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Looke posted:Spurs gonna win the title btw Poch said winning trophies is bad for the club though.
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ItS all apart of his great plan
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Feb 5, 2019 23:42
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winning trophies is bad and getting free goals is ref bias and ole gunnar solskjaer is good i dont know what the hell to think any more 
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Punishing success, free goals, foreigners taking good English jobs, this is the future the liberals want
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Shrapnig posted:Poch said winning trophies is bad for the club though. This is so the young players don't feel the pressure of being top and immediately drop six points like they've done every other time they've been in first in the past few years
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brasstassels posted:This is so the young players don't feel the pressure of being top and immediately drop six points like they've done every other time they've been in first in the past few years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Es-RIBnba8
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They killed all the soccer stream subreddits. Including the recent replacement ones. What are the alternatives
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Vegetable posted:They killed all the soccer stream subreddits. Including the recent replacement ones. https://discord.gg/rTAua5g
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Vegetable posted:They killed all the soccer stream subreddits. Including the recent replacement ones. :-(
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Vegetable posted:They killed all the soccer stream subreddits. Including the recent replacement ones. Purchase NBC Gold for US$ 69
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Weaponized Cum posted:Purchase NBC Gold for US$ 69 And ESPN+ for $4.20/month if you want to watch cup games, and uh.... the Bleacher Report for Champions League for I don't even know their site is a mess. Just watch it in Spanish on deportes.
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Feb 6, 2019 05:55
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Do any of the US cable services show games in 4k ?
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Vegetable posted:They killed all the soccer stream subreddits. Including the recent replacement ones. Going to the pub
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Feb 6, 2019 07:20
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There’s the navix app on iOS, though he doesn’t show every game
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/feb/06/west-ham-police-investigating-alleged-islamophobic-abuse-mo-salahquote:In the footage, recorded in a home area of the [West Ham] ground, someone is heard shouting “Salah, you loving Muslim, loving Muslim oval office” at the Egyptian forward. Didn’t even know Terry was a West Ham man but there you go
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Shrapnig posted:Poch said winning trophies is bad for the club though. Spurs found themselves in a two horse race for the title against Leicester and managed to finish third. They are never winning the league.
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Weaponized Cum posted:Purchase NBC Gold for US$ 69 And YouTube TV for $40/mo so you can stream all the matches that aren’t on the Premier League Pass (i.e. almost all matches involving one of the top six).
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Feb 6, 2019 15:35
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https://deadspin.com/jose-mourinho-eats-poo poo-at-russian-hockey-game-1832328990 lol
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47146614 Cardiff never actually paid for Sala and aren't too keen on paying for him given he's a little more waterlogged then they were expecting.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47146614 Presumably Cardiff have insurance covering the transfer fee but require an actual proof of death (we all know it'll happen) before they can get that money back and understandably don't want to be out of pocket.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47146614 We was in full working order when he signed. Cardiff then let him go on a trip to say goodbye to people. Nantes should have already been paid, hiding behind the investigation is really scummy. That's about them covering the loss of a paid-for asset, the transfer was done.
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Cannon_Fodder posted:You think Cardiff kept the receipt? Brony Car posted:Not cool. CyberPingu posted:Did your parents ask the midwife the same thing? 1 page later, we're discussing MTG style, whether the plane crash was a financial counter-spell or played out of turn to avoid payment.
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Haha cool thing to reference about football
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Looks like the people who ran r/soccerstreams set up an alternative site at footybite.com Match threads are posted as pre-match articles and are updated with links before the match starts
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Genuine question as I never played organized with any type of coach: What is the key to set piece defending? Is it really tactical or is it personnel? How can someone who has reached essentially the pinnacle of their profession be so inept at one aspect of the game? It seems like it's a blindspot for a handful of otherwise seemingly competent managers
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TheBigAristotle posted:Genuine question as I never played organized with any type of coach: Back in the Rafa days of Liverpool he was a big fan of zonal marking at corners, which at the time i felt only really worked in video games as actual players tend to fail at their responsibilities more often, though that might be down to poo poo coaching too. In theory its supposed to be more efficient than man marking as you dont have assigned roles. But it doesnt really translate on to the pitch. Set pieces are weird though as there are so many variables, and when you put so many bodies into a confined space the increase of the ball pinballing around increases. Theres also things like playing a high line from a free kick to try catch players offside which can go wrong. Other times its literally just because the ball in was on the loving money. CyberPingu fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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TheBigAristotle posted:Genuine question as I never played organized with any type of coach: It's both. Zonal marking takes a lot of stick by old school English pundits who never used it but a good zonal system is about damage limitation for teams that aren't selecting players based on their ability to defend and attack crosses. There are good zonal systems, and bad ones, sometimes the opposition has analysed your usual system and identified weaknesses, and sometimes players simply fail to do their jobs. At the top level it's not about ineptitude it's strengths and weaknesses and fine margins. David Silva isn't going to stop prime Robert Huth from scoring no matter how much he practices. Marco Silva clearly needs to hire a nerd with a spreadsheet to organise his defenders.
