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loving love Fiona Apple posted:Birthrights story is pretty vanilla as far as Fire Emblem stories. Conquest and Revelations is where the real dumb poo poo is, and wow is there some real dumb poo poo there. Conquest also has the single worst map I've ever played in a turn based strategy game. So it's a very mixed bag. But Christ why would you do this to yourselves.
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Oh boy. Friends have been telling me about Fire Emblem for years. I'm sure this LP will give me a good first impression!
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Vavrek posted:Oh boy. Friends have been telling me about Fire Emblem for years. I'm sure this LP will give me a good first impression! This is the Operation Raccoon City of Fire Emblem games.
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Feb 18, 2019 04:22
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After drinking box wine I remembered that certain plot points (the story not Shinzo Abe gently caress-anime plot points)are determined by how much you A-rank (NOT the gently caress rank) certain characters
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Feb 18, 2019 05:43
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Whamukars posted:After drinking box wine I remembered that certain plot points (the story not Shinzo Abe gently caress-anime plot points)are determined by how much you A-rank (NOT the gently caress rank) certain characters I hate how much I understood of that sentence.
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Feb 18, 2019 12:39
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Feb 19, 2019 03:48
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Oh, I dunno if it's really gonna come up, but in Fates' casual mode, your main character CAN totally KO and it won't game over you. And I think it's the only FE game where that's the case (I actually don't know if that's true in Echoes, but I assume it is.)
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drat, dad gave chome a pretty sweet sword. Do you think he bought it from BUDK?
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Feb 19, 2019 06:01
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RareAcumen posted:This is the Operation Raccoon City of Fire Emblem games. I know less about that than I do Fire Emblem. Question for those in the know: how much continuity of story/setting/characters is there in these games? I figure Corrin is a one-off for Fates, but there's been some talk of Camilla as a series regular. Are the families consistent between games? Is it a reimagining each time? What is even going on?
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You know I'm not a sword expert, but I don't think they are supposed to be pulsating with pure evil energy. Ah I'm sure it'll be fine.
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Vavrek posted:I know less about that than I do Fire Emblem. That is a slightly tougher question to answer due to what comes up later. In general though unless a game specifically states that it is continuing from another game then it is a stand alone product. With Camilla at least she shows up in spin off games but will only show up in one mainline release.
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Feb 19, 2019 06:23
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Vavrek posted:I know less about that than I do Fire Emblem. If you can understand at least 'Oh that was one of the bad ones' then you've got it. To try and simplify things, Fire Emblem usually follows Final Fantasy rules, they don't really do sequels too often but they happen sometimes. With the 3DS ones they'll let you pull in other characters using amiibos but aside from that there's not really a lot of crossover in the main games. Then you get spinoffs like Fire Emblem Warriors and Heroes and those are all about using a bunch of characters throughout the series like Hyrule Warriors did so those are much looser rules. RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Feb 19, 2019 |
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sincx fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Feb 19, 2019 06:45
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I wanted to wait a bit before watching anything so there'd be a few backlogged already and I'm not  crazy and hot drat I can't believe you guys just kinda stumbled into making a harem protagonist rather than striking to do one from the outset.
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Having grown up in Israel and the propaganda therein, there's practically no way someone whose only knowledge of their empire's long-time enemy is what their empire says would just naively think 'oh we're all just people we could all get along'.
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Feb 19, 2019 09:03
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RareAcumen posted:I wanted to wait a bit before watching anything so there'd be a few backlogged already and I'm not I didn't see any other options
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Feb 19, 2019 12:29
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I haven't posted in this subforum in like 7 years but I would just like to say I'm way into this already I like so many things about FE Fates but good god it is one of the most problem-laden 4 out of 5 games in the world.
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Feb 19, 2019 14:51
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Cool, the repressed memories are starting to come back. Couple things: I think this chapter is where the first difference between Boy Chome and Girl Chome comes up (I'm assuming because I've only ever played Girl Chome, those male appearance options are across the board dreadful). Girl Chome is given Gunter and a different character to start with, instead of Felicia. I don't think you saw Rinkah's class, because it was hidden by other menus, but she's an Oni Savage, just like our Chome. So that gives you an idea of what he could be if you decided to reclass him to that later!
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Feb 19, 2019 16:54
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Is that "other dimension" Ganglari is infused with power from supposed to be hell itself or something? Because that's my first thought when I see its design. I'd comment further on Ganglari, but that edges into "spoilers disguised as speculation" territory. Anyway! What stereotypical "villain" action will Garon take next? Maybe kick a bag of puppies into the ocean or something? Really, it feels like he's actually got a checklist of "things to do to remind people that I Am Evil." Incidentally, Gunter and Felicia have atrocious Strength growth, so they will never be decent physical attackers (Gunter, in particular, ties with several mages for the dubious honor of "worst unmodified Strength growth in the game"). Not that you'd use Gunter long with those stats anyway...
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Okay, I did laugh when it was pointed out that yes, Camilla is very much Chome's sister and that makes a lot of what she's said thus far even worse as far as the creep factor. But I do want to give a lukewarm defense of the game and say that incest has been a theme in Fire Emblem for a very long time. They're just being more honest about it in Fates.CptWedgie posted:Incidentally, Gunter and Felicia have atrocious Strength growth, so they will never be decent physical attackers (Gunter, in particular, ties with several mages for the dubious honor of "worst unmodified Strength growth in the game"). Not that you'd use Gunter long with those stats anyway... Eh. Felicia's main usefulness is as a Healer anyway. Her class makes her a little more likely to survive a hit or two than most staff-bot characters in the early game.
