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sullat
Jan 9, 2012

mlmp08 posted:

The building of that bridge is a trip. 20+ years total, with foundation laying in 2001, funding, canceling under new administration, then recompeting the design/quote idea, then finally starts being built by a Chinese firm in 2014, completed in 2022.

Hm I have an idea about how they can save some money rebuilding the bridge then. Belt and Road is all about investing in infrastructure in underdeveloped countries, right?

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Fell Mood
Jul 2, 2022

A terrible Fell look!

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:


would you like to discuss my rear end??

Does it ever get jealous over the poo poo coming out of your mouth?

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Fell Mood posted:

Does it ever get jealous over the poo poo coming out of your mouth?

?? are you okay?

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

sullat posted:

Century of Humiliation began with the opium wars and the 'unequal' treaties in the 1840s, not the Sino-Japanese war of 1895.

I know but most Chinese consider they have "paybacked the Brits but not properly paybacked the Japanese", I just wanted to name drop CoH in the sentence, don't nitpick mmmkay.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Danann posted:

2 years into a war and the best war understanders still think in GDP.

Deploying the military might of our HFT arbitrage software to assault the frontline

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Danann posted:

2 years into a war and the best war understanders still think in GDP.

our vast legions of financial criminals are definitely a war resource. Look upon our fintech and weep

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
betty voice: The US will lose WW3… to my rear end.

Fell Mood
Jul 2, 2022

A terrible Fell look!

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

?? are you okay?

I'm nearly crippled but still have to go to work, but thanks for asking.

It's just one of my favorite sayings concerning asses. I realize now it came off as needlessly aggressive.

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


Silicon Valley Will Lose WWIII

quote:

Three months before Hamas attacked Israel, Ronen Bar, the director of Shin Bet, Israel’s internal security service, announced that his agency had developed its own generative artificial intelligence platform—similar to ChatGPT—and that the technology had been incorporated quite naturally into the agency’s “interdiction machine,” assisting in decision-making “like a partner at the table, a co-pilot.”

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

stephenthinkpad posted:

I know but most Chinese consider they have "paybacked the Brits but not properly paybacked the Japanese", I just wanted to name drop CoH in the sentence, don't nitpick mmmkay.

also it was the Qing Dynasty

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

I've complained about it before, but I was just checking the schedule again for the light rail station opening near my house and it's been pushed to fall but the entire 65+ billion dollar rail network is now looking at a 2041 completion date lmao. China will probably get to Mars for less money before you can easily take light rail around the Seattle area. By the time Boeing workers could take the rail to work the company probably won't even exist.

They ain't ever rebuilding that Baltimore bridge.

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

stephenthinkpad posted:

China built this railway and road bridge for Bangeldesh last year,
https://x.com/TNGeography/status/1541057347413352449?s=20

3.6 billion USD.

build it and they will cum

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

FuzzySlippers posted:

I've complained about it before, but I was just checking the schedule again for the light rail station opening near my house and it's been pushed to fall but the entire 65+ billion dollar rail network is now looking at a 2041 completion date lmao. China will probably get to Mars for less money before you can easily take light rail around the Seattle area. By the time Boeing workers could take the rail to work the company probably won't even exist.

They ain't ever rebuilding that Baltimore bridge.

:wrong:

president doctor joe biden said he would personally see to it that you and i immediately paid to get the bridge rebuilt successfully and he would never tell a lie

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012

Delta-Wye posted:

:wrong:

president doctor joe biden said he would personally see to it that you and i immediately paid to get the bridge rebuilt successfully and he would never tell a lie

Biden’s death will be used as the excuse why the bridge is never rebuilt.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Delta-Wye posted:

:wrong:

president doctor joe biden said he would personally see to it that you and i immediately paid to get the bridge rebuilt successfully and he would never tell a lie

https://twitter.com/MNateShyamalan/status/1773050647279030304

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

masterpiece is overselling it

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

https://breakingdefense.com/2024/03/towed-artillery-has-reached-end-of-the-effectiveness-army-four-star-declares/?amp=1

Lmao top to bottom here

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

quote:

What’s in, then? Rainey called out the desire to build and field autonomous, robotic cannons that soldiers and special operators can use for entry operations, and, for now, the service “is not wed to any caliber.”
:rubby:

GoLambo
Apr 11, 2006

yeah four golden stickers on that special ed homework buddy

Scallop Eyes
Oct 16, 2021
FF's gonna have an aneurysm reading that

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

nah, all the tbi from artillery going off has inured his brain to aneurysms

Morbus
May 18, 2004


*me, after watching the ukraine/russia war intently for the last 2 years*

"you know, we'd really better get to work on self-propelled, autonomous 58mm robot cannons for use by special operators in entry operations"

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.



