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VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



Synthbuttrange posted:

Dropsy folks right?

Yes indeedy.

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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Oh man new years eve 1999.

Mindcrash is unavoidable right?

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

who do I pay to get the squisherz theme song out of my head?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-6YBNrMa6U

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

scattered thoughts about the ending now that ive had time to digest it

wish there'd been some kinda resolution for Tim - he's one of the most fleshed out characters in the game, but once you get to the present you don't even get like, a single email from him. The Archival team in general was a cool concept that didn't really have much done with it imo? when they were introduced i was looking forward to there being like, active intra-team communication, but that never really happened.

was anyone else super, super skeptical of Dylan's confession, especially since he did it through his freaking murderous bad car game? i spent a lot of the finale being super tense and waiting for the other shoe to drop, and tbh im glad that didn't happen, but i feel like that messed with the emotional impact. the files you got afterwards were perfect and tragic tho

the revelation that m1nx apparently fabricated counselor ronnie was fukken hilarious even if his page never really had much

Bettik
Jan 28, 2008

Space-age Rock Star

dmboogie posted:

sounds like you need a professor's help here

Perfect, thanks!

Related: I'd been avoiding installing that as it's clearly malware!

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

*banhammers every Gumshoe Gooper image*

Just finished it. Loved it. BUT really wish there were more of a denoutment. Like you have the post y2k cutscene. Maybe you could have one last retrospective 20xx page.

Beekeeping and You
Sep 27, 2011



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bE-Q7C6iXc Pro-click for someone making granny cream's hot butter icecream

Arrrthritis
May 31, 2007

I don't care if you're a star, the moon, or the whole damn sky, you need to come back down to earth and remember where you came from

Synthbuttrange posted:

*banhammers every Gumshoe Gooper image*

Just finished it. Loved it. BUT really wish there were more of a denoutment. Like you have the post y2k cutscene. Maybe you could have one last retrospective 20xx page.

With how much I got attached to the different characters and websites, I kind of wish there was a page or board just full of character resolutions, so you can read up on all the different people and what they ended up doing with their lives. What happened to Ruth? Did Sarah ever divorce Gill like he rightfull deserves (or did Gill end up becoming less of a total doofus)? Re3koning? Did Corey ever stop being a sentient fedora?

I think it's a very small grievance on top of a very, very good game though. I can't recommend it enough to everyone I know.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
What happeend to submarine guy? I didn't know there was a time change coming up and had planned to donate but then he said he didn't get enough funds :smith:

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Xaris posted:

What happeend to submarine guy? I didn't know there was a time change coming up and had planned to donate but then he said he didn't get enough funds :smith:

You can donate the money and he goes off on his trip, finds treasure, and is never seen again. There's also a task to find out about him later in the game, but its bugged and doesn't record as completed when go to the right site.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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This is mostly stuff from the Steam forums, keywords that lead to hidden or obscure pages.


Goblik
secret
secrets
discord
hypnospace
socialism
worms (only in first chapter)
fake
bees
SandyCard
HS_Citizen_006A325B
HS_Citizen_004A353B
JayTholen
StanK55
what
Sacred Games
sexist
cars
f04886a
badguy
just_c00l (in december)

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



I love that so many of the personalities have their own narrative that is less consequential to the plot, like the pious kid whose parents made her leave hypnospace because they think her dumb squishers hobby is linked to Satanism, and almost everyone in the free lands especially that guy with the "interactive" fiction. Also things like Corey writing a huge apology on his main page but still maintaining his hidden Zane sucks page

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

If anyone's really stuck try searching hypnospace for a hint

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I love that so many of the personalities have their own narrative that is less consequential to the plot, like the pious kid whose parents made her leave hypnospace because they think her dumb squishers hobby is linked to Satanism, and almost everyone in the free lands especially that guy with the "interactive" fiction. Also things like Corey writing a huge apology on his main page but still maintaining his hidden Zane sucks page

My favorite part is that based on the dev's twitter, the ending music is actually from that kid's perspective:

https://twitter.com/jaytholen/status/1106191663830052864

Underwhelmed
Mar 7, 2004


Nap Ghost
I am on the 4th case

I have three of the offensive images tracked down. Chowder man's page, the design warlock guy, and the biker, but I cannot find the shaman guy. There is mention of a gus parker on Sherriheals and it fits with the story on the Shaman card, but I cannot find any pages associated with Parker. What am I missing here? I will just take an answer at this point

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

For some reason you cant just search gus. Have a look at open eyed tho.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
This game is good but having just got to the archival bit, it's kinda made me depressed and :smith:, and not even because of the plot part, butbecause it kinda evokes those feels what it's like going back to old geocities or angelfire sites now and pulling up old 90s irc chatlots. just long dead empty relics, and recognizing there's no real value and time marches on, but... well..

