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They literally can't imagine any possible way to do it because in their minds, Medicare for all consists of keeping the same rotten & inefficient system and simply multiplying it by everybody -- and you're left with a giant check to write.
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Why the gently caress is Pelosi asking us? Congress has the power to investigate so she should figure it the gently caress out. It's not up to the people to provide answers to Congress. Though if she wanted a hint maybe she should start with the numerous papers examining the cost savings effects that single payer would have for the nation.
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Reign Of Pain posted:Is there another way to pay for free school & healthcare for everyone without increasing the debt and scaring away people with teh monay? You could create some kind of super efficient.. national health service. Being as we're torching ours it'd be fitting if you took on the mantle.
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gently caress biden, gently caress harris, gently caress clinton
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Hexyflexy posted:You could create some kind of super efficient.. national health service. Being as we're torching ours it'd be fitting if you took on the mantle. 
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The Eyes Have It posted:They literally can't imagine any possible way to do it because in their minds, Medicare for all consists of keeping the same rotten & inefficient system and simply multiplying it by everybody -- and you're left with a giant check to write. Never mind all the incredibly impressive boondoggles the US has found a way to fund over the years without encountering these issues, such as: the Apollo space program; the B2 Spirit; ARPANET; multiple decades long asymmetrical military conflicts. Okay, so the key to funding Medicare for All is to find a way for Lockmart to make some money out of it.
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mods changed my name posted:gently caress biden, gently caress harris, gently caress clinton gently caress the boomers
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Yes nevermind all the countries that have national health service. No way they can compare to good old USA USA USA!
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yeah it doesn't just work at scale, insurance (and honestly any risk-sharing system) works better as you scale it up
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My favorite recent bit was when people complained that AOC's NGD couldn't be paid for without deficit spending or raising taxes. ... whut
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mods changed my name posted:gently caress biden, gently caress harris, gently caress clinton Yup
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Internet Wizard posted:Yaaaas Nancy killing it as per much respect she’s my hero Write to her. Complain to her. Push her. It's possible.
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Hexyflexy posted:You could create some kind of super efficient.. national health service. Being as we're torching ours it'd be fitting if you took on the mantle. I would probably agree if the lovely NHS that underpaid doctors in New Zealand so they all hosed off to Oz didn't accidentally kill my mother. Experienced doctors in NZ piss off to Oz to make real money or they open private only practices and despite the fact that your mum volunteers at a hospital and has a history of having non-hodgkins lymphoma they still say you have pneumonia and by the time that the 27 y/o "doctor" figures it out its too late to get a full dose of chemo because experience costs monay...and then the chinese "doctor" that became a "doctor" after 2 years forgets to give you a script for thrush so the entire inside of her mouth gets eaten away by bacteria because she no longer has an effective immune system. Yay NHS systems that will always be underfunded because sick people are expensive and its cheaper if they just loving die. gently caress the whole god damned loving world in its dirty rotten shithole, just fyi 
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Don Dongington posted:Never mind all the incredibly impressive boondoggles the US has found a way to fund over the years without encountering these issues, such as: the Apollo space program I'd hardly consider Apollo to be an "incredibly impressive boondoggle." Edit: LOL loving ARPANET gently caress off McNally fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Mar 1, 2019 |
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Don Dongington posted:Never mind all the incredibly impressive boondoggles the US has found a way to fund over the years without encountering these issues, such as: the Apollo space program; the B2 Spirit; ARPANET; multiple decades long asymmetrical military conflicts. What do you think boondoggle means?
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McNally posted:I'd hardly consider Apollo to be an "incredibly impressive boondoggle." When NASA started sending astronauts into space, they quickly Discovered that humans would not work in zero Gravity. To combat this problem, NASA scientists spent a Decade and $12 billion developing a robot that works in zero Gravity, upside-down, on almost any surface including glass And at temperatures ranging from below freezing to over 300 C. The Russians sent a gopnik.
