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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Helsing posted:

As far as what socialism is, I think its pointless to try and define an ideology without historicizing it. This is especially true in the case of socialism, which is often linked to a specific historical project deriving from a series of revolutions in countries around the Atlantic Ocean and later Asia. I think socialism will be hard to talk about coherently outside of that context.

Any post that doesn't contend with this is just pointless navel gazing, honestly. These things don't sit apart from history and need to be understood as such.

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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
Most countries involved in WW2 were state capitalist if you need an example. Look at how the US, UK, Canada etc commanded their economy, established industries wholesale, built up a bureaucracy and executives to manage them, and directed them to one end, including in some cases the establishment of labour unions and fair wage guarantee programs.

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