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Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



:munch:

you would think that U.S. FORCES should have the capability to defend themselves

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BearsBearsBears
Aug 4, 2022

D-Pad posted:

I just saw a video that said f35s sold for export can't startup without a password provided by the US and the password changes daily. Basically meaning the US has to authorize every single flight. This sounds untrue but also I can absolutely see the US doing this. It also said Israel f35s are the one exception.

Is this real because LOL

I've heard it as being two codes, one to fly to the plane and a second one that unlocks weapons somehow.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

it's called "dlc"

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

South Korea's F35 fighter jet needs a U.S. password to start up every day - Straturka

www.straturka.com - Mon, 12 Dec 2022 posted:

Recently, according to media reports, the F-35 fighter jets purchased by the South Korean Air Force from the United States have been delivered in 2019. South Korea has used the F-35 fighter jets for more than two years. However, it is rumored that the use of F-35 fighter jets is strictly controlled by the U.S. military. Outsiders are not allowed to approach at will.

Even the startup password of the aircraft’s data system is changed every day. Every morning, the U.S. Air Force sends the password and the South Korean enters it to boot. If the system cannot be turned on, the entire aircraft cannot be started because the F-35 is too advanced and the internal dashboard of the aircraft And the operating system is basically a few large LCD screens and a small number of mechanical instruments, far more advanced than the Russian Su-27, which is full of mechanical instruments and manual buttons.

Source: min.news

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

fits my needs posted:

quote:

“Where the Russians have a real advantage over the United States is they have weapons, and they sell weapons, including helicopters,” the senior U.S. official said. “And they sell small arms. There are a lot of security challenges in Africa and Africans need weapons.”
What? Arming natives? You can't do that, they'll just turn the guns on you afterward when you try to take over for yourself. What do you mean you're not going to? You can't do that! You can't just have non-oppressed natives, that's not what the word native means. Now pull yourselves back together, put on that safari hat, and oppress the poor locals like a responsible part of the world order.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




LMAO this is why we have these african states say that the US needs to learn to respect the people they work with. Russia just has to come in and sell them equipment that isnt john deer levels of defense as a service.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Real hurthling! posted:

the year is 2049. america has filled low earth orbit with a thick cloud of sleeping mortar bomblets/solar reflectors. climate change and squad level weapons doctrine are both never thought of again.

i crash the cradles

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Jon Pod Van Damm posted:

:munch:

you would think that U.S. FORCES should have the capability to defend themselves

They can just leave

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011



Ok so what happens in the entirely predictable situation where ww3 kicks off with a massive cyberattack that cripples telecommunications and you need jets in the air ten minutes ago

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Justin Tyme posted:

Ok so what happens in the entirely predictable situation where ww3 kicks off with a massive cyberattack that cripples telecommunications and you need jets in the air ten minutes ago

better hope someone wrote down today's passcode

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016
So...what happens during a mission when the codes expire? Do they just fall out of the sky?

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011


lol oh come the gently caress on

BearsBearsBears
Aug 4, 2022

Justin Tyme posted:

Ok so what happens in the entirely predictable situation where ww3 kicks off with a massive cyberattack that cripples telecommunications and you need jets in the air ten minutes ago

The US will lose WW3

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Well obviously US strategic planners expect a minimum 24 hours notice before the start of world war 3.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

e operating system is basically a few large LCD screens and a small number of mechanical instruments, far more advanced than the Russian Su-27, which is full of mechanical instruments and manual buttons.

thread title hahah

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

just come up a keygen like for cracked copies of adobe photoshop back in the day

OrangéJéllo
Aug 31, 2001

yellowcar posted:

just come up a keygen like for cracked copies of adobe photoshop back in the day

guarantee you these things phone home to verify, which raises all kinds of questions about traceability and the level of hardening whatever server they're calling has.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

yellowcar posted:

just come up a keygen like for cracked copies of adobe photoshop back in the day

If it resulted in more sick keygen chiptunes then I back this wholeheartedly.

