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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

That's literally just hbomberguy, lmao
https://youtu.be/3Oco4WYRdaU

Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Apr 30, 2019

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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Rarity posted:

*updates Top10UKMTPosters.xls* :sigh:

I'm flattered to be moved to the top spot :radcat:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Ms Adequate posted:

I'm flattered to be moved to the top spot :radcat:

The sighing smiley clearly indicated you were being scrubbed from the list :colbert:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


Love is a battlefield.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Rarity posted:

Just you wait till the bit in the movie where Sonic flosses

i mean he has to, otherwise his stolen human teeth might decay

Ms Adequate posted:

I'm flattered to be moved to the top spot :radcat:

mmm, not quite

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

CoolCab posted:

i mean he has to, otherwise his stolen human teeth might decay


mmm, not quite



Oh whoops, seems you've sorted the column Z-A

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Speaking of goon spreadsheets here's the european election sweepstakes sheet. Post your predictions in the thread and I'll put them in. It's still weeks away so edits are fine, and you might want to wait for the local elections to be out of the way first..

Your prediction gets a score based on sum of squares of differences (zero is bang on for every party)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/101ShRNc4MC1YtBI2XE0ru8rda4aTlNBaIytsutD-QIc/edit#gid=185877406

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Brexit Party cell background not poo poo brown.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Rarity posted:

The sighing smiley clearly indicated you were being scrubbed from the list :colbert:

I generously ignored that because I am fond of you and did not wish to credit your terrible mistake as real :colbert:


CoolCab posted:

i mean he has to, otherwise his stolen human teeth might decay


mmm, not quite



Eh, I'll take it.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I don't really understand whats going on here except that rachel riley has completely lost it

https://twitter.com/zelo_street/status/1123244389445378049

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Excited for the Sanic Movie, looks like Troma are back on form

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Reading a philosophy essay and I've come across what's either a citation or a sick burn on Big Yud. I'm going to read it as the latter lol.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That's a strong contender for best citation.

Doesn't quite beat citing the unabomber in a maths paper but still very good.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Guavanaut posted:

Reading a philosophy essay and I've come across what's either a citation or a sick burn on Big Yud. I'm going to read it as the latter lol.



it annoys me inordinately that Bostrom's essay has two Yudkowsky (2008) citations and never bothers to label them 2008a and 2008b

e: but I regret to say that it is indeed a citation, and indeed a citation in vein of picking a friendly author who isn't a field specialist over the literature. There is actual research on the extent to which higher ed or otherwise abstract education actually improves decisionmaking (conceptualized in various ways), but Bostrom does not cite any of them; instead he cites a fellow "rationalist"

ronya fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Apr 30, 2019

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Lol some of the more FBPE FB friends I have are absolutely freaking out over Labour NEC position on the euro elections.

To the extent that they're suggesting a lib dems comeback and mass support for CUKTIG. Both hard leave and hard Remainers are bonkers.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

CoolCab posted:

i mean he has to, otherwise his stolen human teeth might decay


mmm, not quite



I appreciate your moxie, kid *bumps you up to #4*

crayon85
Dec 25, 2013

Username/post combo

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ronya posted:

it annoys me inordinately that Bostrom's essay has two Yudkowsky (2008) citations and never bothers to label them 2008a and 2008b

e: but I regret to say that it is indeed a citation, and indeed a citation in vein of picking a friendly author who isn't a field specialist over the literature. There is actual research on the extent to which higher ed or otherwise abstract education actually improves decisionmaking (conceptualized in various ways), but Bostrom does not cite any of them; instead he cites a fellow "rationalist"
If he's citing Yudkowsky in earnest then surely that lends weight to his overall point that some information is hazardous to cognition?

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

I'm having crazy frog flashbacks, I though we'd moved on as a species and put senseless horror like this behind us :cry:

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Ratjaculation posted:

Nice one. Although its unlikely they'll successfully germinate if they're planted in April.

Sycamore are an introduced species, so they don't provide a great deal of ecosystem services and can dominate woodlands. Gather some acorns in the autumn. Native oaks support around 20-150 times the number of species that sycamore do (depending on the environment), really good for insects, bryophytes and lichens.

Get an old disposable barbecue (often found for free on beaches and in rivers), put some moist soil in there and plant them in early November. You can then transfer and plant the seedling in February. This'll stop squirrels immediately eating them.

However, plant them in an area with deer fencing or you'll have wasted your time anyway!

Oaks are in very short supply here although I'm aiming to change that once I get paid next week. They're top of my shopping list for saplings. Thankfully I don't need to worry about deer in my area and the main threat to anything I do will be property developers.

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




crayon85 posted:

Username/post combo

Different Bundy I'm afraid :D

a glitch
Jun 27, 2008

no wait stop

Soiled Meat

TACD posted:

I'm having crazy frog flashbacks, I though we'd moved on as a species and put senseless horror like this behind us :cry:

At least Crazy Frog didn't cost $90 million to make.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Captain Fargle posted:

Oaks are in very short supply here although I'm aiming to change that once I get paid next week. They're top of my shopping list for saplings. Thankfully I don't need to worry about deer in my area and the main threat to anything I do will be property developers.

