Martin Heidegger: In conclusion, a man of contrasts

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wateroverfire: Jul 3, 2010

glowing-fish posted:

For example, say we read someone say "The police will only ever protect the wealthy, the justice system is only used to protect those in power". You can read that about 50 times a day on here.

There are two ways to interpret that. The first is that there are universal moral and ethical laws, that people can learn and understand through discourse, but that presently, law enforcement and courts do not follow laws derived from those principles. That would be the rationalist, enlightenment take.

The second way to interpret that is the Foucault way, that is derived from Heidegger, that "universal moral and ethical laws" are just masks for the exercise of power, a form of disguising what can't even be called Truth anymore, a continuation of "forgetting" our primal truth and that, in effect

Because on the surface these arguments might say the same thing, but they start from different places and have different ends. With the first one, we can at least theoretically talk about what a just society looks like. With the second, we are just left posting disconnected discontent on an internet comedy forum.

What if POMO is right and the argument doesn't mean anything in particular except that a person is signaling to other people that they are mad about a thing?

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wateroverfire: Jul 3, 2010

glowing-fish posted:

To discuss that question, I started a thread about rationalism, but it didn't really take off.

I take a break from SA and I miss all kinds of things. =(

glowing-fish posted:

" the poetry of language, the language of poetry, and how they are both silent"

I mean, I couldn't even write that without giggling.

I usually don't like faking people out, I thought it was a clear reference, especially since I did the same thing earlier in the thread.

This was the high point of this thread, IMO.

Heidegger is essentially an early 20th century ERIPSA. Had the latter been born much earlier and I guess been a Nazi he also might have been one of the pillars of modern western philosophy.

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wateroverfire: Jul 3, 2010

CountFosco posted:

An illustration of this sentiment, this ideology in action, can be found in Murnau's "Sunrise." This passage, while utilizing words of a more formal character, is essentially romantic in its worldview.

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