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Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010

Danann posted:

the mre guy? he's got his chair merchandise now?

The computer steve not the mre steve

https://www.youtube.com/user/GamersNexus

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# ? May 7, 2024 04:33

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

dunno about the mre guy but if the MIC boondoggles had as good reporting as gamer jesus does for lovely pc boondoggles, it'd be a lot funnier to keep up with

# ? Apr 26, 2024 04:10

rudecyrus: Nov 6, 2009; fuck you trolls

Cao Ni Ma posted:

The computer steve not the mre steve

https://www.youtube.com/user/GamersNexus

yeah his video about the lovely quality of gaming chairs compared to dedicated office chairs was enlightening

edit: lol it was mentioned on the previous page

# ? Apr 26, 2024 04:19

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

https://x.com/Forbes/status/1783760469733388372

https://archive.ph/Bux0D

quote:

In February, hundreds of people converged on Sand Hill Road for a party thrown by Andreessen Horowitz and the defense contractor Anduril to send a loud message: America is under threat and now is the time to build.

Many attendees were tracking the arrival of a group of mostly male twenty-something entrepreneurs who call themselves the �Gundo Bros.� They were posting live updates of their journey on a party bus from El Segundo, the neighborhood adjacent to LAX airport and home to major defense contractors. Sporting mullets, chewing on nicotine pouches, and crushing energy drinks, the group sang patriotic songs while charging up the Pacific 101 Highway. At one point, they stopped on the side of the road to pray � and to launch a drone. Tracking their antics from afar on X, A16z founder Marc Andreessen spurred them on: �Drive faster, the party�s starting!�

....

Entrepreneur Isaiah Taylor, who started his nuclear reactor company, Valar Atomics, in El Segundo last summer, described the �Gundo founder� zeitgeist as, essentially, a 1950�s cigarette ad. �The vibe is that America is back, dudes rock, nicotine is good actually, we�re going to the moon again (and Mars), we�re tired of only software companies coming out of America,� he wrote in a message to Forbes. �It�s good and awesome to defend our country and to build weapon systems that do that.�

...

Just a few years ago, university campuses were protesting the recruiting efforts of defense contractors like Palantir. But conflicts in Ukraine, Gaza, and rising tensions with China, have made the idea of El Segundo a dog whistle for patriotic college students looking to build tech for the battlefield. "Talking about defense in the classroom was a taboo," said Rasmus Dey Meyer, a Georgetown University student who hosted a hackathon in El Segundo earlier this year. "You'd get eyes if you were seen as an advocate of the defense tech industry."

...

# ? Apr 26, 2024 08:36

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Ford made a video for the Gundo Bros article so you don't have to read

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AFpcJPgHUM

What I am getting from this article is a bunch of billionaires are all trying to out SNL EMusk, expect more MIC oriented. But what weapons they are building, I have no idea.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 08:53

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

Building? Wtf is that

# ? Apr 26, 2024 09:37

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

Get a couple B from the DOD for R&D and take it easy.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 09:40

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

I guarantee every single one of those assholes is an idea guy and their mentality is that they come up with and develop the next wunderwaffe and the actual building of the thing will be outsourced to some boring manufacturing company they don't realise doesn't exist in America

# ? Apr 26, 2024 09:53

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

https://x.com/MilitaryTimes/status/1783585784521531710

# ? Apr 26, 2024 10:10

Officer Sandvich: Feb 14, 2010

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/us/politics/ukraine-new-american-technology.html

In Ukraine, New American Technology Won the Day. Until It Was Overwhelmed.

quote:

The idea triggered a full-scale revolt on the Google campus.

Six years ago, the Silicon Valley giant signed a small, $9 million contract to put the skills of a few of its most innovative developers to the task of building an artificial intelligence tool that would help the military detect potential targets on the battlefield using drone footage.

Engineers and other Google employees argued that the company should have nothing to do with Project Maven, even if it was designed to help the military discern between civilians and militants.

