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Rhyno posted:Thought I'd bounce this off you guys before I posted it in DIY Just replace the valve, it's simple and does not take a lot of time and the best way to do this repair barring tearing out all that copper and switching your house to pex. Bernzomatic even sells a soldering kit with flux, solder, and torch for like $30, the valve will be like $10 at the most, probably closer to $5.
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Rhyno posted:Thought I'd bounce this off you guys before I posted it in DIY You can try to replace the core and seals in the valve but honestly it's probably corroded and that's why it's leaking. You've got plenty of pipe to work with, just hack the old valve off, sand the pipe, and sweat on a new valve. ORRRRRR see if you can get a valve that has the shark bite fitting if you don't trust yourself to play with fire.
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Rhyno posted:Thought I'd bounce this off you guys before I posted it in DIY Can't really tell from the dark picture, but don't overthink it. If it's leaking from the knob, tighten the packing nut right behind the knob just a little bit. That'll probably fix the problem. (and I recognize the irony of saying "don't overthink it" with me just having taken 3 days troubleshooting a parasitic power drain on the Escalade that ended up being just a dead battery.)
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I'll try the packing nut turn. If that doesn't work I'll stop at Menards tomorrow for a full repair kit. And while this bathroom isn't amazing, it's looking a lot better than the DJBeatster guy's efforts.
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Based upon the colour of the wall, trim, and toilet, your washroom is probably boringly normal which is a-loving-okay and 100x better than beatmasterj's renders.
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It's gray! With fully whited-out trim! I need to get that drat door painted.
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Rhyno posted:I'll try the packing nut turn. If that doesn't work I'll stop at Menards tomorrow for a full repair kit. As a side, it's pretty common to happen on old valves that aren't opened/closed regularly. I make a point of turning all my valves off/on once every year or so as I think about it for just that reason.
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Well by kit I meant I need a torch as well since I don't own one. Jesus, you guys have encouraged me to use fire.
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Rhyno posted:It's gray! With fully whited-out trim! Really gonna tank your resale value with the  though.
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Mar 1, 2019 20:59
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Rhyno posted:Well by kit I meant I need a torch as well since I don't own one. If it comes to that, save time and money -- https://www.homedepot.com/p/SharkBite-Toilet-Installation-Kit-25088/206105373
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Rhyno posted:Well by kit I meant I need a torch as well since I don't own one. Don't worry Rhyno, we'll make a real man out of you yet. Just get this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bernzomatic-Trigger-Start-Torch-Plumbing-Kit-WPK2301/304528930 and this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-4-in-1-Fitting-Brush-313482/202078158 and whatever valve you need. Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Mar 1, 2019 |
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meatpimp posted:If it comes to that, save time and money -- https://www.homedepot.com/p/SharkBite-Toilet-Installation-Kit-25088/206105373 Thanks in advance, I'm heading back up to try the packing nut here in a minute.
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Rhyno posted:Well by kit I meant I need a torch as well since I don't own one. Oh was that thing soldered on? I thought it was just threaded on an NPT nipple from what I thought I could make out in the photo. Don't burn your house down! remember to turn your water off. Or better yet, if you don't, make sure you film it
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slidebite posted:Oh was that thing soldered on? I thought it was just threaded on an NPT nipple from what I thought I could make out in the photo. Exactly what I was going to ask, if it's threaded or soldered on. In either case, replace that janky white PVC line with a braided line, we don't even use PVC lines in our rentals anymore because braided doesn't cost that much more and lasts a lot longer.
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Recommended channel for you What the actual gently caress, YT algorithm?
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Rhyno posted:Thanks in advance, I'm heading back up to try the packing nut here in a minute. If you do end up having to sweat it and it keeps dripping stick a piece bread in there to keep it dry enough for a good seal. It's a huge pain if water keeps messing up the solder. The bread will melt and come out as soon as you open the valve. E: spellin
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meltie posted:Recommended channel for you He's been banned from Twitter and Facebook but why not YouTube?
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meltie posted:Recommended channel for you Why do those videos have so many views 
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sometimes, if the shutoff doesn't get used to often it just reseats after a bit, just put something under it for the meantime if its just a few drips every now and then.
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Gave the nut a turn. It's been 5 minutes and just a single drop. I still have the bucket under it just in case. I'll probably do the full replacement Sunday or Monday just to be safe. Gonna climb up in the attic and replace the in-celing fans tomorrow!
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fridge corn posted:He's been banned from Twitter and Facebook but why not YouTube? Never heard of dude, why was he banned?
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fridge corn posted:He's been banned from Twitter and Facebook but why not YouTube? Grakkus posted:Why do those videos have so many views keykey posted:Never heard of dude, why was he banned?
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Crosspostin from the Florida thread. We got on the subject of Randy "Macho Man" Savage and I was talking about how I lived near him and would talk to him about his Viper sometimes. He was a cool dude. I also had the privilege of being the only photographer covering his LIVE RAP DEBUT, I know some of you guys love Macho Man so I figured I'd post this here too. I have a few more if you guys want to see them.
