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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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I'm psyched for this. Shadow Hearts is a very charming game, but this one is amazing.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Repeating anything you see in this game in a history class will cause you to fail badly.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Brainamp posted:

Look there's always the slim chance there'd be a weird moment of accuracy.

I've played the game. I stand by my statement.

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Aug 23, 2007

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World War 1 is too early, but during World War 2, German troops were issued amphetamine-laced chocolates to keep them awake and alert.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Koudelka barely has any relevance to the first Shadow Hearts.

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Aug 23, 2007

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One thing you can say about the sidequests in SH:C is that they're not boring or particularly forgettable.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Shadow Hearts didn't even have anything particularly weird beyond Alice hitting things with books. Everything else was a pretty standard weapon type that you'd find in other games.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Arcade Rabbit posted:

This might be treading close to spoiler territory, but about how quickly do we get our whole party in this game? Because Keith, and Haley especially, came in really late last game, and then kinda didn't do much of anything after a certain point.

The next two characters show up pretty quickly, one takes a little longer, and the last is pretty late-game with not much to do.

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Aug 23, 2007

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The Dark Id posted:

...OK? What the hell is a "Mr. Sommelier," you ask? Well, let's just look in the Key Items tab of the menu and find it is...



A trading card with French beefcake porn on it, naturally. What else would it be?

What the gently caress, you might be asking yourself now. Well, remember how I said Karin's Wagner manuscripts weren't the most peculiar way to unlock new abilities. Maybe this is related to that statement. We'll slip that into our inventory in the folder labeled "Taxes" or something and move along for now.

This is one of the sidequests I had in mind when I wrote this:

ultrafilter posted:

One thing you can say about the sidequests in SH:C is that they're not boring or particularly forgettable.

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Aug 23, 2007

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DeTosh posted:

That is cool. I'm just a little torn on whether it's weird enough for the game.

Gotta have one normal character to contrast with everyone else.

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Aug 23, 2007

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There are parts of the story in SH:C that work very well, but yeah, it's not gothic horror, and it's not either of its predecessors. On the other hand, the gameplay is just so much better that I can forgive it.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Ubiquitous_ posted:

The Penny Arcade comic about this sidequest is one of the few times I laughed at it.

This is one of the very few occasions where we can post a Penny Arcade strip as something other than an example of everything that's wrong with the world.

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Aug 23, 2007

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GimmickMan posted:

I knew this was the "check the flower pot for gay porn" game but I didn't think it'd play out like this.

...how exactly did you think it would play out?

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Aug 23, 2007

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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

well, he had a stud card in his apartment.

Maybe Karin dropped it when she was changing.

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Aug 23, 2007

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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

there's been porn as long as there has been art. this includes gay porn, because gay people didn't suddenly spring into existence during the late 20th century.

There have been gay people for as long as there have been people, but the degree to which it was socially acceptable has varied a lot over time. I don't know specifics about WWI-era France, but in other times and places there has definitely been underground erotica of some sort. Bodybuilding magazines got their start as hidden softcore porn, for instance.

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Aug 23, 2007

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It's not that much worse than Yuri's regular outfit.

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Aug 23, 2007

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The Dark Id posted:

Tune in next time as Yuri and the gang's adventures continue the French port of Le Harve. You are not yet prepared for who we'll encounter there. Nobody is...

:getin:

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Aug 23, 2007

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Now we learn what kind of game this really is.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I was really hoping that someone would notice the fangs on his character model here, but I guess a WWI-era French luchador vigilante is weird enough on his own for people not to look too closely.

ultrafilter fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Apr 19, 2019

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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It's just not that hard of a game. Playing with your favorite characters, or rotate them around, or pretty much anything else you want to do will work.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I had three separate parties that I rotated through on a regular basis. Yuri and Karin were in each of them, and each of the other characters showed up in one. I don't remember exactly how I split it.

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Aug 23, 2007

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It's genuinely hard not to come off as significantly less weird than Joachim. Don't worry, though; we'll meet those characters eventually.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I'm so sorry.

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Aug 23, 2007

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One of the things I really remember fondly about this game is how well they used character's facial expressions and body language to convey what's going in a scene without needing to spell it out. Veronica's looks as Joachim gets his mask and becomes the Grand Papillon really work to sell how confused she is, and that's something that wasn't really possible with the earlier consoles. I don't know if any other game did it first, but this one did it really well.

It leads to one of the best and most memorable moments in the game a bit later on, and I'm really looking forward to seeing that part.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Cardiovorax posted:

Calvados! The Frenchest booze, right after wine. It's a type of apple brandy. Imagine the flavour of apples with none of the sweetness and all the burn of hard alcohol. It's kind of like that.

There are very few things better than a good Calvados.

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Aug 23, 2007

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It wouldn't be a TDI LP without a heated derail over something incredibly stupid.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Schwartzcough posted:

Ick, was there any indication you should go back into that dungeon for more content, or is this the sort of game that just expects you to go back through completed dungeons "just in case" random minigames have appeared in them?

It's pretty much always the second one. This is from the era when games were very, very bad about requiring strategy guides.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Huh. I forgot that Kato showed up this early. I do remember that mine, though.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Wait, is chin guy still working for the Japanese government, or is this just a vacation to him? That part wasn't totally clear. Well, whatever he's doing he can afford to buy a new kickass cape so I guess he's doing alright.

The Dark Id posted:

It's a tough job, being a diplomat. I just arrived from New York this morning.

It's a living.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I think that as long as I live, I will never, ever forget the parts of this game that involve Joachim's teacher. I just don't have the ability.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I also screwed up the trading quest.

CmdrKing posted:

I wonder if there's any actual blind readers in the thread, and if their wildest guesses could actually capture where this sidequest ends up.

I'm pretty sure I could actually write out some late game events here and no one would believe me.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Tallgeese posted:

I thought it didn't actually matter if you failed the Trading Quest; doesn't the final reward becomes obtainable an alternative way if you do?

Yes, but there's a cutscene you won't see unless you do it right.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I wonder how many people got to this dungeon and just put the game down. It's a real momentum-killer.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I kept Yuri and Karen in my party at all times and then just rotated pairs of the other two. Yuri's the most useful because fusions, and Karen's the most well-rounded of everyone else.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Somehow I remember the voice acting being a lot better. I guess I had low expectations back then.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Just think of how they would've had to convey that on the original Playstation and you'll see why the PS2 was such a big step forward even in RPGs.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Nohman posted:

Not super familiar with that? Care to explain?

Also boy, the tone shift in this game is... I'm not sure how to feel about yet.

Don't worry, you'll get used to it after the next ten shifts.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Everyone seems to have forgotten that Lenny already told them to go to Florence. That's not out of character for Yuri, but it seems a bit odd for the others.

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Aug 23, 2007

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CmdrKing posted:

As we head into the next dungeon, I feel compelled to remind everyone that yes, this is a real video game that was actually released in multiple countries in 2004.

I mean I could say that between every update, but the next one is some prime "are you sure this isn't just a meme" material.

I think it does deserve a reminder that TDI's additions are in italics, and that anything that's in plaintext or screenshots is actually in the game.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Has this come up in the thread before? I think this might be the first mention of it. But yeah, this game came on two DVDs. I still remember opening up the box and wondering what I'd gotten myself into.

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