The uproar forced the company to back out, but Project Maven didn’t die — it just moved to other contractors. Now, it has grown into an ambitious experiment being tested on the front lines in Ukraine, forming a key component of the U.S. military’s effort to funnel timely information to the soldiers fighting Russian invaders.

So far the results are mixed: Generals and commanders have a new way to put a full picture of Russia’s movements and communications into one big, user-friendly picture, employing algorithms to predict where troops are moving and where attacks might happen.

But the American experience in Ukraine has underscored how difficult it is to get 21st-century data into 19th-century trenches. Even with Congress on the brink of providing tens of billions of dollars in aid to Kyiv, mostly in the form of ammunition and long-range artillery, the question remains whether the new technology will be enough to help turn the tide of the war at a moment when the Russians appear to have regained momentum.

[....]

“At the end of the day this became our laboratory,” said Lt. Gen. Christopher T. Donahue, commander of the 18th Airborne Division, who is known as “the last man in Afghanistan” because he ran the evacuation of the airport in Kabul in August 2021, before resuming his work infusing the military with new technology.

And despite the early concerns at Google over participation in Project Maven, some of the industry’s most prominent figures are at work on national security issues, underscoring how the United States is harnessing its competitive advantage in technology to maintain superiority over Russia and China in an era of renewed superpower rivalries.

[....]

But if Russia’s brutal assault on Ukraine has been a testing ground for the Pentagon’s drive to embrace advanced technology, it has also been a bracing reminder of the limits of technology to turn the war.

Ukraine’s ability to repel the invasion arguably hinges more on renewed deliveries of basic weapons and ammunition, especially artillery shells.

The first two years of the conflict have also shown that Russia is adapting, much more quickly than anticipated, to the technology that gave Ukraine an initial edge.

[....]

Not surprisingly, all these discoveries are pouring into a series of “lessons learned” studies, conducted at the Pentagon and NATO headquarters in Brussels, in case NATO troops ever find themselves in direct combat with President Vladimir V. Putin’s forces. Among them is the discovery that when new technology meets the brutality of old-fashioned trench warfare, the results are rarely what Pentagon planners expected.

“For a while we thought this would be a cyberwar,’’ Gen. Mark A. Milley, who retired last year as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, said last summer. “Then we thought it was looking like an old-fashioned World War II tank war.”

Then, he said, there were days when it seemed as though they were fighting World War I.

More than a thousand miles west of Ukraine, deep inside an American base in the heart of Europe, is the intelligence-gathering center that has become the focal point of the effort to bring the allies and the new technology together to target Russian forces.

Visitors are discouraged in “the Pit,” as the center is known. American officials rarely discuss its existence, in part because of security concerns, but mostly because the operation raises questions about how deeply involved the United States is in the day-to-day business of finding and killing Russian troops.

The technology in use there evolved from Project Maven. But a version provided to Ukraine was designed in a way that does not rely on the input of the most sensitive American intelligence or advanced systems.

[....]

By the time the Ukraine war was brewing, Project Maven’s elements were being designed and built by nearly five dozen firms, from Virginia to California.

Yet there was one commercial company that proved most successful in putting it all together on what the Pentagon calls a “single pane of glass”: Palantir, a company co-founded in 2003 by Peter Thiel, the billionaire conservative-libertarian, and Alex Karp, its chief executive.

Palantir focuses on organizing, and visualizing, masses of data. But it has often found itself at the center of a swirling debate about when building a picture of the battlefield could contribute to overly automated decisions to kill.

Early versions of Project Maven, relying on Palantir’s technology, had been deployed by the U.S. government during the COVID-19 pandemic and the Kabul evacuation operation, to coordinate resources and track readiness. “We had this torrent of data but humans couldn’t process it all,” General Shanahan said.