KomradeX posted:

How does a person end up like this

His dad wrote the musical "Grease" and procreated, unfortunately.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

stephenthinkpad posted:

I know but most Chinese consider they have "paybacked the Brits but not properly paybacked the Japanese", I just wanted to name drop CoH in the sentence, don't nitpick mmmkay.

most chinese people are weeaboos.

BrotherJayne
Nov 28, 2019

Morbus posted:

*me, after watching the ukraine/russia war intently for the last 2 years*

"you know, we'd really better get to work on self-propelled, autonomous 58mm robot cannons for use by special operators in entry operations"

I mean, he has a point.

If we sent over an arty bat, they'd be mulched inside of a month.

And the survivors crippled with red bag syndrome

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

BrotherJayne posted:

I mean, he has a point.

If we sent over an arty bat, they'd be mulched inside of a month.

And the survivors crippled with red bag syndrome

The issue isn't that they have identified problems...Western artillery is in some ways either behind or not ready for peer to peer conflict, it is just the solution of a fully autonomous SPG drone is a little bit out there if you want anything larger (which seems like a decade+ grift in the making).

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

500excf type r posted:

Which is the bridge crossing a sea

poo poo, uh uh uh, the Ganga of course as it is the embodiment of all sacred waters

fizziester posted:

U.K. General Rob Magoooooowan

Furry howl

BrotherJayne
Nov 28, 2019

Ardennes posted:

The issue isn't that they have identified problems...Western artillery is in some ways either behind or not ready for peer to peer conflict, it is just the solution of a fully autonomous SPG drone is a little bit out there if you want anything larger (which seems like a decade+ grift in the making).

I don't think we can create the conditions under which serious artillerywork could be conducted. Creating a permissive environment would require more gear and effort than we could sustain

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

BrotherJayne posted:

I don't think we can create the conditions under which serious artillerywork could be conducted. Creating a permissive environment would require more gear and effort than we could sustain

It is just it doesn't work under the current ideological framework where the state can't conduct actual direction and at best you could throw billions at some contractors to maybe do something in a decade or two.

There was talk about how bogus GDP is, and it is, but I would argue the US is also undercapitalizing on whatever industrial strength and resources it still has as well. Some of this is the limits of infrastructure, but even then it is really about ideology.

BrotherJayne
Nov 28, 2019

Ardennes posted:

It is just it doesn't work under the current ideological framework where the state can't conduct actual direction and at best you could throw billions at some contractors to maybe do something in a decade or two.

There was talk about how bogus GDP is, and it is, but I would argue the US is also undercapitalizing on whatever industrial strength and resources it still has as well. Some of this is the limits of infrastructure, but even then it is really about ideology.

I mean, we practiced the wrong wars.

As a joke.

Even if we could turn on the spigot, we're behind the eightball and have no tolerance for casualties or bad news days.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

BrotherJayne posted:

I mean, we practiced the wrong wars.

As a joke.

Even if we could turn on the spigot, we're behind the eightball and have no tolerance for casualties or bad news days.

Lmao, someone post that article that argued that US covid policy proved that they are finally over Vietnam era casuality aversion.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

BrotherJayne posted:

I mean, we practiced the wrong wars.

As a joke.

Even if we could turn on the spigot, we're behind the eightball and have no tolerance for casualties or bad news days.

A lot of it also not even the Gulf Wars or even the collapse of the Soviet Union but the US started re-organizing after Vietnam which in general was on mobility, technical sophistication, and air power in a large part to a move away from conscription. The First Gulf War is anything was a little party to show much how of a good job that was done.

At that point it seemed like the entire West was on a one-way path.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Ardennes posted:

It is just it doesn't work under the current ideological framework where the state can't conduct actual direction and at best you could throw billions at some contractors to maybe do something in a decade or two.

There was talk about how bogus GDP is, and it is, but I would argue the US is also undercapitalizing on whatever industrial strength and resources it still has as well. Some of this is the limits of infrastructure, but even then it is really about ideology.

Yeah the only area Biden admin has prepared for war is in semiconductor with the CHIPS act, and neither the TSMC and Samsung plant can be completed because the US government is trying to short change on the promised subsidies.

How is semiconductor going to win you a war? It doesn't. All these billions of spending are rest on untested theories and just excuses to funnel money into new grip. How about spending the money to order 5 times more weapons like tested Tomahawk missiles or Himars or drones?

The problem of preparing for war is just not preparing in the wrong arra, the problem is also the Washington elites don't know how to prepare because all of them are former lawyers. There are no trained engineers in Washington who can plan things properly.