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Feb 19, 2019 18:13
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Also, I would recommend to Kuvo to go into options and disable animations for the enemy turn. It may seem tolerable now, but in later chapters you will have enemies deploying up to 40-60 dudes and having to mash skip every time one attacks or is attacked.
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Feb 19, 2019 19:56
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The Skeleton King posted:Also, I would recommend to Kuvo to go into options and disable animations for the enemy turn. It may seem tolerable now, but in later chapters you will have enemies deploying up to 40-60 dudes and having to mash skip every time one attacks or is attacked. i did this after our second session started to take forever
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Feb 19, 2019 20:16
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Kuvo posted:i did this after our second session started to take forever If it gets really bad you can just skip the entire enemy turn.
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Gaearin posted:But I do want to give a lukewarm defense of the game and say that incest has been a theme in Fire Emblem for a very long time. They're just being more honest about it in Fates. As a Heinlein fan, this makes me feel right at home.
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Gaearin posted:But I do want to give a lukewarm defense of the game and say that incest has been a theme in Fire Emblem for a very long time. They're just being more honest about it in Fates. I'd hardly say that 'appearing 3 times across 13 games before this one' is a theme, but yeah, Fire Emblem's history with incest is concerning and frustrating. Granted, 2 of those 3 times the characters in question didn't know it was incestuous, but that isn't any better a defense for it.
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slink_bot posted:I'd hardly say that 'appearing 3 times across 13 games before this one' is a theme, but yeah, Fire Emblem's history with incest is concerning and frustrating. Granted, 2 of those 3 times the characters in question didn't know it was incestuous, but that isn't any better a defense for it. Didn't the guy who kept trying to put that into the games go on to make Tear Ring Saga or something where it was even more heavily slathered all over everything? And if you're gonna put incest in, you either go all in on it like Game of Thrones and Back to the Future or you make a joke out of it like Arrested Development.
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I’m going to put the nail in this incest discussion right now so we don’t have to go on and on about it. As said previously, incest has only appeared 3 times in the entire series history, and each time was not certainly not a “theme” and had no notable bearing on the story. The first time was in Genealogy of The Holy War (FE4), in which two related characters could have a kid if you paired them. I dont know much about fe4, but I’m pretty sure you could easily just choose not have that happen. If you are a weirdo and do make it happen I don’t recall it having any impact on the plot anyway. Second time was in Awakening (FE13), in which a doomsday cult used inbreeding to produce a child with perfect dragon blood that could be used to summon a Satan-dragon. As far as I can remember you can’t make any of the characters incest. I actually don’t know what the third time was. The Skeleton King fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Feb 20, 2019 |
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FE4 does has incest as a major plot point... because it was used by the villain to give Dragon Satan a body to reincarnate into. E: wait are you telling me they used that plot point twice And while yes Kaga definitely laid his fetishes/misogyny bare in the games he worked on he had entirely different weird obsessions leak through. Like Clockwork fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Feb 20, 2019 |
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The Skeleton King posted:Second time was in Awakening (FE13), in which a doomsday cult used inbreeding to produce a child with perfect dragon blood that could be used to summon a Satan-dragon. As far as I can remember you can’t make any of the characters incest. Sort of. Depending on your 1st generation pairings in Awakening it was possible to have some of your 2nd generation characters be cousins. Those characters are able to gain S-rank supports with each other, but if they're cousins they become "companions" instead of spouses.
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Like Clockwork posted:FE4 does has incest as a major plot point... because it was used by the villain to give Dragon Satan a body to reincarnate into. E: wait are you telling me they used that plot point twice This says something about evil dragons I think.
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Gruckles posted:Sort of. Depending on your 1st generation pairings in Awakening it was possible to have some of your 2nd generation characters be cousins. Those characters are able to gain S-rank supports with each other, but if they're cousins they become "companions" instead of spouses. Only in the localization, in Japan they're straight up spouses.
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As a lifelong FE fan I'm pretty pumped to see kuvo and crew drunkenly stumble their way through the game. but the little min-maxer in me is getting unreasonably irritated at picking the hp boon. Who does that rather than picking one of str/spd/def.
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TheWhaler posted:but the little min-maxer in me is getting unreasonably irritated at picking the hp boon. Who does that rather than picking one of str/spd/def. Objectively wrong people, that’s who.
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The Skeleton King posted:I’m going to put the nail in this incest discussion right now so we don’t have to go on and on about it. As said previously, incest has only appeared 3 times in the entire series history, and each time was not certainly not a “theme” and had no notable bearing on the story. 
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video Ep 03 - Journey Begins also please, continue to talk about sister loving. its a deeply engaging and nuanced topic with a lot of depth that we've yet to explore
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Hans is the best. "Everyone, this is Murderman. He murders, but promised not to." "Oh no! He murdered."
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Kuvo posted:
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Every time I actually see the cutscenes I'm surprised that I forgot how dumb this game is.
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Kuvo posted:also please, continue to talk about sister loving. its a deeply engaging and nuanced topic with a lot of depth that we've yet to explore I've also some dissertations on dragon loving if that would be preferable
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