Project Maven quickly became the standout success among the Pentagon’s many efforts to tiptoe into algorithmic warfare, and soon incorporated feeds from nearly two dozen other Defense Department programs and commercial sources into an unprecedented common operating picture for the U.S. military.

But it had never been to war.

Early one morning after the Russian invasion, a top American military official and one of Ukraine’s most senior generals met on the Polish border to talk about a new technology that might help the Ukrainians repel the Russians.

The American had a computer tablet in his car, operating Project Maven through Palantir’s software and connected to a Starlink terminal.

His tablet’s display showed many of the same intelligence feeds that the operators in the Pit were seeing, including the movement of Russian armored units and the chatter among the Russian forces as they fumbled their way to Kyiv.

[....]

The Ukrainian was impressed — and angry. American forces should be fighting alongside the Ukrainians, he said.

“We can’t do that,” the American responded, explaining that Mr. Biden forbade it. What the United States can provide, he said, is an evolving picture of the battlefield.

Today a similar tension continues to play out inside the Pit, where each day a careful dance is underway. The military has taken seriously Mr. Biden’s mandate that the United States should not directly target Russians. The president has said that Russia must not be allowed to win, but that the United States must also “avoid World War III.”

So, the Americans point the Ukrainians in the right direction but stop short of giving them precise targeting data.

[....]

This flow of information helped Ukraine target Russia’s artillery. But the initial hope that the picture of the battlefield would flow to soldiers in the trenches, connected to phones or tablets, has never been realized, field commanders say.

One key to the system was Starlink, the Elon Musk-provided mesh of satellites, which was often the only thing connecting soldiers to headquarters, or to one another. That reinforced what was already becoming blindingly obvious: Starlink’s network of 4,700 satellites proved nearly as good as — and sometimes better than — the United States’ billion-dollar systems, one White House official said.

[....]

The mission of remaking Ukraine’s drone fleet has captivated Mr. Schmidt, the former chief executive of Google.

[....]

But by the fall of 2023 he began to worry that Ukraine’s innovative edge alone would not be enough. Russia’s population was too big and too willing to sacrifice, oil prices remained high, China was still supplying the Russians with key technologies and parts — while they also sold to the Ukrainians.

[....]

So Mr. Schmidt began funding a different vision, one that is now, after the Ukraine experience, gaining adherents in the Pentagon: far more inexpensive, autonomous drones, which would launch in swarms and talk to each other even if they lost their connection to human operators on the ground. The idea is a generation of new weapons that would learn to evade Russian air defenses and reconfigure themselves if some drones in the swarm were shot down.

[....]

“There’s an awful lot of moral issues here,” Mr. Schmidt acknowledged, noting that these systems would create another round of the long-running debates about targeting based on artificial intelligence, even as the Pentagon insists that it will maintain “appropriate levels of human judgment over the use of force.”

He also came to a harsh conclusion: This new version of warfare would likely be awful.

“Ground troops, with drones circling overhead, know they’re constantly under the watchful eyes of unseen pilots a few kilometers away,” Mr. Schmidt wrote last year. “And those pilots know they are potentially in opposing cross hairs watching back. … This feeling of exposure and lethal voyeurism is everywhere in Ukraine.”

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oscarthewilde: May 16, 2012; I would often go there
To the tiny church there

Officer Sandvich posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/us/politics/ukraine-new-american-technology.html

In Ukraine, New American Technology Won the Day. Until It Was Overwhelmed.

as much as the west's whining about the existential threat posed by the war in Ukraine, it's always felt more like the spanish civil war than the second world war. by sending materiel into action, they've got a (relatively) risk free way of testing the combat viability of all our great western doctrine and Wunderwaffe without running serious personal risk.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 11:03

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

oscarthewilde posted:

as much as the west's whining about the existential threat posed by the war in Ukraine, it's always felt more like the spanish civil war than the second world war. by sending materiel into action, they've got a (relatively) risk free way of testing the combat viability of all our great western doctrine and Wunderwaffe without running serious personal risk.