BearsBearsBears
Aug 4, 2022

euphronius posted:

The operating system is basically a few large LCD screens and a small number of mechanical instruments, far more advanced than the Russian Su-27, which is full of mechanical instruments and manual buttons.

thread title hahah

The F-35 has an honest to god touchscreen, I always assumed it was just a multi-function display. Touchscreen-operated and doesn't work in the rain, it really is the Cybertruck of fighter aircraft.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

After seeing how the F-104 and F-16 sales were managed, and the pointed destruction of NATO aviation industries, as well as the refusal that any F-35s be built under license, the export customers teed themselves up for this.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

some post from 11 years ago claims this but I can't find a source. anyone?

quote:

The Austrian Army got the Eurofighter Typhoon a few years ago, and even though it's a European-built aircraft, it contains US-American components, one of them being crypto-related. On the airfield where these planes are stationed, they have offices for US-American personnel whose sole job is to regularly update crypto keys in these components. And nobody seems to give a flying gently caress.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

After seeing how the F-104 and F-16 sales were managed, and the pointed destruction of NATO aviation industries, as well as the refusal that any F-35s be built under license, the export customers teed themselves up for this.

im glad Turkey got kicked out

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

mawarannahr posted:

some post from 11 years ago claims this but I can't find a source. anyone?

There was a poster in iirc the Ukraine thread who was a maintainer on Eurofighters. Forget who it is though.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

lol what if the enemy jams your communications or something and you cant get the password? you're just hosed ?

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

I dare you to call it a perm again..

yellowcar posted:

just come up a keygen like for cracked copies of adobe photoshop back in the day

I want this, and the glass cockpit bootup is all gradient-colored 8bit ASCII characters waving in a sine pattern to hype rear end chiptune music

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



you can still fly but there's an obnoxious watermark over all the instruments

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

OctaMurk posted:

lol what if the enemy jams your communications or something and you cant get the password? you're just hosed ?

Yes.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Owlbear Camus posted:

you can still fly but there's an obnoxious watermark over all the instruments

i miss the good old days of shareware and infinitely long trials

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Owlbear Camus posted:

you can still fly but there's an obnoxious watermark over all the instruments

Unregistered HyperCam 2 blocking the altimeter causing the plane to lawn dart itself

BearsBearsBears
Aug 4, 2022
Everybody is laughing about DLC for planes like it isn't a thing that already exists. The Boeing 737 Max had an indicator light that you had to pay extra for that told you if the the attitude sensors disagreed.

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



OrangéJéllo posted:

guarantee you these things phone home to verify, which raises all kinds of questions about traceability and the level of hardening whatever server they're calling has.

Cryptographically, you don't need to phone home to use a daily password, especially with GPS providing an accurate time stamp.

Realistically, the plane is going to try connecting to every open wifi it can, to update the ads on the bottom of the touch screen.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

lol its a real shame nukes exist

the west would get so loving stomped. The US would be fierce for the first month and then the ammo would run out. The rest of NATO would fold on the second day.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

American morale would collapse in hours in a real war

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Justin Tyme posted:

Ok so what happens in the entirely predictable situation where ww3 kicks off with a massive cyberattack that cripples telecommunications and you need jets in the air ten minutes ago

*taps thread title*

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Just reminded of all the crypto mishaps we use to have as keys rolled over and someone forgot to get replacements but its happening every day and the north koreans are attacking

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
The US is bothered more by Iranian F14s than its allies being able to defend themselves

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
&



A weapon to surpass metal gear.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Furiously searching for an F-35 keygen on the War Thunder forums as Russian strategic bombers cross into Baltic airspace.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

jetz0r posted:

Cryptographically, you don't need to phone home to use a daily password, especially with GPS providing an accurate time stamp

In the opening moments of WW3 Russia blows up the gps constellation and every single wunderwaffe bricks because it cant get time updates

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Danann
Aug 4, 2013


the us brought some robodogs off the shelf for a few grand with flamethrowers

the russians strapped a thermobaric grenade to an fpv drone

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