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mods changed my name posted:gently caress biden, gently caress harris, gently caress clinton gently caress booker https://twitter.com/AM2DM/status/1101141324831420416
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Don Dongington posted:Never mind all the incredibly impressive boondoggles the US has found a way to fund over the years without encountering these issues, such as: the Apollo space program; the B2 Spirit; ARPANET; multiple decades long asymmetrical military conflicts. Just like we figured out in WW1: healthier citizens make better soldiers
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Don Dongington posted:Never mind all the incredibly impressive boondoggles the US has found a way to fund over the years without encountering these issues, such as: the Apollo space program; the B2 Spirit; ARPANET; multiple decades long asymmetrical military conflicts. Talk smack on the blackbird next, I loving dare you.
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Fallom posted:Just like we figured out in WW1: healthier citizens make better soldiers And WWII, we started the National Free School Lunch Program because 1 in 3 draftees were turned away due to malnutrition health issues.
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Otto hanged himself with the poster he stole. -Donald J. Trump
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Okay full disclosure I started writing about actual boondoggles and then switched to things that cost a lot but actually had value and didn't go back to edit it. I maintain that the Internet was a mistake. BigDave posted:And WWII, we started the National Free School Lunch Program because 1 in 3 draftees were turned away due to malnutrition health issues. Isn't there a huge problem with this even today in the volunteer army? I remember a month or two ago people were posting anecdotes about people hitting boot with life-threatening dental ulcers and all sorts of other treatable conditions that they couldn't deal with financially prior to signing up...
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Don Dongington posted:Isn't there a huge problem with this even today in the volunteer army? I remember a month or two ago people were posting anecdotes about people hitting boot with life-threatening dental ulcers and all sorts of other treatable conditions that they couldn't deal with financially prior to signing up... Different problems, same idea. National lunch program was meant to combat rickets and vitamin deficiencies. Rednecks still show up to MEPS with hookworm and dental abscesses.
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My states national guard instituted a program to fix folks teeth because so many of them were non deployable due to dental issues. I didn't qualify despite having a messed up grille. I guess folks had some really really bad teeth.
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quote:Anecdotal reports from other mobilization sites seemed to https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a262249.pdf And this is from 1992.
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I, a lifelong civilian, have had dental work done by an active duty Ft. Bragg dr at 7pm on a saturday night because my regular dentist thought calling him in for a zero notice consult 2 hours away from base would help her get his D. It did not.
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A year or two ago the military identified obesity as a serious obstacle to recruitment. Finding physically fit kids is harder now. there was a paper written and some generals signed their name.
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Perhaps the kids have some common sense as well.
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Waroduce posted:A year or two ago the military identified obesity as a serious obstacle to recruitment. Finding physically fit kids is harder now. there was a paper written and some generals signed their name. the traditional recruiting grounds have basically collapsed to the point its either obesity or crippling meth addiction this is of course, a feature of capitalism.
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Thalantos posted:My states national guard instituted a program to fix folks teeth because so many of them were non deployable due to dental issues. My first company had a few cases of meth mouth that were vastly improved by grilles.
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Better nutrition and free school lunches, a publicly funded massive project to fix our crumbling infrastructure, universal healthcare (including dental and mental healthcare), funding our public schools, and addressing climate change will all greatly benefit our country, and greatly increase our national security. Which is a good thing. But of course all that poo poo would take rich people's and corporations' money and/or deficit spending, which of course we can only do to fund dumb wars or to give money to people who dont need it.
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Waroduce posted:A year or two ago the military identified obesity as a serious obstacle to recruitment. Finding physically fit kids is harder now. there was a paper written and some generals signed their name. My kids are healthy as hell but have the 'tism and dyslexia so they should be safe from being recruited.
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BigDave posted:https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a262249.pdf I've heard the same and worse from some former Army dentists who were in-processing recruits at Benning during OIF. At least the clinics and dental staff were pretty top notch but for many it was the first time they'd ever seen a dentist in their life. Apparently you could tell at a glance which ones were coming from areas without fluoridated water which was one of the reasons why they had a lab set up for quick turnaround dentures.
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