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General Dog posted:Jason Garrett would go 5-5-6 every year. Imagine a division filled with limp-dicked coaches that sends a 3-7-6 team to the playoffs.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The fundamental issue with overtime is that it is approached in a way that is philosophically anti-competition. It's arguably fair since if the teams are tied, they both equally deserved to win so you might as well settle it with what's basically a more exciting coin flop
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Look, you're making millions of dollars, you have 60 minutes and then also a chance to stop them on defense/hold them to a field goal. If you can't get it done then give your nuts a tug and try harder next year
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Jan 22, 2019 18:00
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sweet thursday posted:give your nuts a tug new overtime rule: 10 minute flag football game in the nude, the only way to tackle is to grab the ball carrier by the sack. no substitutions
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Don't they still do replay games for draws in single leg knockout tournaments or did that get canned because it's not practical with modern TV/event scheduling They do for the FA Cup. Not sure about others
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Jan 22, 2019 18:55
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Give each team a 2 minute drill with two time outs. The other team gets the same opportunity. If the period ends with the points tied, whoever scored faster wins the game. Then we can have the NFL-Esports rule crossover we're destined to head towards.
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Jan 22, 2019 19:00
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delete overtime and make it so the last team to score any points at all gets an extra 1 point if the score is tied at the end of regulation
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Jan 22, 2019 19:04
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Btw, College overtime is worse then the NFL one for a bunch of reasons, including that the team that wins the coinflip wins more often then in the NFL>
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Jan 22, 2019 19:07
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Kalli posted:Btw, College overtime is worse then the NFL one for a bunch of reasons, including that the team that wins the coinflip wins more often then in the NFL> No it's not. Not remotely.
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Jan 22, 2019 19:59
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College overtime is sorta like shootouts in hockey or soccer, it's a fun gimmick but one that should stay in college. and yeah the coinflip is massively important in college wyoak fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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Jan 22, 2019 20:15
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wyoak posted:and yeah the coinflip is massively important in college Yeah, in college the team that wins the coinflip plays defense then wins almost 60% of the time. Which is significantly worse then the NFL's overtime.
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Jan 22, 2019 20:20
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Convoluted things like "sudden death, but one team chooses field position and the other team chooses offense or defense" would be super fun but have a zero percent chance of actually happening. Most likely thing is just amending the first score rule to include touchdowns so that both teams are guaranteed a possession.
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Jan 22, 2019 20:22
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I think that if they made it so that both challenges can be used on ANY ruling, that the overtime rule would be totally fine just the way it is. What makes the current situation tip the scales is the fact that there are just so many protections for a team's offense from a flag-throwing perspective
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Kalli posted:Yeah, in college the team that wins the coinflip plays defense then wins almost 60% of the time. Not in the playoffs. In the playoffs it's 8-1 in favor of the coin flip winner.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Not in the playoffs. In the playoffs it's 8-1 in favor of the coin flip winner. Weird, I was told that defense wins championships.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Weird, I was told that defense wins championships. The non-snarky answer is that in the playoffs by the time people get there defenses are usually loving cooked. It's not as bad in the regular season because in the vast majority of games basically no one plays as hard as they do in the playoffs. Everyone says that all the time. Current players, former players... it's a whole different ball of wax in win or go home scenarios.
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i mean no thats the stupid answer, the actual answer is 9 games is not meaningful and you are just arbitrarily using an endpoint that makes you think you are right.
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I don't understand why it even has to be one or the other. Teams, who have both offense and defense, win championships
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SamuraiFoochs posted:The non-snarky answer is that in the playoffs by the time people get there defenses are usually loving cooked. It's not as bad in the regular season because in the vast majority of games basically no one plays as hard as they do in the playoffs. Everyone says that all the time. Current players, former players... it's a whole different ball of wax in win or go home scenarios. https://sports.theonion.com/super-bowl-veterans-much-more-prepared-for-big-games-un-1819572126
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Play posted:I don't understand why it even has to be one or the other. Teams, who have both offense and defense, win championships I'm gonna need to see the numbers on this "good teams win more games" theory before I take a side.
