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I'm not sure you can be trusted with ramming. Unfortunately the Navy seems to think otherwise.
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Feb 16, 2019 15:14
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You know, it just occurred to me that Chaos wouldn't have lost those ships in the first mission if they had taught their people how a hotshot pilot clears a minefield in an unshielded craft. But really, it's Chaos's fault for following Abaddon the Armless despite him getting pantsed in the first Battlefleet Gothic. Also, ramming your own ships is a Battlefleet tradition; the Orks would be proud.
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Feb 16, 2019 17:01
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 Imperium - Part 1 So, very recently the devs released plans for quite an overhaul of the game's systems, on both the campaign map and the tactical battles, including some much needed improvements to the Mechanicus.  Oh yeah. After this (Gravity Cannon) drops, I'm gonna like the Mechanicus a lot more. Anyways, that's led me to drop my plans to put out an overview of the Navy, Space Marine and AdMech fleets for a little while, until the patch drops. Da Boyz haven't got hit though, so I'll be fiddling around with their ship list. There's another plus though - while re-rendering these videos, I got a nice head start on the script for the first lore video, which'll just generally tackle the Imperium loosely. I'm going to be trying to maintain a daily upload schedule after the next patch hits, but until then I'll be maintaining a smaller buffer for obvious reasons, so don't expect a consistent upload pattern until the devs stop improving the game! 
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Feb 16, 2019 22:43
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Glad to see this getting LP'd; I picked it up on preorder but I've been finding the campaign layer pretty rough and stopped short a few sectors in.
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Feb 16, 2019 23:10
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Cythereal posted:Still, interesting that they have the Phalanx, Honor of Macragge, and Vengeful Spirit - all the flagships of those legions during the Great Crusade and Heresy eras. So knowing how the Alpha Legion operates, how many "Alphas" are actually in existence? I'd bet 100 at minimum.
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Feb 16, 2019 23:55
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Dr. Snark posted:So knowing how the Alpha Legion operates, how many "Alphas" are actually in existence? I'd bet 100 at minimum. As far as I known, the Alpha legion still has it, but it has not been seen or mentioned since the Horus Heresy, quite a feat for such a massive ship to go unnoticed, so who knows.
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Feb 17, 2019 00:08
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Angry Lobster posted:As far as I known, the Alpha legion still has it, but it has not been seen or mentioned since the Horus Heresy, quite a feat for such a massive ship to go unnoticed, so who knows. Knowing the fluff, they probably somehow managed to replace Earth's moon with it and no one noticed.
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Feb 17, 2019 00:12
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seaborgium posted:Knowing the fluff, they probably somehow managed to replace Earth's moon with it and no one noticed. Alpha Legion fluff is incredibly retarded, yes. Shadow of the Emperor (Raven Guard) and Nightfall (Night Lords) were both destroyed during the Heresy or at a later point, but 40k's seldom given a poo poo about internal consistency so they could well show up. I'll be surprised if the Trisagion or Blessed Lady doesn't show, though. Lorgar built at least three of those things, and so far only one - the Furious Abyss itself - is known to have been destroyed. The Word Bearers' Gloriana, the Fidelitas Lex, was destroyed during the Heresy.
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Feb 17, 2019 00:51
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Ship name: This Old Space Hulk
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Feb 17, 2019 03:11
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Spire starts with a Lunar because it has all the basic weapons you'll be using as the Imperium: Macros, Lances, torpedoes and ramming spurs. Also, lances were changed in the latest beta patch. They now do a base 25 point armour decrease across the board, so they are much more effective against lightly armoured ships.
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Feb 17, 2019 03:24
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Also, as an aside, I was happy Spire started with a Lunar since I personally like having one to complement my fleet: I really like torpedoes and power rams in both games (even with the limited ammo in this one) and the Lunar makes for a versatile cruiser in general.
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Feb 17, 2019 03:53
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Ship name: Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall I was just wondering the other day if you were going to be doing an LP of this game. Perfect timing!