Do your part for nature and cull the developers

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
not envious of all the young labour firebrands, forced to either try to pitch "well we either want a brexit solution that's very good, like being in a customs union with single market access that somehow doesn't also limit are country's options in a customs union way or prevent us from closing the borders to forrins like the single market's supposed to, and if we can't have that we want another general election so we can absolutely make our brexit happen and if we can't have that we might consider not being against another brexyref provided it's somebody else's fault" or "what the gently caress's our brexit position matter the EU parliament's not doing brexit anyway"

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/1123296907751841793

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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So like, what is actually going on with the internal Labour NEC thing, is it just Watson being Watson again and trying to force the party to move towards "Referendum" immediately prior to an election which is does matter in? What is the strategic purpose outside of trying to win interparty conflict?

Also, why are so many people so poo poo at interparty politiking?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Josef bugman posted:

trying to win interparty conflict?

It's this. Makes him look good to fubpees / the Labour right. I doubt he expected to win.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


With the new thread presumably coming in a few hours can we consider having a poll of whether we think Brexit will happen by 31 October? I think it could be interesting.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Only if it has a "gently caress knows" option cos it's the only one I can honestly pick.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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feedmegin posted:

It's this. Makes him look good to fubpees / the Labour right. I doubt he expected to win.

But surely he realises that he's going to look rubbish to 1) Everyone else and 2) Be far too associated with Corbyn to be a success with the Labour Right.

The best option surely would be to play a longer game and risk not sitting in the fancy chair but having more say over candidate vetting?

Like surely the most successful form of interparty win is one where no-one even knows you've won it and years later people write about it going "poo poo got real then"

Regarde Aduck posted:

Has Watson been buying lots of expensive things lately? His actions make me think of someone taking dodgy money to be a wrecker.

Surely he's not that stupid/greedy.

Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Apr 30, 2019

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Has Watson been buying lots of expensive things lately? His actions make me think of someone taking dodgy money to be a wrecker.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

He actually bought all the train simulator DLC on credit and has to take bribes to pay it off.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ronya posted:

it annoys me inordinately that Bostrom's essay has two Yudkowsky (2008) citations and never bothers to label them 2008a and 2008b
There's a 2008c and maybe d further on, when it goes full technofuturist god AIs. Shame, it was an interesting exploration of whether factually true information (to the best of our reason &c.) could be harmful at the start, as a modifier to Mill et al's views that truth is the best type of information and should always be protected and broadcast.

e: no, wait, they're all from the same Yud piece, they just don't look like they should be.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Apr 30, 2019

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


labour not commiting to a vote is real loving stupid tbf

its worked so far but i wonder how many times you can gently caress your own base

why shouldnt we have a confirmatory vote even if labour manages to get its amazing customs deal?

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Josef bugman posted:

So like, what is actually going on with the internal Labour NEC thing, is it just Watson being Watson again and trying to force the party to move towards "Referendum" immediately prior to an election which is does matter in? What is the strategic purpose outside of trying to win interparty conflict?

Also, why are so many people so poo poo at interparty politiking?

he never had a great chance of overturning the NEC given its factional makeup (it was a party faction-line vote on the TSSA amendment); the goal was to provoke infighting amongst the Corbyn camp. Even a successful whip comes at a price of resentment

ronya fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Apr 30, 2019

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Regarde Aduck posted:

Has Watson been buying lots of expensive things lately? His actions make me think of someone taking dodgy money to be a wrecker.

there was that time he was spotted having dinner with one of tig's backers

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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ronya posted:

he never had a great chance of overturning the NEC given its factional makeup; the goal was to provoke infighting amongst the Corbyn camp. Even a successful whip comes at a price of resentment

In which case that seems stupid. It makes it less likely for there to be a Labour government next time and, for all the talk of conservative infighting and so on, I think some sections of the Labour Right are really unaware of how badly they could gently caress themselves with stuff like this.

Hentai Jihadist posted:

labour not commiting to a vote is real loving stupid tbf

its worked so far but i wonder how many times you can gently caress your own base

why shouldnt we have a confirmatory vote even if labour manages to get its amazing customs deal?

I kind of agree and do wish we could have a confirmatory referendum after negotiations, but the issue is one of timing. That and, as Ronya points out, it is designed to be for internal consumption too, the idea that a large section of Labour should just acquiesce to people demanding more of a say because 1) They don't want to be ignored by Guardian columnists and 2) Because they want to defenestrate the current system.

This poo poo was an internal fight that was trying to force pressure through public prodding, but in trying to do so the people backing it have made their own prefered outcome less likely.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
a key point from the graun:

quote:

However, some senior party figures drew comfort from the fact that the NEC is not meant to be a policymaking body; and the process for agreeing a general election manifesto would be different, involving shadow ministers in setting policy for their respective brief.

One NEC member said, “politically, it was necessary for some people to turn this into a fight about a second referendum but in reality this meeting was not going to change party policy.

“If we have a general election manifesto meeting when we need to decide a policy on a second referendum, it will be very different, but most people are happy to have this compromise right now.”

the thing is, even if one is secretly hoping for the MP for Holborn and St Pancras to sally in and save the day, the strategy of forcing these battles appears to be working. Consider Owen Smith, who lost, and then lost his shadow cabinet seat too; nonetheless within months he still managed to box the leadership into the Conference compromise despite the best efforts of Momentum

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

So from the looks of things, your government is going to do loving zilch about Brexit until October where the whole madness starts all over again. Am I correct in this assessment?

OwlFancier posted:

What the gently caress

How is that a thing that exists?

Hollywood greed and incompetence knows no bounds.

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ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Josef bugman posted:

In which case that seems stupid. It makes it less likely for there to be a Labour government next time and, for all the talk of conservative infighting and so on, I think some sections of the Labour Right are really unaware of how badly they could gently caress themselves with stuff like this.

the faction out of power never believes in the sanctity of party unity, this has always been true

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