CanPol 2019 - you won't drink whiskey, and talk politics and vote like us

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DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

Lol why would employees leave good employers

"Good" in this case means from a shareholder perspective.

# ? Aug 21, 2019 22:28

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# ? May 3, 2024 03:35

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

https://twitter.com/TGranicAllen/status/1164161431568359429

# ? Aug 22, 2019 00:01

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Et tu, Tayna?

# ? Aug 22, 2019 00:16

incontinence 100: Dec 21, 2018; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Like all of you, I will turn down any business class upgrades as a show of solidarity with my economy class brothers and sisters.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 02:14

Ron Paul Atreides: Apr 19, 2012; Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

gently caress just watched the opposition's statements about not having the testimony in parliament. gently caress these people, the SNC poo poo is petty bullshit, it's like barely a story, and not one of these motherfuckers has said poo poo about our continued support and continuing business with loving Bolsanaro or Modi or MBS. We are watching genocides happen around the world and the most we can get upset about is a attempt at a backroom deal that I guarantee every single one of them would have tried to do too

# ? Aug 22, 2019 02:32

Hand Knit: Oct 24, 2005; Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Postess with the Mostest posted:

https://twitter.com/TGranicAllen/status/1164161431568359429

Math class stays spicy.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 08:32

Oxyclean: Sep 23, 2007

I like this quote I saw on reddit:

quote:

Welcome to Canadian politics, where the voters are afraid that the Liberals won't keep their election promises, and afraid that the Conservatives will.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 14:34

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Defund the CBC.

https://twitter.com/derrickokeefe/status/1164323575043465216

# ? Aug 22, 2019 15:15

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

These splits sure are something

https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/status/1164575450468933634?s=20

https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/status/1164577432525070336?s=20

https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/status/1164578344270278660?s=20

# ? Aug 22, 2019 17:43

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Manitoba: Winnipeg/Everywhere Else

# ? Aug 22, 2019 17:45

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Winnipeg has 55% of the population of the province within the perimeter highway and 60% if you count all the bedroom communities around it

# ? Aug 22, 2019 17:48

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

lmao men are the worst

# ? Aug 22, 2019 17:51

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

I�m dying. Interesting to note, according to that poll, that less than 50% of people would want a conservative government.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 18:00

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

vyelkin posted:

lmao men are the worst

# ? Aug 22, 2019 18:03

Raenir Salazar: Nov 5, 2010; College Slice

Whiskey_Dick posted:

That headline is slightly misleading. "No-show" implies (to me anyway) that that the Conservatives agreed to attend, and then didn't show up the day of. The article suggests that the Conservatives declined to attend well in advance, citing other commitments. It still doesn't look great, though - I agree with you on that.

I also agree that most of the voterbase won't care. However, I don't think it's for lack of empathy - rather a lack of trust in the unknown. The vast majority of Conservative voters I have met are kind and generous. However, they tend to be more invested in friends and family rather than groups of people they have never met. A debate about "poverty" won't interest most Conservatives - they don't know the "impoverished" and likely assume that it's just a group of people looking for a hand out. Conversely, if you told a group of Conservatives that three of their neighbours couldn't afford to eat dinner, you would likely have a captive audience.

Interestingly enough, I was having a debate with a coworker about the need for public housing and other social programs and he seemed uninterested, but came back to me later in the week to explain how he checked in on a friend who it turned out had been forced to become homeless and that made him reevaluate the arguments I gave him.

Gotta insidiously pry your way into their brains and plant the seeds of doubt.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 18:13

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

littleorv posted:

I�m dying. Interesting to note, according to that poll, that less than 50% of people would want a conservative government.

Strangely, that rarely prevents a Conservative government from being elected

# ? Aug 22, 2019 18:13

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

The greens are a joint venture between the liberals and conservatives to make sure the NDP are never elected anywhere, not that they deserve to be elected.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 18:34

Vintersorg: Mar 3, 2004; President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club

It's good that Winnipeg is more in favour of the NDP since we generally decide what's up.

But who the gently caress knows. Imagine if we had electoral reform so the NDP, LIB and Greens could be combined or something.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 18:44

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

I'm 99% sure the Manitoba Greens will take at least one seat this year

# ? Aug 22, 2019 18:47

Precambrian Video Games: Aug 19, 2002

Imagine if all the Boomer/Silent suburban/rural uneducated white men weren't complete assholes.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 18:51

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

Does anyone know what the polls for the Manitoba election looked like last time? I am extremely lazy and don�t want to expend the effort to look myself.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 18:58

Vintersorg: Mar 3, 2004; President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club

Every vote was basically made to get rid of Sellinger.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:00

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

This is taken from the Mainstreet Poll released on March 29th, 2016 which was 20 days before the last election, AKA where we are now

With Undecideds
All of Manitoba

Winnipeg

Rest of Manitoba

Decided and Leaning Voters only
Winnipeg

Rest of Manitoba

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:10

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

eXXon posted:

Imagine if all the Boomer/Silent suburban/rural uneducated white men weren't complete assholes.

I can much easier imagine electoral reform happening in Canada than this.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:11

TheKingofSprings: Oct 9, 2012

Vintersorg posted:

Every vote was basically made to get rid of Sellinger.