I would say the problem with that, is they were conducting it against another power. So that power got the experience and started ramping up production and while they just sat back. It was true that it was cheap and low risk up front, but they couldn't comprehend that the Russians were ever getting better.

I don't think the Russians actually want to go to Berlin, but on the other hand, they have developed a force that is more than capable of taking on the Moldovans, Azerbaijans, or pretty much any NATO state that wants to YOLO.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 11:07 on Apr 26, 2024

# ? Apr 26, 2024 11:05

Isentropy: Dec 12, 2010

rudecyrus posted:

yeah his video about the lovely quality of gaming chairs compared to dedicated office chairs was enlightening

edit: lol it was mentioned on the previous page

Lol honestly if I clear probation here, I'm buying the computers they use for AutoCAD and CFD work. Never buy anything for "gamers". Buy what like specialized aerospace companies use. Less LEDs and meant to last years

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Halser: Aug 24, 2016

fits my needs posted:

https://x.com/MilitaryTimes/status/1783585784521531710

cultural marxism

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DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

There averaging this against the soldiers who are on food stamps and missing meals.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 14:59

sullat: Jan 9, 2012

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

There averaging this against the soldiers who are on food stamps and missing meals.

Poverty leads towards obesity though since what you can afford is mostly stuff that's been pumped chock-full of HFCS to make it palatable.

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Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

the first soldier carries the gut. when the first soldier falls, the second soldier picks up the gut

# ? Apr 26, 2024 15:05

Cabbages and VHS: Aug 25, 2004; Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

razor 1911

I helped run a small local currier group in the mid 90s, this is one of the few places that technical correctness matters a lot to me

# ? Apr 26, 2024 15:06

Delta-Wye: Sep 29, 2005

fits my needs posted:

https://x.com/MilitaryTimes/status/1783585784521531710

theyd rather ~~save~~ extract a buck by outsourcing to a cheapass company that would (sometimes) provide the soldiers plastic food product instead of just feeding enlisted folks, this isn't getting fixed lol

# ? Apr 26, 2024 15:11

AmyL: Aug 8, 2013; Black Thursday was a disaster, plain and simple.
We lost too many good people, too many planes.
We can't let that kind of tragedy happen again.

fits my needs posted:

https://x.com/MilitaryTimes/status/1783585784521531710

Everything old is new again

https://www.deseret.com/1991/9/30/18943741/military-s-fat-boy-program-is-unfit-scale/

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/oby.20978

https://en.topwar.ru/27677-bolee-poloviny-vsego-voinskogo-sostava-ssha-stradaet-ot-izbytochnogo-vesa-a-tret-zloupotreblyaet-alkogolem.html

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:12

Delta-Wye: Sep 29, 2005

AmyL posted:

https://en.topwar.ru/27677-bolee-poloviny-vsego-voinskogo-sostava-ssha-stradaet-ot-izbytochnogo-vesa-a-tret-zloupotreblyaet-alkogolem.html

quote:

The report also cites some rather alarming figures related to alcohol abuse among the military. Neither more nor less - one third of the servicemen stated that they had participated in drunkenness over the past 30 days. At the same time, the worst indicators on alcohol abuse were recorded among marines: every second said that he had consumed alcohol in large quantities in the last 30 days.

ooorah

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:19

AmyL: Aug 8, 2013; Black Thursday was a disaster, plain and simple.
We lost too many good people, too many planes.
We can't let that kind of tragedy happen again.

Delta-Wye posted:

ooorah

And that was from 2013.