Blaisedell
May 7, 2008

The other day I went to 'Horsepower: The Museum of the King's Royal Hussars' in Winchester, England. I thought it might be worth posting about it in this thread, as the history of the regiments which are now the King's Royal Hussars basically charts the decline of the British Empire. Britain, as we all know, is now the US' hapless vassal, which soon won't be able to produce steel, let alone fight any wars independently.

There were some nice paintings there, which was my favourite bit. Some of the images below are photos I took, but when there was a better image aviailable on the internet, I used that.

I thought the way museum presented various events, particularly post-1945, was also pretty funny/absurd.

Here's the blurb from one of the signs outside the museum:

HORSEPOWER: THE MUSEUM OF THE KING'S ROYAL HUSSARS posted:

The King's Royal Hussars proudly traces its history back for over three hundred years. The museum tells the story of seven famous regiments, and how the Cavalry of horse and sabre developed into the modern Armoured Regiment of today, at the forefront of the British Army. In Hampshire's only Cavalry Museum, discover stories of courage and valour and follow the experiences of those who fought in the Peninsular War, Waterloo, the Charge of the Light Brigade, through the two World Wars, and on operations around the globe to the present day.

Another sign tells the history of the Upper Barracks site, which the museum is located on. There are three other military museums on the Upper Barracks site: The Adjutant General's Corps Museum, The Gurkha Museum, and the Royal Green Jackets (Rifles) Museum.

quote:

On this historic site, William the Conqueror built a royal castle (1067), which was extended by King Henry III (1216-72). The castle was besieged by Oliver Cromwell during the English Civil War (1645) and, after its occupants had surrendered, was partially demolished in 1651.

In 1683 King Charles Il chose the site for a palace overlooking Winchester Cathedral. but, following his death in 1685, it was never completed.

In the 18th century the palace, known as The King's House and in an increasingly neglected state, was used to accommodate French, Spanish and Dutch prisoners captured during the Seven Years' War (1756-63) and the American War of Independence (1775-83).

In 1796 the site was leased from the Crown for use as a military barracks which it remained for almost 200 years. During the Second World War the barracks housed American troops preparing to take part in the 1944 D Day landings in Normandy.

In 1994 the Ministry of Defence relinquished its occupation of most of the site, subsequently developed for housing, with three buildings retained for use by Winchester's Military Museums.

Much of the site is now, of course, housing.

On to the actual Horsepower museum:



Most of the museum is about the history of the 10th and 11th Hussars Regiments, who were in involved in many of the Empire's most glorious victories/heinous crimes, as shown on the Regimental gong for the 11th Hussars:



I do like their guidons though:



The 10th/11th Hussars started off as Dragoons. 'The Scouts' by William Barnes Wollen 'shows a patrol of 10th Light Dragoons somewhere in Spain or Portugal during the Peninsular War. Woollen completed this work in 1902, nearly 100 years after the war. He made a mistake: the "busby bag" should hang over the right side of the busby (fur hat).' Stupid William, getting the bag on the wrong side of the silly hat.

'The Scouts' by William Barnes Wolle posted:


They fought in Waterloo. Here are some cool swords and other artefacts from around then:



For those who are interested, the top sword is a light cavalry officer's sword, 1796 pattern, the centre one is a 1781 pattern sword and scabbard, and the bottom one is a sword used at Waterloo.

Later they took part in the Empire's crimes in India:

'The Girls We Left Behind' by Thomas Jones Barker posted:


"The British Empire posted:


... Drill Order, showing the wonderful spectacle of the 10th Hussars galloping in long ranks over the plain (Maidan) in India. This must be in the winter months as they are wearing their blue stable dress as opposed to the white summer uniform. The shakos still have the white quilted cover. The officers are out front, wearing dress pouchbelts. The men wear white leather pouchbelts and all of them have a black leather sabretache slung from their waistbelt. The front rank hold their swords at the ready while the rear rank rest the blade on the right shoulder. The regimental field days were commanded by the CO in the vicinity of Kirkee but later there were divisional field days in Poona.

Both the 10th and 11th Hussars fought in the Crimean War, with the 11th participating in the Charge of the Light Brigade at the Battle of Balaclava.



Balaclava by Lady Butler shows the remnants of the Light Brigade after the charge:

Balaclava by Lady Butler posted:


The museum has a large memorial stone to 'Crimean Bob':



25 years of service and he was never off sick? Can you imagine a zoomer horse doing that? Kids just don't want to work these days.

Here's how the museum explains the 10th Hussars fighting in Sudan:

quote:

Egypt asked Britain for help to defeat a rebellion by Sudanese nationalists. The 10th Hussars, who were sailing home after 11 years in India, were ordered off their troopship in the Red Sea to join a British Expeditionary Force.