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Jan 22, 2019 21:11
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The Pats probably win that game in any version of the overtime rules honestly, KC defense had been on the field way too long (I heard the Pats had more running plays than the Chiefs had total plays on offense) and their offense was pretty much "Mahomes scrambles and does something cool or hope JC Jackson commits a penalty"
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Each team gets one possession, but any player that possesses the ball and is tackled is removed from the game for the remainder. Better hope you don't give up a sack.
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Jan 22, 2019 22:10
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wyoak posted:The Pats probably win that game in any version of the overtime rules honestly, KC defense had been on the field way too long (I heard the Pats had more running plays than the Chiefs had total plays on offense) and their offense was pretty much "Mahomes scrambles and does something cool or hope JC Jackson commits a penalty" I don't believe the Pats defense stopped the Chiefs once since halftime, while the Chiefs actually did stop the Pats. So I don't agree
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Play posted:I don't believe the Pats defense stopped the Chiefs once since halftime, while the Chiefs actually did stop the Pats. So I don't agree The Chiefs punted twice in the 2nd half, once in the 3rd and once in the 4th. The Patriots had a punt (3rd), missed a 4th down (early 4th) and that goofy Edelman int right after the miraculous non-punt fielding midway through the 4th.
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Current rules are perfect. Can't win off of a field goal alone and teams still have to play defense.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Current rules are perfect. Can't win off of a field goal alone and teams still have to play defense.
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wyoak posted:bbbbbut the pats didn't have to play defense WeLl ThEn Kc ShOuLd HaVe StOpPeD tHeM
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weird Asian candy posted:WeLl ThEn Kc ShOuLd HaVe StOpPeD tHeM It's extremely unfair that the Patriots won, by scoring a touchdown
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Feels Villeneuve posted:It's extremely unfair that the Patriots won, by scoring a touchdown Glad we agree
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Feels Villeneuve posted:It's extremely unfair that the Patriots won
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did someone say overtime
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Just have consecutive rounds of two point conversions, both teams attempt per round, first team with a 4 point lead at the end of a round wins.
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The rules are good as they are now. On Sunday there were two "Unstoppable" offenses. The Patriots had multiple third and longs and converted. On the other side, the Saints game showed that it is possible to stop even a potent offense. Nothing about one game or the other was inevitable, and that's what it should be. The college OT rules are weird and gimmicky.
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Each play during OT a random position gets removed from the field and cant rejoin.
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Fat Jesus posted:best of 3 pass / punt / kick between the coaches
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dphi posted:Where do blowjobs factor in?  I was really confused by this at first
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fifth quarter. nobody doubted the outcome of the super bowl or afc championship after the coin toss. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jan 23, 2019 |
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Darth Brooks posted:The rules are good as they are now. On Sunday there were two "Unstoppable" offenses. The Patriots had multiple third and longs and converted. That's exactly the problem, though? That coin flip decided the game. For right-thinking people that is an insult mikemil828 posted:Just have consecutive rounds of two point conversions, both teams attempt per round, first team with a 4 point lead at the end of a round wins. heh this is kinda a neat idea
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Play posted:That's exactly the problem, though? That coin flip decided the game. For right-thinking people that is an insult why? like I hear this all the time but if both teams equally deserved to win in regulation a coin toss legitimately seems like one of the most fair ways to resolve the game. ot is just a coin toss that's more exciting for the spectators (one actual problem with trying to get rid of randomness in OT is that if both teams are roughly equally good, a "fair" overtime has a large possibility of just ending up as a tied game again, see baseball games that go 18 innings) in any case arguing about fairness is basically useless because the whole point of overtime is to force a tied game into having a result which is fundamentally unfair anyway Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jan 23, 2019 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:why? like I hear this all the time but if both teams equally deserved to win in regulation a coin toss legitimately seems like one of the most fair ways to resolve the game. ot is just a coin toss that's more exciting for the spectators A coin toss isn't fair because it has nothing to do with football skill, obviously. OT is a football game, not a coin toss. And no two teams are exactly equal to each other; one will surpass the other if you play for any amount of time. For the SECOND period, if neither team can put themselves up, you can move on to sudden death. It's a very small change, easily made
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