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Stewing on things after the end.


1. I wasnt sure about what kind of role Dylan was going to play in the final segment. I mean the easiest assumption is as an antagonist and that he'd be actively sabotaging my efforts once he remembered who I was.

I'm not sure if it'd make the game better or worse if that was the case.

2. It seems like a lot of people would have had indications that things were going down at Merchantsoft and it's odd that M1nx, the medical examiners, you and Samantha just sat on all their suspicions for 20 years?

Synthbuttrange fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Mar 22, 2019

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

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Mods, please change my name to Badcitizen McGee.

Not my handle, my real name.

friendly 2 da void
Mar 23, 2018

Would anybody mind giving me a hint for the endgame? Totally stuck in the HAP with no idea what to do next.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Synthbuttrange posted:

Stewing on things after the end.

2. It seems like a lot of people would have had indications that things were going down at Merchantsoft and it's odd that M1nx, the medical examiners, you and Samantha just sat on all their suspicions for 20 years?


actually yeah in retrospect that is weird

merchantsoft might have infinite money and an army of lawyers but you'd still think M1nx (especially R3ckoning) would've tried to do something instead of let poor Tim rot in jail for 6 years

friendly 2 da void posted:

Would anybody mind giving me a hint for the endgame? Totally stuck in the HAP with no idea what to do next.

You should remember a very suspicious page popping up in December, in a zone no one should be able to randomly post in, that was hammered to hell and back with violations.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



KataraniSword posted:

My favorite part is that based on the dev's twitter, the ending music is actually from that kid's perspective:

https://twitter.com/jaytholen/status/1106191663830052864

I love that song and this makes it even better

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

dmboogie posted:

actually yeah in retrospect that is weird

merchantsoft might have infinite money and an army of lawyers but you'd still think M1nx (especially R3ckoning) would've tried to do something instead of let poor Tim rot in jail for 6 years

Figuring how to fit that in narratively and structurally into the game might be a problem. Maybe an oblique reference to fringe groups insisting Mindcrash was an inside job! and other conspiracy theories.

friendly 2 da void
Mar 23, 2018

dmboogie posted:

You should remember a very suspicious page popping up in December, in a zone no one should be able to randomly post in, that was hammered to hell and back with violations.

Thanks! I think something is either bugging out or I'm being very dense. Do I have to complete the HAP "Lost and Found" quests before the next story event will trigger?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

friendly 2 da void posted:

Thanks! I think something is either bugging out or I'm being very dense. Do I have to complete the HAP "Lost and Found" quests before the next story event will trigger?

Everything is available.

Search for a hint if you need the right steps.

Otherwise have a look at Hypnospace's main corporate page. There's a page that is definitely not supposed to be there

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

friendly 2 da void posted:

Thanks! I think something is either bugging out or I'm being very dense. Do I have to complete the HAP "Lost and Found" quests before the next story event will trigger?

Oh, whoops. You don’t need to do all of them but I had two completed when the story triggered; don’t know if that’s a requirement or not.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
Okay, I just beat the game and it was excellent. I admit I got stuck towards the end and the eye thing was kinda annoying to use, so I had to look a few things up

Ending, I don't think I quite got it. It wasn't clear that Dylan intended to cause the crash. It looks like he really was just gambling on his Outlaw 2000 game to really make it big, sort of a break or make thing because Merchantsoft was in big trouble financially and they needed this--and it just wasn't ready and crashed and killed people? And when it got pinned on Tim he just stayed quiet and now regrets that? I had a few other theories going in that maybe he meant to do some kind of wipe because there were some secrets he didn't want getting out, or because Merchantsoft was in trouble financially & with the health thing and this was some sort of bankrupcy plan or something that overdid it. Also the ending was just 6 files on the people that died and a credit scene right? There isn't anything more?

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

That's the "ending", though naturally the game goes as long as you want to keep going, and with a game like this the exploration is as important as the actual plot.

I'm firmly of the belief that Dylan didn't intend to cause the crash but did so out of severe recklessness and disregard for safety instead of chance and happenstance - it might still be considered manslaughter like it was with Tim, but there's arguably a case for second degree murder, even ignoring the lying by omission in their involvement. Literally, Hypnospace was the livelihood of him and his brother, and the writing was on the wall that it was going down the tubes sooner as opposed to later (the same way the Web 1.0 bubble burst in real life, honestly), so he felt the incredible push to release a Killer App.

