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That prose is obnoxious. Ban genre fiction.
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Shut up about things that aren't books, not-book-talker.
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Mar 16, 2019 02:43
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Personally I think goldmine the old thread and treat this as a clean break.
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Mar 16, 2019 02:52
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Good genre fiction is an oxymoron. The term in itself means it's not good enough to be real fiction.
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Mar 16, 2019 22:53
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The word "genre" only has so much meaning. It's either a critical term or a marketing one. It doesn't really have much use as a marker of merit or quality because for any genre you can almost always find a work of fiction that has literary merit and fits the markers of the genre (e.g., fantasy : Tolkien (or The Tempest), mystery : Maltese Falcon, etc.) Then explain the term literary fiction and how it is always contrasted with genre
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Mar 16, 2019 23:50
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You can’t blame literally everything on “capitalism exists”.
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Mar 18, 2019 18:26
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The thread can be fun. It just needs content in it, instead of complaining.
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Apr 6, 2019 19:17
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my bony fealty posted:Maybe he felt that fantasy was the ideal medium for expressing queer black male sexuality?
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Sep 11, 2019 03:59
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Sampatrick posted:all genre fiction is always bad It is, though. And putting poo poo like superpowers or dragons or whatever into a story always ruins it. Real art doesn't have those things. TheGreatEvilKing posted:Do you have a competing analysis, or do I need to write an effortpost on genetic determinism in Jemisin's work? This sounds interesting, go ahead and 
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Oct 7, 2019 21:15
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Also the only characters that show any decency/are capable of being anything but villains are the ones rich enough to buy superpowers from the evil conspiracy that controls literally everything in the world (despite only being like six people)
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Nov 22, 2019 23:04
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Clearly, I flushed a lot of this crap. I just remember ed there were Nazis and also ssf one people called the Slaughterhouse Nine who were boring AF. A thing about Worm is that it's such a dense, convoluted thing that it's impossible to keep all the details fresh in mind, which is why its fans make it out to be such a subtle, intricate story. It's not, of course - it's just longer than War and Peace and there's so much filler and nonsense and bizarre things that it's inevitable you lose track of stuff. Especially since, once you hit Arc 30 (yes, really) you've read over one million words and none of the stuff introduced in Arc 1 matters anymore and it's easy to forget how a black bookstore owner actively conspired (and admitted to conspiring!) to let the main character be beaten up by one of her bullies, incidentally the only black superhero in the story, or that said bully is described like this: quote:She looked like a panther, black-skinned, savage, teeth bared just a little as she panted.
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Nov 23, 2019 00:09
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LeGuinn was still a genre author, and thus bad by definition
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Nov 24, 2019 02:15
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You're also either wilfully obtuse or just outright stupid if you think what's being objected to is the mere presence of Nazis, gang members, etc. in the story.
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Nov 25, 2019 00:05
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So what good authors aren't fascists, if I want to read more Actual Literature but don't want to give human garbage my time of day? Because it sure seems sometimes like the only people who can create good art are monsters of some stripe or another.
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Mar 26, 2020 23:33
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Maxim Gorky owns, so does Daniil Harms. Don’t forget that Umberto Eco, Sartre, Camus were all leftists. Really, a ton of good writing on the left. Maybe tell us what you’re looking for and we can be more precise - do you want short/long works, straightforward narratives or meandering ones... While I'm more accustomed to novels, (clarificatory edit: longish, straightforward narratives) I'm willing to try 'em all. And I do have a Calvino novel on my desk a friend gave me for Christmas, so that's nice as a starting point. Thanks for the recommendations, folks. Flesnolk fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Mar 29, 2020 |
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