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wildmamboqueen posted:I'm familiar with the work, but hot drat, I have to read this! The upside is that it is incredibly easy reading, and you don't have to remember very much from chapter chapter, because frankly the author doesn't either
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Greg Stafford, the creator of King Arthur Pendragon, also passed away recently. It's kinda funny to read since the writer is a bit of a grognard clearly has very specific ideas about how the game is to be played, but also open to providing plenty of other options if you REALLY have to. The whole thing definitely simulates well how knights are total drama queens and there's a game mechanic for having a breakdown and running off nude into the woods. Also, apiaries are overpowered. Is 5th edition also heresy? Tabletop edition wars make me wary because people love to complain about things that are different and sensible because they have Stockholm Syndrome. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Sounds complex, I'm still trying to wrap my head around King Arthur Flour, but the pieces are so small they end as clouds of dust and I don't know waht to do  (((((((((((((((
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I have only the loosest knowledge of arthurian stuff from trashy tv shows. Did Lancelot cuck Arthur? That's always been my impression. Arthur is always portrayed as the lead protagonist in the things I've seen, but I'm kind of unclear on Lancelot's role. I'm getting a sort of anime friend/rival vibe. Like the guy naruto is gay for, or riku from kingdom hearts. Or for a slightly less shameful reference, Judas as portrayed in Jesus Christ Superstar.
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Roundup Ready posted:TS Elliott's book was pretty cool. TH White? Once an Future King is an amazing read. Jimlit fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Feb 7, 2019 10:12
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Funny thing is Lancelot is actually really ugly in that but everyone wants to gently caress him anyway.
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Pick posted:also, Lancelot is aggressively sex-pest'd by Galehaut (not to be confused with Galehad[/i]) who is hot and loyal and very tall. woah, this is definitely some gay porno. guy is just begging lancelot to bareback him.
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Came for the Pick-notes, stayed for the barely constrained knightly man love and pointlessly flowery descriptions. Galehaut sent out two of his knights, the best two knights in the land, aside from three of his other knights who are the best in the land. Gawain and sidekick destroy them in many more words.
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Feb 7, 2019 11:19
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Blade Runner posted:The French stuff really is a massive influence on Arthurian lore in general, and is probably the biggest contributor to the modern 'perception' of King Arthur and his knights. "King Arthur" is just an english fanciful reinterpretation of Charlemagne. he even had a magic sword and his 12 paladins just like Arthur. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paladin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyeuse
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Yo Pick, does the Vulgate or post - vulgate cycle mention how Merlin is a hosed up half demon who tricks little girls into learning magic so he can have sex with them? I don't know if they paint him as doing it routinely, but the Lancelot-Grail cycle and later mention that it's what serves as his downfall. He wants to bang his teenage student, and she ends up trapping him in a rock/tree/magic forest. I think she ends up taking over as Arthur's wizardly confidante
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The wise old mentor being a creepy horny idiot just makes it even more anime.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The wise old mentor being a creepy horny idiot just makes it even more anime. Realistic. The word youre looking for is reaistic
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Pick posted:What's super interesting is there are a few anti-feudalist and anti-capitalist screeds embedded in the text as well. We've been trying to gently caress up capitalism for a while now. anti-capitalism is a Christian thing, it's not that hard to imagine monks writting about it
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I found some of the stuff I wrote in middle school and apart from like two texts, boy was it stupid trash for nerds, and I felt so bad for making my cool teacher have to read that poo poo. But after reading this insanely terrible crap I don't feel so bad no more.
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Moon Atari posted:I have only the loosest knowledge of arthurian stuff from trashy tv shows. Did Lancelot cuck Arthur? That's always been my impression. Arthur is always portrayed as the lead protagonist in the things I've seen, but I'm kind of unclear on Lancelot's role. I'm getting a sort of anime friend/rival vibe. Like the guy naruto is gay for, or riku from kingdom hearts. Or for a slightly less shameful reference, Judas as portrayed in Jesus Christ Superstar. A lot of this stuff is a conglomeration of different legends interacting, but yes, essentially. Lancelot kinda sorta cucks Arthur, but it's important to mention that most interpretations have Arthur barely tolerating to outright hating Guinevere, and them never even consummating their marriage is a plot point in some translations. For what Lancelot is functionally, Arthur is a King and Lancelot is a knight. This sounds pithy, but this makes sense when you hash out their roles; Lancelot is a moron who can't lead anything at all but is just a wrecking ball at murdering, Arthur doesn't really do much stabbing but is good at leading.
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He is also good at, depending on the version, loving his own sister.
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Barudak posted:He is also good at, depending on the version, loving his own sister. In fairness, she's usually disguised or he just plain doesn't know it's his half-sister when they meet
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Barudak posted:He is also good at, depending on the version, loving his own sister. Opening the relationship and allowing Chadcelot to come into things was a bad decision, but loving his sister and making Mordred was prolly a worse one
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Blade Runner posted:Opening the relationship and allowing Chadcelot to come into things was a bad decision, but loving his sister and making Mordred was prolly a worse one I dunno, depending on the version, he finally gets to feel a lance.