Unfortunately, it was literally a killer app and somehow nobody thought to tie a lovely game being pushed to literally bricking people's brains, or it was kept in the realm of Conspiracy Theories until evidence was unearthed. But then the guilt of knowing full well that he was responsible was eating at Dylan for twenty years straight.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Also he's a lovely enough programmer that he already has form in this, hence the first timeskip when he bricked everyone's enforcer set at the end of the first section.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
Okay yeah that makes sense, about what I was ultimately thought happened. Definitely would have been nice for a few more resolutions, but it ended well enough.

And yeah just checking to make sure I didn't miss anything. I agree the exploration is the best, but I think I explored pretty much everything though i'm at like 80% because after getting stuck towards the end I went through everything and more several times over with a fine-tooth comb, so I don't really feel compelled to grab the last 20%. But that's okay.

There really is something eerily depressing about going through a relic of a dead world on like an existential level, like that these works were slices of people's lives whom may or may not be dead and it's you keeping that alive. In this it's just a game of course but having grown up in the era and even partaking in my own lovely angelfire site (which of course I can't even remember) and reminiscing and even going back to archives of geocities and stuff and wondering what happened, it hits a little closer to home.

I think it feels a bit more like 1997 than 1999 but I get the explanation that its just some poo poo hacked together by Dylan with cheap tools and stuff, which is way behind competitors supposedly with good graphics and ui; and the devs really wanted to capture a slice of the y2k era which worked well. Devs really did a great job in capturing the spirit of the mid-90s, that sort of hopeful communal optimism in that we are all here together in this little bubble of the future and getting hyped and hoped into thi somfg isn't it cool we can communicate across the world, in our sleep, in milliseconds!

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



It reminded me a lot of compuserve in the 90s. There would be random kids who will chat you up just randomly and explaining to you excitedly about emoticons

The cool punk feuds also reminded me of when someone in a chat room decide they have a cult of personality and does a dramatic farewell, and a disgruntled member will call out on their poo poo, all in these reply all emails in html with pictures carefully embedded which break if your resolution is different

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Oh hey it looks like all the game's content is stored in open unobscured files in the file directory, images, sounds movies, pages. Explore it when you've finished the game to dig up stuff!

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
Which really is just like the old days.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Yeah, I was poking around in the files and found that there are multiple videos about how many people died during the mindcrash, from as little as 3 to as many as 6. So I guess the more people you can get banned from Hypnospace for infractions, they won't be on the system during the crash to get killed.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Yeah, I was poking around in the files and found that there are multiple videos about how many people died during the mindcrash, from as little as 3 to as many as 6. So I guess the more people you can get banned from Hypnospace for infractions, they won't be on the system during the crash to get killed.

...huh.

I've seen that you can get Zane banned, but who the heck else can you inadvertently save? I can't imagine you can ban Tiff, considering how much of Tim''s tragedy is tied into his relationship with her, and the old woman in the nursing home doesn't really have a presence at all. Roddy's literally an employee so no way he's getting banned. Can you ban the motorcycle skeleton guy for Gooper crimes maybe?

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

dmboogie posted:

...huh.

I've seen that you can get Zane banned, but who the heck else can you inadvertently save? I can't imagine you can ban Tiff, considering how much of Tim''s tragedy is tied into his relationship with her, and the old woman in the nursing home doesn't really have a presence at all. Roddy's literally an employee so no way he's getting banned. Can you ban the motorcycle skeleton guy for Gooper crimes maybe?

You can. I don't know if it's just him or anybody in the Gooper Situation, but I know that if you smack him in the middle of the #StandWithGooper movement, he gets banned "to show that [the staff] isn't bluffing". You can also ban Sherri for repeated infractions, but that doesn't affect the news report.

As it stands, there is no way to save 3 people, so you only get the 4, 5, or 6 movie.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Yup that lines up with the final report text files showing only 4,5,6. Video must have been recorded way beforehand.

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
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Holy loving poo poo that first case.

Find some Gooper pics and delete them, fine. But there's a first grade teacher sharing some artwork her kids made. When I gaveled the first one, I had the horrible realization that there's enough there to flag her and potentially ban her from Hypnospace. And there's nothing prevent me from doing that and making a tidy profit except my own morality. That's deep

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KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Yeah. Hypnospace Outlaw never judges your morality, but it sure puts you in situations to make you question it yourself quite a bit, if you look and engage with it. That's one of the things that fascinates me about the game.

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