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Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Heidegger is too tedious to read. What's even the point of philosophy if its going to be boring? Nothing.

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Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

glowing-fish posted:

The mass man, the man of the city, divorced from being, scampering from one event seen-through-the-eyes-of-others to another, is unable to understand the poetry of language, the language of poetry, and how they are both silent. And so he looks into Being, looks into the logos, not the logos of category, but the logos of connection, of linking, that ideas-as-thoughts-as-words-as-poetry, are what is Being-there-as-human-as-history-as-Volk, and he calls it "nothing". Because the teleology of "interest", where essence leads, through a series of hints and allegations and things-left-unsaid, to existence, and where existence, in its circuitous path that is not the forest-path of the German Worker who joyfully uses the trees in the service of the Volk, is lead back into essence, this game is the game the urbanite plays and speaks, and where the true nature of Being, that forgotten ray of light piercing the forest kanopy, becomes "boring", becomes "Nothing".

you lost me at the third clause.

If you can't open a book to a random page and make sense of what it says its not worth reading. If a philosopher won't say anything comprehensible in plain language its because he has nothing to say important enough that it needs to be comprehended.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

BrandorKP posted:

Ze Germans write different yo.

It's like the difference between writing a paper for a UK university and a US one, the structure you use is different. On top of the structural differences there is the difference between materialists and idealists. The materialist writes about one thing the idealist writes about many things like that fragmented light coming through the canopy.

Oh come on you can’t pin this on the German language. Nietzsche by contrast is an excellent writer. His books often read more like a battle rap than academic tombs. Heidegger is just a tedious bore who churned out reams of gibberish.

It's not even an analytic vs continental thing. Sartre was a brilliant author who could explore deep themes through his novels and theatre. Foucault was incisive and specific in his commentary. Heidegger is just a chore.

Squalid fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Feb 26, 2019

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Accidental reenactment of Sokal hoax itt

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Norton the First posted:

The bolded part strikes me as incredibly dumb, could you elaborate?

He's just suffering from the sunk cost fallacy and expects that anyone who wastes as much time as he has reading tedious dreck will convince themselves it was actually all worthwhile and its not pointlessly long winded but actually really deep.

Finnegan's Wake would be a much more tolerable bedside companion than Being and Time. The difference between Joyce and Heidegger is that Joyce is actually a good writer.

Actually I should check and see if Finnegan's Wake is on Audible, put on 2x speed and it would probably be a good listen at the gym.

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Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

I saw Sunrise but can remember exactly zero things about it.

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