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Feb 17, 2019 04:21
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Hey now, Captain Abridal DID throw his ship into a giant death beam to save your fleet; you don't get
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Feb 17, 2019 05:15
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Ship Name: Edit: VolticSurge posted:Ship Name: "Ram.exe". Mechanicus ship obviously. From what I understand, you do not want to use mechanicus ships in close combat, they suck at boarding, they suck at defending at boarding, they have low morale, and they're fragile, they come with more long range guns though. SugarAddict fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Feb 17, 2019 |
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Feb 17, 2019 05:58
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Ship Name: "Ram.exe". Mechanicus ship obviously.
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Feb 17, 2019 06:49
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The mechanicus warship "delete system32"
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Feb 17, 2019 09:16
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I will always enjoy some good space combat with Admiral Herp. (Even if it is this setting full of crazies and Nietzschian supermen.) Ship name: Nostalgia for Murder
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Feb 17, 2019 14:01
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Dr. Snark posted:So knowing how the Alpha Legion operates, how many "Alphas" are actually in existence? I'd bet 100 at minimum. I think just the one, but it is visually indistinguishable from the Beta.
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Feb 17, 2019 20:23
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Imperium, Part 2 radintorov posted:Also, as an aside, I was happy Spire started with a Lunar since I personally like having one to complement my fleet: I really like torpedoes and power rams in both games (even with the limited ammo in this one) and the Lunar makes for a versatile cruiser in general. NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Spire starts with a Lunar because it has all the basic weapons you'll be using as the Imperium: Macros, Lances, torpedoes and ramming spurs. Stuff like the change to Armour Piercing is going to be annoying to get my head around, given I just got used to it getting to 50 armour across the board. And the Lunar really annoys me - why put the long range Lance batteries on the same ship as the short range Macro weapons, as well as the power ram, on the one ship that you cannot afford to lose? For the flagship, not only is it a lot more thematic and in my opinion, straight up just a better ship - just use a Gothic cruiser. 4 Lance batteries, torpedoes, and with the ram you have decent emergency close range firepower. I really, really, really dislike the Lunar.
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Feb 17, 2019 23:25
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Hold the phone. Horus' surname is pronounced Lup-ercal? I thought it was Loo-percal.
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Feb 17, 2019 23:36
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Cythereal posted:Alpha Legion fluff is incredibly retarded, yes. As I recall the Alpha Legion are supposed to be the masters of infiltration and irregular warfare who also control a vast network of spies and agents all over the galaxy. They also insist on tattooing all their agents with a highly distinctive mark for some inexplicable reason.
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Feb 18, 2019 00:54
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Cerebral Bore posted:As I recall the Alpha Legion are supposed to be the masters of infiltration and irregular warfare who also control a vast network of spies and agents all over the galaxy. They also insist on tattooing all their agents with a highly distinctive mark for some inexplicable reason. And they can drink each others' blood to make them literally physically identical. Drink their primarch's blood? Hooray, they're as big and strong as the primarch! And they're all Alpharius.
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Feb 18, 2019 01:02
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Cythereal posted:And they can drink each others' blood to make them literally physically identical. Drink their primarch's blood? Hooray, they're as big and strong as the primarch! And they're all Alpharius. poo poo like that's dumb, but at least it makes some kind of sense in the story. But running a vast clandestine operation while literally marking out all your agents? Why would you ever do that? Why haven't they been busted a hundred times already? What the gently caress?
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Feb 18, 2019 01:08
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Cythereal posted:And they can drink each others' blood to make them literally physically identical. Drink their primarch's blood? Hooray, they're as big and strong as the primarch! And they're all Alpharius. I read somewhere that Alpharius was pretty dang short for a primarch and some of his legionnaires were taller than the average astartes. :v
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Kimchi Surplus posted:I read somewhere that Alpharius was pretty dang short for a primarch. :v He is. Both of them. Alpharius has an identical twin, Omegon, you see. Is one of them dead? Are both of them dead? Are neither of them dead and it was always just an Alpha hopped up on primarch blood both times the Alpha Legion's primarch has canonically (supposedly) been killed? Who knows, like Tzeentch the Alpha Legion is a patch labeled "Just as planned!" GW slaps over plot holes when they don't want to think about it.