After the Suez Canal opened in 1869, sea journeys to India were several weeks shorter. The British government was a major shareholder in the Canal. Trouble in Egyptian-ruled Sudan threatened the route to India and Britain's other possessions in the Far East.

The Sudanese rebels had defeated two Egyptian forces led by British officers. One of them was a former
Commanding Officer of the 10th Hussars, General Valentine Baker.

As they had handed over their horses to another regiment in India, the 10th Hussars borrowed some Egyptian army horses.These were small, difficult to control and poorly equipped, but they were tough and could go for 24 hours without water.

The Expeditionary Force met the rebels and beat them at the Battle of El Teb on 29 February. By April the 10th Hussars were back in England. In October 45 soldiers volunteered to return to Egypt for 8 months. They served in the Light Camel Corps of the Nile Expedition sent to relieve General Gordon in Karthoum.

Charge of the 10th at El Teb by GD Giles posted:


The 10th and 11th Hussars fought in the Boer War as well:

'10th Hussars racing the Boers for a Kopje above the Modder River' by G.D. Giles posted:


There wasn't that much of interest in the museum about WWI and WWII, but they were very sad about losing their horses/mechanisation, which I can understand, as Daimler Dingo just isn't the same.

They also lost a tank to treacle:

Post-war the 10th/11th were sent off to try and prop up Britain's failing empire and fight against people struggling for their liberation.

quote:

Malaya 1953 - 56
The 11th Hussars went to the British colony of Malaya for three years on an "accompanied" tour (with wives and children). Much of their time was spent fighting Chinese communist inspired terrorists.

They carried out patrols and road checks, provided convoy escorts and dealt with ambushes.
In 1957 the country gained its independence within the Commonwealth as Malaysia.

Jordan 1955 - 57
The 10th Hussars spent nearly two years in Aqaba, on the Red Sea, helping to defend Jordan. When Egypt nationalised and closed the Suez Canal in 1956 they were cut off from Britain. Supplies took the long route round the Cape or came by air through Iraq.

South Arabia 1964 - 65
Several rival terrorist organisations fought each other and the British for independence and control of Aden, an important port near the entrance to the Red Sea.
The 10th Hussars spent a year operating on the borders with Yemen and also in Oman. Aden became part of Yemen 1967 which is still split by an intermittent civil war.

Here's some British anti-communist propaganda:



The 10th and 11th Hussars also apparently protected us from the 'threat of Soviet communism'. Lol at the "Did you know?' at the bottom.



The 10th and 11th were amalgamated to form the Royal Hussars in 1969.



Hmm, I wonder why Britain's colonies became independent countries?

The Royal Hussars later adopted Challenger tanks:


TOP SECRET INVINCIBLE CHOBHAM ARMOUR DO NOT STEAL POST ON WAR THUNDER FORUMS

Okay, here's the next stage of decline. 'In December 1992, after a short but full life lasting 23 years, The Royal Hussars amalgamated with the 14th/20th King's Hussars.' A short but full life? What does that mean?



'The world felt safer' lol. At least food for soldiers is apparently 'plentiful' now.

That's about where the museum ends. I understand that the museum was refurbished in 2006, so it probably hasn't been updated since then. Not that there's much to update on. So what's next for the King's Royal Hussars and British decline? How much further do we have to fall?

Well, as it turns out, quite far, as the Hussars will be losing their Challenger 2 tanks and gaining Ajax vehicles, in 2025 apparently. Yes, the ones that cause 'excessive levels of noise and vibration' for their occupants... :britain:

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Weka posted:

poo poo, uh uh uh, the Ganga of course as it is the embodiment of all sacred waters

Furry howl

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
the british had a big garrison at poona because it was the erstwhile capital of the maratha confederacy.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

On the one hand, very cool.

On the other, rubbing salt on the wound, since Firepower, the museum of the Royal Artillery is still closed and without a new home for the collection in sight.

loving Hussars.

e: but fr, as someone who has at various times worn both a busby (our pattern is the same as the Hussars) and the 1821 Light Cavalry sabre, I can tell you're a man after my own heart. Excellent post.

ee: Which regiment of British Hussars was it that ran over a German family's car during exercises? (I believe the Americans also did this twice in the 80's)

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 17:22 on Mar 28, 2024

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

On the one hand, very cool.

On the other, rubbing salt on the wound, since Firepower, the museum of the Royal Artillery is still closed and without a new home for the collection in sight.

loving Hussars.

e: but fr, as someone who has at various times worn both a busby (our pattern is the same as the Hussars) and the 1821 Light Cavalry sabre, I can tell you're a man after my own heart. Excellent post.

ff what do you think about towed artillery being done forever and replaced with autonomous robot spgs

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Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




lodging all my hussies in poona ftw

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