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keykey posted:Never heard of dude, why was he banned? Hate speech with the intent to radicalise
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Crosspostin from the Florida thread. We got on the subject of Randy "Macho Man" Savage and I was talking about how I lived near him and would talk to him about his Viper sometimes. He was a cool dude. I also had the privilege of being the only photographer covering his LIVE RAP DEBUT, I know some of you guys love Macho Man so I figured I'd post this here too. I have a few more if you guys want to see them. Oooh Yeah!
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Rhyno, don't bother trying to sweat a new valve on their, it can be tricky, and any water contamination will gently caress it up, just use one of these guys it installs in like a minute with tools you have, uses a little brass compression ring and nut to clamp on the copper, they work well, and if they go bad are super easy to replace.
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Oooh, compression fittings! Lots safer!
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Rhyno posted:Oooh, compression fittings! Lots safer! The shark bit connection that I linked is way better than compression fittings, unless you hate your life.
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Oh, I thought that still required fire.
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Fermented Tinal posted:Have you been reading his posts? I didnt say he had a lot of self respect, just enough to not write for Japolik 
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Rhyno posted:Oh, I thought that still required fire. Nah, sharkbite fittings just need a clean / straight pipe end to grab onto.
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meatpimp posted:The shark bit connection that I linked is way better than compression fittings, unless you hate your life. I used compression fittings on my own house back in 2003 and the bathroom pipes are still leak free, they were super easy to install. Slip the 2 parts over pipe, then the valve, screw on with 2 wrenches and done. In all honesty, the shark bit thing seems overpriced and unnecessary.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I have a few more if you guys want to see them. Yes. I <3 Macho Man. I was him for halloween a couple years ago, randomly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4lK41SX-Q&t=28s
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Better in what way? Compression fittings are just fine and a lot easier to service, I guess it's a little harder to gently caress up the shark bite installation? I don't think they're worth the price premium by any standard.
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Rhyno, I had a very similar problem to you about a month and a half ago. This gave up the ghost:  Replacing it (and the other one):  Was easy:  Do it right, use a torch, it's a skill that will come in handy in the future and avoiding learning it now will only cause headaches later. E: For anyone about to point it out, those valves were both solder-on or screw on. EE: The PTFE tape was unnecessary, but I prefer to seal on the threads instead of with o-rings and my can of pipe dope is for gas line. EEE: This is far from the ideal way of running this setup, but I wasn't about to whole-hog undo the PO fuckery, just fixed/improved what was there. Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Mar 1, 2019 |
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keykey posted:I used compression fittings on my own house back in 2003 and the bathroom pipes are still leak free, they were super easy to install. Slip the 2 parts over pipe, then the valve, screw on with 2 wrenches and done. In all honesty, the shark bit thing seems overpriced and unnecessary. Elviscat posted:Better in what way? Compression fittings are just fine and a lot easier to service, I guess it's a little harder to gently caress up the shark bite installation? I don't think they're worth the price premium by any standard. Compressions on larger fittings aren't bad, but I've had some stupid struggles with 1/4" fuckers that I'd avoid them whenever I can. I used a sharkbite on a 1/4" copper fitting to add a valve past a leaking saddle valve, so there was actual fluid flow when I cut the copper line. Shoved the sharkbite fitting on and -bam- done. Not a leak, not a thought. It's truly mindless. Yeah, it costs more, but for 1-off jobs like that, especially under/behind a toilet where there is not a lot of space, and you're counting on the main valve to fully close (good chance it won't), and you're counting on a square, burr-free cut on the copper (good chance it won't be), the sharkbite is worth the extra 
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Fermented Tinal posted:EE: The PTFE tape was unnecessary, but I prefer to seal on the threads instead of with o-rings and my can of pipe dope is for gas line. You literally cannot seal a hose connection on the threads, because of the swivel joint in the back, also o-ring or gasketed seals are superior to threaded ones in nearly every instance. I enjoy sweating copper, but I would not consider buying a torch to replace one valve, especially one at ground level in a cabinet that's going to be a pain in the butt, and there is nothing "un-right" about using a compression seal valve, they seal exactly as well as solder, they are more mechanically sound because they deform the copper pipe, and meet all applicable codes, new built houses get all sweat- on valves because if you're already doing that many joints it's cheaper and easier. E: I managed to sawzall into a couple pipes when I was an electrician, and man does having a couple sizes of shark bite couplings save your rear end in that scenario. I'm not knocking them, and I've struggled enough trying to get compression fittings on lovely old pipes, but for this use case I'd use a comp fitting. Elviscat fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Mar 1, 2019 |
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Rhyno posted:Thought I'd bounce this off you guys before I posted it in DIY Title card: Rhyno learns about home maintenance
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You Am I posted:Title card: Rhyno learns about home maintenance Narrator: It did not go as he had planned.
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meatpimp posted:The shark bit connection that I linked is way better than compression fittings, unless you hate your life. Based on my personal experience, I agree. Maybe they work well on newer copper, but I couldn't get them to seal on 3 of 4 stub-outs in the 1971 remodel I did last year. I would have just sweated new ones if I could, but there was literally zero margin for error with no extra copper, torch access was bad, and a mistake would have meant a miserable amount of work. Every Sharkbite 1/4 turn I installed, worked fine no leaks.
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