Let me throw a few more out here.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK235960/ Body Composition and Physical Performance: Applications For the Military Services. Not FF and Grad would like this one

https://www.jstor.org/stable/45305346 1992 Obesity and Its Relation to Physical Fitness in the U.S. Military

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281639729_Military_Youth_and_Obesity_A_Review_of_the_Existing_Literature_1990-2014

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:23

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

It ties back into the recurring thing we've talked about where every aspect of military life is getting worse, while the people in charge want to fight a victorious world war against Russia and China. It reminds me of the British Army in Crimea, but at least then Lord Cardigan was criticized for it and Florence Nightingale and the other reformers improved things.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:24

AmyL: Aug 8, 2013; Black Thursday was a disaster, plain and simple.
We lost too many good people, too many planes.
We can't let that kind of tragedy happen again.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

It ties back into the recurring thing we've talked about where every aspect of military life is getting worse, while the people in charge want to fight a victorious world war against Russia and China. It reminds me of the British Army in Crimea, but at least then Lord Cardigan was criticized for it and Florence Nightingale and the other reformers improved things.

Wars are fought and won by men, not by machines. The human dimension of war will be decisive in the battles and campaign of the future just as it has been in the past.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:26

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

i learned that from the after action voice clips in Gen. Chuck Yeager (ret.)'s Air Combat

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:27

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

Right, but we have a ruling class that has been taught, if there's one thing they took away from it, to ignore the human dimension of anything, and to deliberately contravene the human dimension of anything policy related as a sign of seriousness.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:27

AmyL: Aug 8, 2013; Black Thursday was a disaster, plain and simple.
We lost too many good people, too many planes.
We can't let that kind of tragedy happen again.

Real hurthling! posted:

i learned that from the after action voice clips in Gen. Chuck Yeager (ret.)'s Air Combat

Did it provide a source?

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:27

AmyL: Aug 8, 2013; Black Thursday was a disaster, plain and simple.
We lost too many good people, too many planes.
We can't let that kind of tragedy happen again.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Right, but we have a ruling class that has been taught, if there's one thing they took away from it, to ignore the human dimension of anything, and to deliberately contravene the human dimension of anything policy related as a sign of seriousness.

Yeesh DDJIB-DJDCT or whoever you are under the mask, that is a syq.

quote:

Wars are fought and won by men, not by machines. The human dimension of war will be decisive in the battles and campaign of the future just as it has been in the past.

Field Manual 100-5 Operations Fort Monore, VA: U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command, May 1986

AmyL has issued a correction as of 17:33 on Apr 26, 2024

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:29

Pistol_Pete: Sep 15, 2007; Oven Wrangler

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

It ties back into the recurring thing we've talked about where every aspect of military life is getting worse, while the people in charge want to fight a victorious world war against Russia and China. It reminds me of the British Army in Crimea, but at least then Lord Cardigan was criticized for it and Florence Nightingale and the other reformers improved things.

Makes me think of that article I read a while ago where they mentioned that educated middle class Russians were increasingly seeing the armed forces as a viable career path, with the clear implication that the author was rather baffled by and disapproving of this.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:33

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

AmyL posted:

Did it provide a source?

well it was chuck saying it

he would also say "you bought the farm" if you crashed

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:35

sullat: Jan 9, 2012

AmyL posted:

Did it provide a source?

quote:

Man has killed man from the beginning of time, and each new frontier has brought new ways and new places to die. Why should the future be different?
Col. Corazon Santiago "Planet: A Survivalist's Guide"

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:39

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

Pistol_Pete posted:

Makes me think of that article I read a while ago where they mentioned that educated middle class Russians were increasingly seeing the armed forces as a viable career path, with the clear implication that the author was rather baffled by and disapproving of this.

The standard text on this for western militaries is about how the Danish, Canadian and Bulgarian militaries have been destroyed since 1991, with the case of Bulgaria being night and day.

Despite persistent attempts at political education, the officer corps, and senior rank and file, of the Bulgarian military are nostalgic for the People�s Republic because they remember high wages, benefits, social cache, housing, and there�s much hand wringing about how we can teach them to believe that things are good, actually.

e: and they couldn�t understand why they were being sent to Iraq and Afghanistan, what they were supposed to do there, or why Bulgaria should participate in NATO missions like that. That section was particularly funny because the authors won�t allow themselves to understand why the Bulgarian military wasn�t excited that this was the �price� of EU membership and NATO expansion.

