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Android Apocalypse posted:I wish Okung the best in his recovery & hope he eventually plays football again 3 months of blood thinners and he should be cleared to resume training/practicing indigi posted:shouldn't a pre camp physical be finding things like blood clots? Football players aren't really at high risk of developing thromboembolisms so no, it wouldnt be something to screen players for. Risk factors include long periods of immobility (eg: being laid up in a hospital bed), malignant cancers, recent surgeries, family history, oral contraceptives, smoking, old age. Short of family history, no NFL player would meet any of these criteria
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Patriots aren’t gonna spend the money it would take to land him. Is 2019 Mike Daniels even an upgrade for the pats? The d-line was pretty solid last year, they added Mike Pennel, and Daniels took a step back from what I see
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indigi posted:shouldn't a pre camp physical be finding things like blood clots? There's no good test to see if you have one. Closest is what's called a D-Dimer, which we're taught is completely worthless unless you're trying to rule OUT a clot/PE, but any professional athlete is going to test positive at all times for it. Diagnosing DVTs is made clinically and confirmed with an US. A person coming off vacation into training camp isn't going to have one unless something is wrong, so you're not going to screen for it. That's unless they show up with like a bright red calf, pain, elevated pulse etc. BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:
This is false. Long bone fractures, air travel, and stasis are 3 of the 6 or so biggest contributors to PE. Every NFL player is at risk for this. I guarantee patients that have serious injuries on the road are anticoagulated before they fly home.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Football players aren't really at high risk of developing thromboembolisms so no, it wouldnt be something to screen players for. Risk factors include long periods of immobility (eg: being laid up in a hospital bed), malignant cancers, recent surgeries, family history, oral contraceptives, smoking, old age. Short of family history, no NFL player would meet any of these criteria NFL players don't meet the criteria of having recent surgeries? Deshaun Watson I thought had something similar to this which is why he had to travel by bus like a massive distance to get to a game
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Kalli posted:Here's Steve: Its like Jay from Jay and Silent Bob and Andrew Luck had a baby boy.
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RE: blood clot chat. This doc did a series of videos on blood clots in basketball players which is cool. Generally pro-follow on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBlRx06O9vE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCke2xdymxc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAryvlRZaf0
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Play posted:NFL players don't meet the criteria of having recent surgeries? I thought his lung collapsed or something and if he flew he would have lost the lung permanently
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Its like Jay from Jay and Silent Bob and Andrew Luck had a baby boy. Jay and Silent Bill
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DariusLikewise posted:I thought his lung collapsed or something and if he flew he would have lost the lung permanently It's actually kind of mysterious, because he was reported to have a broken rib and partially collapsed lung but he actually denied that. The injury report simply read "chest injury", but yeah maybe it wasn't the same thing. If it was a lung issue though it's the same in the sense that it's an injury that could be exacerbated by changes in air pressure.
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Its like Jay from Jay and Silent Bob and Andrew Luck had a baby boy. Supposedly Malcolm Butler was benched because he shoved little old Steve the night before the Super Bowl. Which is a really lame story. I prefer that rumor that it was because Butler slept with one or both of Bill's twin step daughters. 
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Supposedly Malcolm Butler was benched because he shoved little old Steve the night before the Super Bowl. Which is a really lame story. I prefer that rumor that it was because Butler slept with one or both of Bill's twin step daughters. such a shame they're probably both republican.
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Chilichimp posted:such a shame they're probably both republican. They are influencers so I don't think they dedicate a lot of brain cells to politics. https://www.instagram.com/thehesstwins/?hl=en
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Jul 25, 2019 20:16
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They look like Hugo Weaving with the female faceapp filter
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:They are influencers big deal so am i
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i influence all kinds of things. mostly noses in my immediate vicinity
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Almost as bad as your first career pass being a pick six.
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That was a beautiful sprial at least
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Almost as bad as your first career pass being a pick six. It wasn't just an INT, it was a pick six in fact lol e: god dammit you changed it Daniel Jones is a loving joke though. Darnold could throw ten pick sixes in a row and I'd still have more confidence in him
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We probably should make a new thread for training camp. Feel free to do that anyone if you want. Or just wait until the HoF game or whatever. Because we need thousands of these: https://twitter.com/TomRock_Newsday/status/1154475163204956160
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Kalli posted:We probably should make a new thread for training camp. Feel free to do that anyone if you want. Or just wait until the HoF game or whatever. He probably can't top Hackenberg for pure incompetence, but apparently it won't be for lack of trying!
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Julian Edelman was at least a dual-threat QB at Kent State, Danny Etling was not at Purdue OR LSU  e: Edelman's college rushing stats, for comparison 
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Supposedly Malcolm Butler was benched because he shoved little old Steve the night before the Super Bowl. Which is a really lame story. I prefer that rumor that it was because Butler slept with one or both of Bill's twin step daughters. It was probably because he sucks and was one of the worst starting CBs in the league. Why did the Titans give him a monster contract again?
