversaw a largeish land purchase on estimates that tuition from the growing student body would cover the costs. After she resigned her position in 2011, enrollment dropped off and school revenue tanked, leading the college to close down in 2016. The head of the VT GOP, Trump's state campaign manager, filed a complaint with the FBI that this was due to her being a dirty thief who'd used the land deal to embezzle ten million dollars, which was for some inexplicable reason taken seriously and not seen as the cheap hit job it was, but ultimately the feds closed their investigation without filing any charges.
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May 2, 2019 18:21
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Groovelord Neato posted:we've literally never had a non-christian president. have we even had a non-christian candidate? The Christianity of the first seven or so presidents was different enough from most modern faith traditions that they'd likely get slotted as agnostics or deists these days, and James Monroe was probably a full on atheist. Not that any of them really openly broke with Christian social mores and norms of the day.
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May 4, 2019 16:46
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Groovelord Neato posted:where were all these shitheads in 2016? it's his turn. A startling number of them figured they'd end up with cabinet positions in the sure-thing Clinton administration, so long as they toed the line.
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May 15, 2019 17:27
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WampaLord posted:I highly doubt that, she does not like Joe Biden. This. They have a long-running feud dating back years, and Warren's comments about who was on the side of the people versus who was on the side of credit card companies shows she's not let it go as of yet.
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May 15, 2019 18:25
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:I don't think the Republican party ever actively went out of it's way to quash and gently caress over the far-right wing of its base, the way the Democrats are with leftists. So I don't think the comparison works. They went after the Paulsheviks after 2008, but that was for primary fuckery not ideological disagreement.
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May 17, 2019 18:27
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Whatever happened to Arzy, anyways? I remember enjoying his arc of being a panicky Obama voter to being anti-Obama because Obama said mean things about bankers. I assume he ended up a Trump supporter? He came out hard for Romney and got effectively perma-probated during the 2012 election cycle.
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May 18, 2019 19:03
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Pembroke Fuse posted:I haven't watched much of the West Wing (before my time), but isn't the Democrat supposed to win using powerful FACTS and LOGIC and RHETORIC... and the Republican concedes in the face of such overwhelming debate-club nonsense? Biden slurs and stumbles through his speeches, brandishing none of the supposed characteristics of a powerful orator or fact-checker. Crime. Boy, I don't know.
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May 19, 2019 05:06
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:loving good, finally. It's not perfect but it's a thousand times better than the absolutely loving ludicrous rules previously. Yeah, this is long overdue. I lived in NY during grad school and primary voting rules there were something else.
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May 23, 2019 20:18
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Majorian posted:The tears Andrew Cuomo is undoubtedly crying right now fill my soul with warmth and joy. That is an added bonus, yes.
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May 23, 2019 20:34
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Pulcinella di Bund posted:as awful as everybody is in this election , I hate mayor Pete the most for his unwavering cowardice . He’s honestly one of the most pathetic people I’ve ever seen in my life. He may be the best the Democrats have to offer, but fortunately as certain people repeated point out, Bernie isn't even a Democrat.
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May 24, 2019 18:16
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