The Baltics and Poland are the only countries feeling this poo poo, so why don�t we just let them do it all?

To give you a counterexample of how things have changed, German troops in Bosnia and Kosovo were �upset� and �despondent� at being compared to, and comparing themselves to, the Wehrmacht occupying Yugoslavia and even (probably like four guys tbh) the Imperial German Army occupying Serbia in WW1.

Where now, I feel like even the pretence is gone as the German Army is based in Poland and the Baltics. They aren�t trying to manage contradictions because without the DDR they don�t need to create a counterexample to the Third Reich, I guess.

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 17:51 on Apr 26, 2024

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:41

AmyL: Aug 8, 2013; Black Thursday was a disaster, plain and simple.
We lost too many good people, too many planes.
We can't let that kind of tragedy happen again.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Right, but we have a ruling class that has been taught, if there's one thing they took away from it, to ignore the human dimension of anything, and to deliberately contravene the human dimension of anything policy related as a sign of seriousness.

There were studies done and incentives provided for people joining the US military around the early 2000s

Purchasing a decent, three-bedroom house for under $200k in a garrison town.

Free healthcare for US servicemen but not universally free for civilians

Continuous and further education part of the working culture

Through the pension after 20 years of service is excellent, there are no lump sum payments on retirement.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:44

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

They thought that would work in Bulgaria, that (couched in liberal speak) things getting worse generally would make the military attractive by comparison, but it fed that cycle of soldiers answering favourably about socialism and disliking the government.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:53

AmyL: Aug 8, 2013; Black Thursday was a disaster, plain and simple.
We lost too many good people, too many planes.
We can't let that kind of tragedy happen again.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

They thought that would work in Bulgaria, that (couched in liberal speak) things getting worse generally would make the military attractive by comparison, but it fed that cycle of soldiers answering favourably about socialism and disliking the government.

I'm trying to remember where I got everything.

https://web.archive.org/web/20030101180134/www.rotc.monroe.army.mil/helpdesk/enrollments-1/service%20obligations.htm

Maybe I was thinking the slides from "State of the Youth Market" from Garcia?

Or "Increasing Army Retention through Incentives" U.S Army War College Research Project around 2006

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA448815.pdf

quote:

As the U.S. Military continues to use an all-volunteer force to recruit soldiers into the
Army, it is facing challenges in recruiting and retaining quality enlisted soldiers. If the Army fails
to address the enlisted retention issue in the near future, departures of experienced NCOs will
have a detrimental impact our military�s ability to provide for our nation�s security. Increasing
operational tempo and extended deployments are already hindering retention of quality mid-
grade NCOs. This study examines current retention issues and the Army Incentive Model. The
model appears to offer a range of benefits that may retain a segment of what demographers
have labeled as the �Millennium Generation.� This cohort of young people is looking for benefits
tailored to meet their wants and needs almost immediately�or�they will leave. Given the
Army�s need for retention, this study advocates that in addition to the retention benefits found in
the Army�s Incentive Model, personnel planners should also create a Career Professional NCO
corps oriented toward retaining the best and brightest of this cohort--something the Army
desperately needs if it is to meets its increased OPTEMPO and help win the war against global
terrorism.

quote:

The current Army Retention Program purportably provides a way to retain quality NCOs.
The objectives of the retention program focus on sustaining a trained and ready Army by:
� Reenlisting highly qualified soldiers, consistent with Army needs.
� Enlisting or transferring qualified transitioning soldiers into a Reserve unit based on
the soldier�s qualification and unit vacancies.
� Achieving and maintaining Army force alignment by reenlisting qualified soldiers in
critical/required skills.
� Obtaining maximum command involvement at every echelon of command. 6
�The Retention Program is dependent on many factors, both internal and external to the
Army. Among the external factors that we cannot influence are the economy, civilian job
market, and the world situation. The internal factors we can affect are benefit packages,
promotions, deployments and attractive incentive packages- including reenlistment bonuses�.7
Consider the Army retention rates for the last five years. The retention statistics for FY 2000
3
through FY2004 affirm that the Army is not currently having a problem with retaining soldiers
(See Table 1 and 2). However, for the first quarter of fiscal year 2005, data indicates that the
Army missed its initial reenlistment goal for active duty enlisted personal by six percent and its
mid-career reenlistment goal by four percent.8 Stop-loss orders that prevent some military
personnel from leaving the service at the scheduled end of their tours, together with a surge of
patriotism after 9/11, together with limited awareness to date of just how long the Iraq mission is
likely to last, have limited the fallout of over deployments.9 But there can be no assurance that
this state of affairs will continue. The current shortfalls have been softened by the Army�s on-
going Stop Loss program, are making the retention rates of soldiers look a lot better than they
really are.

quote:

The retention rates show the Army�s aggregate retention rate for initial, mid-career, and
career soldiers, but they do not show retention rates by military occupation . Indeed,
occupational breakouts of retention data were not available for this analysis. None the less
Army FY 2005 retention data show that while 63% of the Army�s active component occupations
are over strength, 32% are under strength.12 The hard truth is that the Army is having difficulties
in retaining Infantry, Explosive Ordnance Disposal, Field Artillery, and Human Intelligence
collectors. The December 2005 Army fill rate for these critically short specialties was 88% for
Infantry, 82% for EOD, 77% for Field Artillery, and only 65% for Human Intelligence collectors. 13
In all likelihood, the Army will continue to lose the soldiers and mid-grade NCOs the Army most
needs in the near future. The Army attributes retention problems to the fifteen reasons listed
below in Table 3. The four most common reasons the Army has problems retaining quality
soldiers are quality of life, amount of Pay (Basic pay), overall quality of life, and amount of job
satisfaction.

Everything old is new again but add in the brainrot of liberalism and the End of History .

# ? Apr 26, 2024 18:13

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

�flame of the west�

dear god

# ? Apr 26, 2024 18:13

Jon Pod Van Damm: Apr 6, 2009; THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC

quote:

A delegation of the DPRK Ministry of External Economic Relations led by Minister Yun Jong Ho left Pyongyang by air on April 23 to visit Iran.

They were seen off by Ryu Un Hae, vice-minister of External Economic Relations, at Pyongyang International Airport.

quote:

The DPRK health delegation led by Jong Mu Rim, minister of Public Health, returned home by air on April 23 after visiting Russia.

They were greeted by officials of the Ministry of Public Health and members of the Russian embassy in Pyongyang at Pyongyang International Airport.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 18:15

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

https://aje.io/84b476?update=2862281

quote:

Iran should question effectiveness of weapons after Israel attack: Pentagon chief

US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin made the comment days after Iran launched a barrage of drones and missiles at Israel in retaliation for an attack on an Iranian consulate in Damascus, Syria.

Israel responded shortly after with a limited strike on Iran, as Western leaders warned Israeli officials of wider escalation. The US was among several countries that aided Israel in intercepting the Iranian launches.

“They should be questioning the effectiveness of their weapons systems and their planning,” Austin told reporters.

“Hopefully they don’t walk away from this over-confident that they can do this at will, because I think Israel has demonstrated that it has a significant ability to defend itself,” Austin added.

Anyone got the clip of this yet? Because lmao

# ? Apr 26, 2024 20:19

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

TeenageArchipelago posted:

https://aje.io/84b476?update=2862281

Anyone got the clip of this yet? Because lmao

Questioning the alive-ness of Lloyd Austin daily

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dads friend steve: Dec 24, 2004

It would be pretty wild to see a US SecDef hold a press conference to say �That looked awful for Israel. Just terrible. Lucky for them Iran was pulling its punches�

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