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In other versions, Mordred's just the Pendragon bastard that survives, Arthur was a seriously horny teenager.
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I am curious about how people feel about The Once and Future King. I’m not as well read as Pick, but I too love medieval literature (I’m a big Chaucer fan) so I gave Once and Future King a shot and I loving hated it.
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dudeness posted:Sounds complex, I'm still trying to wrap my head around King Arthur Flour, but the pieces are so small they end as clouds of dust and I don't know waht to do It's super good flour, and the employees own the company. This is actually the flour I use. They have a line to call for baking questions too.
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Moon Atari posted:I have only the loosest knowledge of arthurian stuff from trashy tv shows. Did Lancelot cuck Arthur? That's always been my impression. Arthur is always portrayed as the lead protagonist in the things I've seen, but I'm kind of unclear on Lancelot's role. I'm getting a sort of anime friend/rival vibe. Like the guy naruto is gay for, or riku from kingdom hearts. Or for a slightly less shameful reference, Judas as portrayed in Jesus Christ Superstar. The French one is also known as the "Lancelot-Grail" and Lancelot is the principal character throughout a huge part of it. He does sleep with Guinevere but Arthur has done so much loving poo poo at that point, and cares about her so little, that frankly it doesn't come off that bad.
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Skypie posted:I don't know if they paint him as doing it routinely, but the Lancelot-Grail cycle and later mention that it's what serves as his downfall. He wants to bang his teenage student, and she ends up trapping him in a rock/tree/magic forest. I think she ends up taking over as Arthur's wizardly confidante Yeah, that's what I was referring to. I was wondering if other Sources mention that.
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remigious posted:I am curious about how people feel about The Once and Future King. I’m not as well read as Pick, but I too love medieval literature (I’m a big Chaucer fan) so I gave Once and Future King a shot and I loving hated it. I've never read it, actually! Or Mists of Avalon. Or... man, there's another one people are sometimes familiar with. None of the modern ones.
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I've read Mists of Avalon in German and thought it was not very good, but it could've been the translations fault
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:I've read Mists of Avalon in German and thought it was not very good, but it could've been the translations fault It's now very tainted by the reputation of the author, but I've also heard it's not very good.
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Pick posted:I've never read it, actually! Or Mists of Avalon. Or... man, there's another one people are sometimes familiar with. None of the modern ones. I guess what bothers me is that all of the characters are very silly in a try-hard sort of way and it comes off as very cutesy to me. And all of the “clever” anachronisms are annoying. Yeah we get it, Merlin ages backwards.
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hemale in pain posted:woah, this is definitely some gay porno. guy is just begging lancelot to bareback him. that is the case, yes. i'm actually still holding out on a fair amount of galehaut stuff i'll scan later.
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Pick I’m so jealous that you have that set. I just checked on Amazon and the books are like $40 each.
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It's also weird that Lancelot's son is basically named after his boyfriend, especially considering Galahad, said son, was a rape baby who didn't meet his father until he was way older and Elaine de Corbenic(the rapist)probably didn't know much about the guy
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remigious posted:Pick I’m so jealous that you have that set. I just checked on Amazon and the books are like $40 each. before they released the blue copies and just had the green and beige ones, each was closer to $200
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Blade Runner posted:It's also weird that Lancelot's son is basically named after his boyfriend, especially considering Galahad, said son, was a rape baby who didn't meet his father until he was way older and Elaine de Corbenic(the rapist)probably didn't know much about the guy misheard what he was shouting in bed
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For those of you that have a kindle, you can download Le Mort d’Arthur and other stories for free 
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I like the Clive Owen King Arthur movie but mostly because I share my name with the coolest knight I’m sure you can guess which one
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a peck of pickled peckers posted:I like the Clive Owen King Arthur movie but mostly because I share my name with the coolest knight I’m sure you can guess which one Gawain?
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Lancelot as the angel-faced rent boy for an eccentric billionaire is like, a blockbuster broadway musical just waiting to happen
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Nerses IV posted:Lancelot as the angel-faced rent boy for an eccentric billionaire is like, a blockbuster broadway musical just waiting to happen Unironically surprised a movie with Lancelot as a beautiful and unbeatable French boxer or something who comes over to work for King Arthur as a promoter and ends up in a gay relationship with the neurotic billionaire Galehaut hasn't already happened
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except all galehaut does is like incessantly pine, and feel rather peeved that lancelot won't let him use his (galehauts) armies to GET LANCELOT'S BIRTHRIGHT KINGDOM BACK because lancelot literally wants it to happen magically because he ~deserves~ it god lancelot is just so dumb it is mind boggling
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Pick posted:except all galehaut does is like incessantly pine, and feel rather peeved that lancelot won't let him use his (galehauts) armies to GET LANCELOT'S BIRTHRIGHT KINGDOM BACK because lancelot literally wants it to happen magically because he ~deserves~ it To be fair he's essentially right, God just really loving likes Lancelot for completely unexplained reasons which mean it's literally impossible for him to lose Like he's the only knight I can think of offhand who fought often and never lost, because it's written into fate that he has to win every fight he's in
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