When half his own party mutinied and tried to vote him out it should�ve been a pretty loving obvious sign

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:11

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Going by that based on decided voters

Change from March 29th, 2016 to August 19th, 2019

Winnipeg
NDP(+13%)
PC(-5%)
LIB(-11%)
GRN(+2%)

Rest of Manitoba
NDP(-12%)
PC(0%)
LIB(+12%)
GRN(0%)

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:13

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

DariusLikewise posted:

Rest of Manitoba
NDP(-12%)
PC(0%)
LIB(+12%)
GRN(0%)

lmao

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:16

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

Interesting. Thanks.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:17

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

I sure love living in the rest of Manitoba.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:18

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

My friend's fairly normal brother moved to rest of Manitoba a few years ago. Coming back to Victoria for a family BBQ he was going on about how white's all need guns to defend them selves from the roving bands of violent thieving natives and how the media and government will always demonize any white person who defend them selves and their property.

Rest of Manitoba seems like a very bad place.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:21

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

vyelkin posted:

lmao

Can you guess the area of Winnipeg that primarily rich and white?

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:21

Birudojin: Oct 7, 2010; WHIRR CLANK

https://www.thestar.com/politics/fe...y-liberals.html

quote:

The Liberals are challenging Andrew Scheer to end his �boycott� of gay pride events after unearthing a 2005 speech the Conservative leader made suggesting same-sex marriage cannot be considered marriage at all.

Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale released a video of the speech Thursday that shows Scheer, then 25, explaining why he opposed the Civil Marriage Act, which legalized same-sex unions in Canada.

�How many legs would a dog have if you counted the tail as a leg? The answer is just four,� Scheer said, paraphrasing a quote attributed to Abraham Lincoln.

�Just because a tail is called a leg does not make it a leg. If Bill C-38 passes, governments and individual Canadians will be forced to call a tail a leg, nothing more, but that is not inconsequential, for its effect on marriage, such an integral building block of our society, would have far-reaching effects.�

In the speech, Scheer said the most important thing to society is raising children because society�s �very survival requires it.�

�Homosexual unions are by nature contradictory to this � Two members of the same sex may use their God-given free will to engage in acts, to cohabit and to own property together,� Scheer continued.

�In that sense, they have many of the collateral features of marriage, but they do not have its inherent feature, as they cannot commit to the natural procreation of children. They cannot therefore be married.�

To be fair, Canada has always forced married couples to have children, and then forcibly annulled relationships where the partners would not, could not, or simply no longer were having children.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 19:58

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

I would probably bet money on the fact that if Scheer comes out in support of Same-Sex marriage Social Conservatives would flock to the PPC in droves

# ? Aug 22, 2019 20:03

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; THE HATE CRIME APOLOGIST HAS LOGGED ON

DariusLikewise posted:

I would probably bet money on the fact that if Scheer comes out in support of Same-Sex marriage Social Conservatives would flock to the PPC in droves

And then Mad Max gets into the debates?

EDIT: On the subject of people with Max's views.

https://twitter.com/CityAdrian/status/1164608182058147841

bunnyofdoom fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Aug 22, 2019

# ? Aug 22, 2019 20:11

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

Birudojin posted:

https://www.thestar.com/politics/fe...y-liberals.html

To be fair, Canada has always forced married couples to have children, and then forcibly annulled relationships where the partners would not, could not, or simply no longer were having children.

This comes up now and then and I always post the same response which is that it's cool to know Andrew Scheer thinks my marriage to my wife is illegitimate because we chose not to have children.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 20:59

The Cheshire Cat: Jun 10, 2008; Fun Shoe

vyelkin posted:

This comes up now and then and I always post the same response which is that it's cool to know Andrew Scheer thinks my marriage to my wife is illegitimate because we chose not to have children.

It's a pretty common right wing "argument" and yeah it's extremely easy to pick apart but the frustrating thing is that doesn't matter because none of the arguments they make matter. The point itself is the argument that's persuasive to his base; the justification is just the necessary theatrics to allow them to deny that it's pure bigotry that drives their belief system.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 21:28

Rime: Nov 2, 2011; by Games Forum

Societies very survival probably relies on the deaths of a couple billion children, at this juncture, not making GBS threads out even more.

# ? Aug 22, 2019 22:31

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Too bad NDP isn't doing better or Libs could have discovered the stuff tommy douglas said when he was 25.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 00:40

TheKingofSprings: Oct 9, 2012

Rime posted:

Societies very survival probably relies on the deaths of a couple billion children, at this juncture, not making GBS threads out even more.

No, it depends on business and society in general not buff chugging carbon like it�s a 40 of vodka and shifts in patterns of consumption.

Falling that, I�d prefer to sooner off myself than have kids dying for something they couldn�t possibly be responsible for.

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TheKingofSprings: Oct 9, 2012

Postess with the Mostest posted:

Too bad NDP isn't doing better or Libs could have discovered the stuff tommy douglas said when he was 25.

Nobody who was going to vote for Scheer likely gave a single poo poo about his thoughts on gay people

# ? Aug 23, 2019 00:56

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