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When they fail man marking systems fall apart way worse than zonal ones. Saw a Norwich game the other day where a player got the run on his man and so had a free header in ten yards of space on the penalty spot. Every defender did their job of following men and so cleared the box for him. But the pundits never blamed the system for that. It was simply a good goal.
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get the tallest player on your team to say, "i've got the big lad" when they come up for corners, put the little lads on the front and back posts, everyone else just do whatever
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CyberPingu posted:Back in the Rafa days of Liverpool he was a big fan of zonal marking at corners, which only works in video games as actual players tend to lose track of what zone they are covering. In theory its supposed to be more efficient than man marking as you dont have assigned roles. But it doesnt really translate on to the pitch. 
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sassassin posted:It's both. Robert Huth as an example is pretty loving weird
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Keeping men on the inside of posts seems like a no brainer...until you realize that those are the generally the same players capable of counterattacking at speed. I’m very curious what the +/- is on that defensive tactic.
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I think corners are really far from basic. There's perhaps a broad consensus now that zonal works better than man, but beyond that there's no agreement on how to defend corners. And even when your tactics are perfect, poo poo can still go wrong. It's the one occasion in the game where you have up to 20 players all crowded in one box. People can lose concentration, refs can miss blatant shoves, the ball can bounce unpredictably, a wicked deflection can happen. Tbh I'd like to see what advanced stats have to say about corners.
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I'd have thought there are far more goals from free kicks into the box than corners since there are far more options available like the one Liverpool conceded against West ham
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Vegetable posted:I think corners are really far from basic. There's perhaps a broad consensus now that zonal works better than man, but beyond that there's no agreement on how to defend corners. http://www.sloansportsconference.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/2007.pdf Has some stats related to corners, I can't find anything more exhaustive however it does have some references to articles with stats in that I cannot be bothered to track down and see what they cover. The "mythbusting" section has some interesting bits ● Myth 1: A team is more likely to score from set-pieces compared to normal play possession o Confirmed: 1.8% chance of scoring from set-pieces vs 1.1% in open play (p < 0.05) ● Myth 2: A team is more likely to score from a free-kick cross compared to a corner o Busted: 2.1% chance of scoring from a corner vs 1.1% chance of scoring from a freekick (p<0.05) ● Myth 3: From free-kicks, teams are more likely to score by shooting directly, rather than crossing the ball o Confirmed: 7.2% chance of scoring from shooting directly vs 1.1% chance from crossing the ball (p<0.05) ● Myth 4: A team is more likely to concede from their own corner than score o Busted: 0.2% chance of conceding vs 2.1% of scoring a goal (p < 0.05) ● Myth 5: Teams are more likely to score from in-swinging corners compared to out-swinging or driven corners o Confirmed: 2.7% chance of scoring from in-swinging corners vs 2.2% from out-swinging (p < 0.05) ● Myth 6: In corners, a goal is more likely to occur from a shot from the second-ball rather than a shot directly o Confirmed: Teams have a 2.5% chance of scoring after winning the second ball vs 2.0% directly (p= 0.86) ● Myth 7: In corners, a team is more likely to score from a flick-on compared to directly shooting from a corner o Confirmed: Teams have a 4.8% chance of scoring from a redirected corner vs 2.0% directly (< 0.05) ● Myth 8: When defending a corner, zonal marking is the least effective method o Busted: A hybrid defense concedes most dangerous shots (12% conversion, p < 0.05) ● Myth 9: When defending a corner, a team should have players on the post (near and/or far) o Busted: Teams with players on both posts concedes the most goals (2.7%) while a player on back post concedes the least (0.9%, p < 0.05) ● Myth 10: A set-piece specialist is more valuable to mid-to-low level teams, compared to high-level teams o Confirmed: An average set-piece taker will win a team 0.9 points while an elite set-piece
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phwoaar those are some tasty advanced stats, I wish they had covered the cover-the-posts issue. I’ve always thought that the goalie can’t cover the entire goal that close in and someone hugging the post helped out in that regard, but they then leave men unmarked so 
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Why work on set pieces when you can use that time to redraft your CV and finesse your way to a better job?
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Monday Bandele posted:Why work on set pieces when you can use that time to redraft your CV and finesse your way to a better job? Just hold L2 when clicking submit on a job application
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paddyboat posted:phwoaar those are some tasty advanced stats, I wish they had covered the cover-the-posts issue. Check out Myth 9.
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