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SHOAH NUFF posted:They look like Hugo Weaving with the female faceapp filter That's just the Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert https://youtu.be/ZreZzV7y18Y
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MrLogan posted:It was probably because he sucks and was one of the worst starting CBs in the league. Because they're loving dumb I guess. Any idiot could've pointed out that wasn't gonna work, and most of the idiots here actually did so I like that coaching staff and front office, generally they don't make big mistakes like that but boy that was a doozy
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:They are influencers so I don't think they dedicate a lot of brain cells to politics. 23K followers, psssh trash tier
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Butler got an interception in the final play of the game against Washington and ran it in for a touchdown just to be a dick, worth every penny in my book.
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FizFashizzle posted:There's no good test to see if you have one. Closest is what's called a D-Dimer, which we're taught is completely worthless unless you're trying to rule OUT a clot/PE, but any professional athlete is going to test positive at all times for it. An nfl player with a long bone fx isnt gonna pass his physical, so that's kinda irrelevant. The risk of VTE only really becomes significant after flights lasting 8+ hours. Yeah maybe if the guy is coming back from a trip to Japan it could be worth consideration. But all the flights a player is gonna take with his team are a couple hours, tops. And Im not sure what you mean by "stasis". Venous stasis? Thats secondary to prolonged immobility .. not something an active player is really gonna be at risk for. Play posted:NFL players don't meet the criteria of having recent surgeries? The bigger the surgery the bigger the risk. The types of surgeries most NFL players would get are short, arthroscopic affairs. An additional risk, to be sure, but a small one compared to, say, an open heart procedure. And keep in mind, I was responding to the poster who asked why they didn't screen all players for venous blood clots/pulmonary embolisms. If a player was at high risk (ie: 2+ risk factors) he probably wouldn't be undergoing a preseason physical. Hence no need to perform a VTE/PE screen. Not to say that no NFL players are ever at risk for blood clots BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jul 25, 2019 |
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Butler was bad during the first half of the season but actually played pretty well in the second half
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Metapod posted:Butler was bad during the first half of the season but actually played pretty well in the second half I'm pretty sure they adjusted the scheme because he was playing so lovely. Made sure there was always help over the top because he was getting beaten horribly at least once a game for massive plays
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Metapod posted:Butler was bad during the first half of the season but actually played pretty well in the second half Yeah, per the FO Almanac: quote:The optimistic case for Adoree’ Jackson was that teams would go from targeting him often as a rookie to avoiding him in his second season. That was not the case, as he went from the most-targeted corner in the NFL to just one of the most targeted while maintaining average coverage numbers. 🏈 Malcolm Butler’s transition to Tennessee was rough, with blown coverage leading to long touchdowns a too-common early sight. He began the season as a starter, but shifted to an outside role in nickel coverages and was much better the second half of the season. 🏈 Logan Ryan had his second consecutive season with no interceptions, though the passes defensed total again suggests they will be coming. 🏈 Expect Kevin Byard to get a mega-extension around the time this book is released. His mediocre stats are a product of his role as often the last line of defense as a free safety. He is one of the best all-around safeties in the league, capable in man coverage, coming up in run support, as a blitzer, or as a deep safety. 🏈 Kenny Vaccaro was a training camp addition after Johnathan Cyprien tore his ACL and played well enough at strong safety to lead to Cyprien’s release and a four-year, $26-million extension for himself. He is not as versatile as Byard but was a key part of the Titans’ improvement against tight ends. Also I just learned &.#127944 without the dot makes a lil' football, so that's cool.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:An nfl player with a long bone fx isnt gonna pass his physical, so that's kinda irrelevant. quote:The risk of VTE only really becomes significant after flights lasting 8+ hours. Yeah maybe if the guy is coming back from a trip to Japan it could be worth consideration. But all the flights a player is gonna take with his team are a couple hours, tops. also because I got curious quote:CONCLUSION Travel is associated with a nearly 3-fold higher risk for VTE, with a dose-response relationship of 18% higher risk for each 2-hour increase in travel duration. Heterogeneity in results of previous studies was due to selection bias toward the null from use of referred control participants. quote:And Im not sure what you mean by "stasis". Venous stasis? Thats secondary to prolonged immobility .. not something an active player is really gonna be at risk for. but yeah i think i misread you.
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Kalli posted:Yeah, per the FO Almanac: The defense is going to be really good assuming the pass rush isn't bad (which is possible because who knows if Landry can handle an increased load or if wake can be good as a 34 edge rusher)
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Alaois posted:Julian Edelman was at least a dual-threat QB at Kent State, Danny Etling was not I like the dude and wish him the best, but he is no Taysom Hill.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7xt5lj9coQ I count 13 touchdowns, 12 incomplete passes, 13 first downs, 3 long completions and 1 interception. Seems like a pretty drat good ratio to me, maybe teams should bust this out a bit more. Seems like a great way to get a guy open downfield and complete a big play, especially if the normal offense is struggling a bit.
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Stop protecting WRs so much, imo. Let them get punished for daring to cross the middle of the field.
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Randaconda posted:Stop protecting WRs so much, imo. Or just let DBs press again.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:They are influencers so I don't think they dedicate a lot of brain cells to politics. They're also DJ's don't sell them short. Truly renaissance women
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