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Feb 18, 2019 01:42
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Cerebral Bore posted:poo poo like that's dumb, but at least it makes some kind of sense in the story. But running a vast clandestine operation while literally marking out all your agents? Why would you ever do that? Why haven't they been busted a hundred times already? What the gently caress? Maybe that's what they want you to think.  Edit: 
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Feb 18, 2019 01:50
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Cythereal posted:He is. Both of them. Alpharius has an identical twin, Omegon, you see. Is one of them dead? Are both of them dead? Are neither of them dead and it was always just an Alpha hopped up on primarch blood both times the Alpha Legion's primarch has canonically (supposedly) been killed? That's just what they want you to think... edit: ^ 
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Feb 18, 2019 01:51
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I think my favorite thing about Alpha Legion lore is that it's 100% canon that Alpharius was the kind of guy who liked to show off by going through absurdly complex plans to win battles. This naturally earned him Gulliman's ire, because he was basically like "how about instead of going through all of these complex plans, you just shoot them already." With that in mind it only makes sense that his Legion follows in his footsteps of being theatrical spy villains and engineering plans within deceptions within riddles at every opportunity. Not out of any practical value, but because they can.
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Feb 18, 2019 01:57
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:why put the long range Lance batteries on the same ship as the short range Macro weapons, as well as the power ram, on the one ship that you cannot afford to lose? Of course in this and the previous game theory and practice are two different things.
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Samovar posted:Hold the phone. Horus' surname is pronounced Lup-ercal? I thought it was Loo-percal.
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Feb 18, 2019 05:05
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Samovar posted:Hold the phone. Horus' surname is pronounced Lup-ercal? I thought it was Loo-percal. I think it might have been the French devs giving their own direction to the VAs. After all, in the original, the 'high energy turn' was actually 'come to new heading' in the actual game- the former was actually the direct English translation of the French term.
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CommissarMega posted:I think it might have been the French devs giving their own direction to the VAs. After all, in the original, the 'high energy turn' was actually 'come to new heading' in the actual game- the former was actually the direct English translation of the French term.
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Dr. Snark posted:With that in mind it only makes sense that his Legion follows in his footsteps of being theatrical spy villains and engineering plans within deceptions within riddles at every opportunity. Not out of any practical value, but because they can. So they're a Space Marine legion that acts exactly like secret Tzeench cultists. Is there a reason nobody's purged the gently caress out of them yet?
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Feb 18, 2019 09:12
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Suggestion for ship name: Mechanicus warship `rm -rf`
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Feb 18, 2019 09:23
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Ratoslov posted:So they're a Space Marine legion that acts exactly like secret Tzeench cultists. Is there a reason nobody's purged the gently caress out of them yet? They're a Traitor Legion. They're already evil. Granted, they were acting like that pre-Heresy, but that was when everyone was (mostly) getting along in the name of humanity and so on.
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Is the Drang message supposed to be sort of humorous in undertone (deep down I know that, like all 40k stuff, it is edgelord deathly serious stuff) 'Oh look who just showed up, thank gently caress I don't have to haul my rear end to the field. Hello man welcome back. Also please grasp victory from the jaws of the worst defeat in 10k years. Bye'
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Feb 18, 2019 09:38
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Dr. Snark posted:They're a Traitor Legion. They're already evil. They don't even know what they're doing most of the time. Neither do the authors?
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Feb 18, 2019 10:32
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Dr. Snark posted:They're a Traitor Legion. They're already evil. Oops, I wasn't paying attention.
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Dr. Snark posted:They're a Traitor Legion. They're already evil. They were pretty much the only legion to turn traitor angst-free, with the possible exception of the World Eaters.
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