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Blaisedell
May 7, 2008

The other day I went to 'Horsepower: The Museum of the King's Royal Hussars' in Winchester, England. I thought it might be worth posting about it in this thread, as the history of the regiments which are now the King's Royal Hussars basically charts the decline of the British Empire. Britain, as we all know, is now the US' hapless vassal, which soon won't be able to produce steel, let alone fight any wars independently.

There were some nice paintings there, which was my favourite bit. Some of the images below are photos I took, but when there was a better image aviailable on the internet, I used that.

I thought the way museum presented various events, particularly post-1945, was also pretty funny/absurd.

Here's the blurb from one of the signs outside the museum:

HORSEPOWER: THE MUSEUM OF THE KING'S ROYAL HUSSARS posted:

The King's Royal Hussars proudly traces its history back for over three hundred years. The museum tells the story of seven famous regiments, and how the Cavalry of horse and sabre developed into the modern Armoured Regiment of today, at the forefront of the British Army. In Hampshire's only Cavalry Museum, discover stories of courage and valour and follow the experiences of those who fought in the Peninsular War, Waterloo, the Charge of the Light Brigade, through the two World Wars, and on operations around the globe to the present day.

Another sign tells the history of the Upper Barracks site, which the museum is located on. There are three other military museums on the Upper Barracks site: The Adjutant General's Corps Museum, The Gurkha Museum, and the Royal Green Jackets (Rifles) Museum.

quote:

On this historic site, William the Conqueror built a royal castle (1067), which was extended by King Henry III (1216-72). The castle was besieged by Oliver Cromwell during the English Civil War (1645) and, after its occupants had surrendered, was partially demolished in 1651.

In 1683 King Charles Il chose the site for a palace overlooking Winchester Cathedral. but, following his death in 1685, it was never completed.

In the 18th century the palace, known as The King's House and in an increasingly neglected state, was used to accommodate French, Spanish and Dutch prisoners captured during the Seven Years' War (1756-63) and the American War of Independence (1775-83).

In 1796 the site was leased from the Crown for use as a military barracks which it remained for almost 200 years. During the Second World War the barracks housed American troops preparing to take part in the 1944 D Day landings in Normandy.

In 1994 the Ministry of Defence relinquished its occupation of most of the site, subsequently developed for housing, with three buildings retained for use by Winchester's Military Museums.

Much of the site is now, of course, housing.

On to the actual Horsepower museum:



Most of the museum is about the history of the 10th and 11th Hussars Regiments, who were in involved in many of the Empire's most glorious victories/heinous crimes, as shown on the Regimental gong for the 11th Hussars:



I do like their guidons though:



The 10th/11th Hussars started off as Dragoons. 'The Scouts' by William Barnes Wollen 'shows a patrol of 10th Light Dragoons somewhere in Spain or Portugal during the Peninsular War. Woollen completed this work in 1902, nearly 100 years after the war. He made a mistake: the "busby bag" should hang over the right side of the busby (fur hat).' Stupid William, getting the bag on the wrong side of the silly hat.

'The Scouts' by William Barnes Wolle posted:


They fought in Waterloo. Here are some cool swords and other artefacts from around then:



For those who are interested, the top sword is a light cavalry officer's sword, 1796 pattern, the centre one is a 1781 pattern sword and scabbard, and the bottom one is a sword used at Waterloo.

Later they took part in the Empire's crimes in India:

'The Girls We Left Behind' by Thomas Jones Barker posted:


"The British Empire posted:


... Drill Order, showing the wonderful spectacle of the 10th Hussars galloping in long ranks over the plain (Maidan) in India. This must be in the winter months as they are wearing their blue stable dress as opposed to the white summer uniform. The shakos still have the white quilted cover. The officers are out front, wearing dress pouchbelts. The men wear white leather pouchbelts and all of them have a black leather sabretache slung from their waistbelt. The front rank hold their swords at the ready while the rear rank rest the blade on the right shoulder. The regimental field days were commanded by the CO in the vicinity of Kirkee but later there were divisional field days in Poona.

Both the 10th and 11th Hussars fought in the Crimean War, with the 11th participating in the Charge of the Light Brigade at the Battle of Balaclava.



Balaclava by Lady Butler shows the remnants of the Light Brigade after the charge:

Balaclava by Lady Butler posted:


The museum has a large memorial stone to 'Crimean Bob':



25 years of service and he was never off sick? Can you imagine a zoomer horse doing that? Kids just don't want to work these days.

Here's how the museum explains the 10th Hussars fighting in Sudan:

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Egypt asked Britain for help to defeat a rebellion by Sudanese nationalists. The 10th Hussars, who were sailing home after 11 years in India, were ordered off their troopship in the Red Sea to join a British Expeditionary Force.

After the Suez Canal opened in 1869, sea journeys to India were several weeks shorter. The British government was a major shareholder in the Canal. Trouble in Egyptian-ruled Sudan threatened the route to India and Britain's other possessions in the Far East.

The Sudanese rebels had defeated two Egyptian forces led by British officers. One of them was a former
Commanding Officer of the 10th Hussars, General Valentine Baker.

As they had handed over their horses to another regiment in India, the 10th Hussars borrowed some Egyptian army horses.These were small, difficult to control and poorly equipped, but they were tough and could go for 24 hours without water.

The Expeditionary Force met the rebels and beat them at the Battle of El Teb on 29 February. By April the 10th Hussars were back in England. In October 45 soldiers volunteered to return to Egypt for 8 months. They served in the Light Camel Corps of the Nile Expedition sent to relieve General Gordon in Karthoum.

Charge of the 10th at El Teb by GD Giles posted:


The 10th and 11th Hussars fought in the Boer War as well:

'10th Hussars racing the Boers for a Kopje above the Modder River' by G.D. Giles posted:


There wasn't that much of interest in the museum about WWI and WWII, but they were very sad about losing their horses/mechanisation, which I can understand, as Daimler Dingo just isn't the same.

They also lost a tank to treacle:

Post-war the 10th/11th were sent off to try and prop up Britain's failing empire and fight against people struggling for their liberation.

quote:

Malaya 1953 - 56
The 11th Hussars went to the British colony of Malaya for three years on an "accompanied" tour (with wives and children). Much of their time was spent fighting Chinese communist inspired terrorists.

They carried out patrols and road checks, provided convoy escorts and dealt with ambushes.
In 1957 the country gained its independence within the Commonwealth as Malaysia.

Jordan 1955 - 57
The 10th Hussars spent nearly two years in Aqaba, on the Red Sea, helping to defend Jordan. When Egypt nationalised and closed the Suez Canal in 1956 they were cut off from Britain. Supplies took the long route round the Cape or came by air through Iraq.

South Arabia 1964 - 65
Several rival terrorist organisations fought each other and the British for independence and control of Aden, an important port near the entrance to the Red Sea.
The 10th Hussars spent a year operating on the borders with Yemen and also in Oman. Aden became part of Yemen 1967 which is still split by an intermittent civil war.

Here's some British anti-communist propaganda:



The 10th and 11th Hussars also apparently protected us from the 'threat of Soviet communism'. Lol at the "Did you know?' at the bottom.



The 10th and 11th were amalgamated to form the Royal Hussars in 1969.



Hmm, I wonder why Britain's colonies became independent countries?

The Royal Hussars later adopted Challenger tanks:


TOP SECRET INVINCIBLE CHOBHAM ARMOUR DO NOT STEAL POST ON WAR THUNDER FORUMS

Okay, here's the next stage of decline. 'In December 1992, after a short but full life lasting 23 years, The Royal Hussars amalgamated with the 14th/20th King's Hussars.' A short but full life? What does that mean?



'The world felt safer' lol. At least food for soldiers is apparently 'plentiful' now.

That's about where the museum ends. I understand that the museum was refurbished in 2006, so it probably hasn't been updated since then. Not that there's much to update on. So what's next for the King's Royal Hussars and British decline? How much further do we have to fall?

Well, as it turns out, quite far, as the Hussars will be losing their Challenger 2 tanks and gaining Ajax vehicles, in 2025 apparently. Yes, the ones that cause 'excessive levels of noise and vibration' for their occupants... :britain:

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Blaisedell
May 7, 2008

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

On the one hand, very cool.

On the other, rubbing salt on the wound, since Firepower, the museum of the Royal Artillery is still closed and without a new home for the collection in sight.

loving Hussars.

e: but fr, as someone who has at various times worn both a busby (our pattern is the same as the Hussars) and the 1821 Light Cavalry sabre, I can tell you're a man after my own heart. Excellent post.

ee: Which regiment of British Hussars was it that ran over a German family's car during exercises? (I believe the Americans also did this twice in the 80's)

That's a shame-- I should've gone there before they closed it. I can see the same thing happening to the King's Royal Hussars museum tbh. I was in the museum for about 2 hours and I was literally the only person there, although it was a weekday. The museum looked like it was probably unchanged since about 2006. Not quite 'a museum which belongs in a museum' like Dylan Thomas said of Swansea Museum, but getting there. I think sooner or later the MoD will close the museums on this site and redevelop the site for flats, which is basically what's happened with the Royal Arsenal site. The neoliberal logic of selling assets like these and downsizing (or 'rightsizing' as liberals like to call it) will be unescapable to them. It may even pay for a few Ajax.

Thanks! They had a 1908 Pattern Cavalry Sword as well, and I remembered the discussion in this thread (I think) about it being the most effective cavalry sword ever made.

Blaisedell
May 7, 2008

The Easy Rider posted:

That said, the film sounds like wishful thinking from a liberal filmmaker who thinks that a civil war would happen before the whole machine falls apart. The fantasy is that America will keep being America until the end, the only imaginable threat facing the empire being our turning of our own weapons on ourselves. That the battle lines resemble a electoral map is telling; even at the end of the world, any major upheaval or redrawing of the boundaries of the situation is unimaginable. Everything will continue on as it always has, until a final dramatic act of choosing suicide that apparently came as a spontaneous surprise to its characters.

Yeah— it is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.

Blaisedell
May 7, 2008

Is Masters of the Air good?

Blaisedell
May 7, 2008

That's all I needed to know. I will use my time more productively by playing Death Stranding instead. Thank you.

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