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Gnome de plume posted:This should go without saying: all wizards are assholes. Merlin? Huge rear end in a top hat.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Merlin? Huge rear end in a top hat. 
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Apr 9, 2019 13:38
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QuoProQuid posted:My first reaction upon leaving the theatre is that Shazam is possibly the dumbest, most actively unhelpful “mentor” I’ve ever seen in a superhero movie. Jesus Christ. There is a real good comic of superman finding out shazam's identity for the first time and just flipping out and flying immediately to shazam to call him a monster 
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Apr 9, 2019 15:11
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This movies looks awful. We haven’t had a good comic book movie since BvS.
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Apr 9, 2019 16:20
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I really enjoyed this. Kept making me think of Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters or Big Trouble in Little China. Which is pretty great company for an adventure movie. Something about the mix of corny humour, sincerity, self awareness and kinda shocking content at times just felt 80s as gently caress and in a good 'oh hey haven't seen a flick like this in a while' way, not a cheap nostalgia 'hey remember this' way. garycoleisgod posted:Watched this last night. It was OK. I mainly want to talk about something mentioned upthread about how Shazam is the worst wizard ever and probably a total moron. I'll just spoil all of it. I mean. DCCU Clark is kinda poo poo. Like not even as a knock on the Snyder movies (though I dislike them) he just wasn't exactly 'pure of heart'. Diana on the other hand... though I guess she already has Zeus powers so maybe she's ineligible.
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Apr 9, 2019 18:19
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the moral of shazam is that we are all products of our environment. the idea that anyone can be “pure of heart” is not just an impossible ideal but fundamentally toxic and self-destructive. much like the law-and-order advocates of the 80s and 90s, shazam the wizard uses inflamed, hyperbolic rhetoric to justify a capricious regime of impossible tests and procedures. those who fail are cast aside, with no consideration of how they have been traumatized. families are literally ripped apart and countless innocent people are left with mental scars disregarded as “hysteria.” when shazam is finally confronted with the unintended consequences of his actions, he chooses to leave, forcing the next generation to clean up his mess for him. QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Apr 9, 2019 |
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Apr 9, 2019 19:33
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QuoProQuid posted:the moral of shazam is that we are all products of our environment. the idea that anyone can be “pure of heart” is not just an impossible ideal but fundamentally toxic and self-destructive.
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Apr 9, 2019 19:37
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:There is a real good comic of superman finding out shazam's identity for the first time and just flipping out and flying immediately to shazam to call him a monster Those panels are soo good, also when Supes finds billy cowering in the mountains.
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Apr 9, 2019 19:39
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the superheroine costume designs were insanely outdated
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Apr 9, 2019 19:40
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sponges posted:This movies looks awful. We haven’t had a good comic book movie since BvS. Spiderverse
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Apr 9, 2019 19:57
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Venuz Patrol posted:the superheroine costume designs were insanely outdated It's literally just Mary Marvel's classic look.
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Apr 9, 2019 19:58
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McCloud posted:You're saying shazam was a boomer? i bet he posts minion memes about how kids these days are more interested in avocado toast than they are in moral perfection
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Apr 9, 2019 20:04
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Billy Batson fought nazis in WWII. That generation aged hard. He looked like he was in his mid thirties by the time he was 10.
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Apr 9, 2019 21:27
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Just got out of seeing this. It was good. I laughed a lot. Levi owns the role, but Darla is easily the best of them. The DCEU's focus on how important the hero's relationship is with their mother is something I loved about MoS, BvS, WW, and Aquaman. Shazam is no different. I'm a sucker for movies about family, so this hit some pretty emotional highs for me. There's lots to love about the character element here. This isn't the DCEU's best film, but it's obviously the most fun. My only complaint would probably be the lack of any super big action set pieces, but the film's story was smaller in scale so that's only a minor gripe really. That said, it's crazy to me how Shazam works really well as a standalone upbeat magic-powered superhero family movie that feels like it's doing it's own thing, but still manages to feel in-universe with the rest of the DCEU movies that have come before it. Looking forward to the sequel. If this is what WB/DC meant when they said they're focusing less on the shared universe concept, I like it. I don't need or really care for seeing each hero together in team ups contributing to an overarching narrative. Marvel already does that just fine. Standalone films that share a little bit of continuity is cool and I think works better for the big DC heroes who are much more in the "larger than life" category than most other comic book characters imo. teagone fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Apr 9, 2019 |
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A Fancy Hat posted:The reveal of the Crocodile Men in the doorway was wonderfully weird and a little spooky, so I'd expect some more of that in the sequel. The current story in the comics is all about those lands of magic and Mr. Mind and if they lean into that story for inspiration in the sequel it's gonna be weird as hell.
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Apr 9, 2019 23:32
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McCloud posted:Those panels are soo good, also when Supes finds billy cowering in the mountains. These ones? I really liked this part in the comic because it does such a good job of showing that even in his super-powerful adult form, he's still just a kid mind-wise. That and Superman's weak to magic, but he's so pissed off for Billy's situation, he goes and confronts a fuckin' wizard.    
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Apr 10, 2019 00:00
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teagone posted:Just got out of seeing this. It was good. I laughed a lot. Levi owns the role, but Darla is easily the best of them. Besides, Shazam!'s credits sequence, ripoff of Homecoming though it might be, is already the best crossover DC could ever hope for.
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Apr 10, 2019 01:21
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McSpanky posted:Besides, Shazam!'s credits sequence, ripoff of Homecoming though it might be, is already the best crossover DC could ever hope for. The Black Zero Event from the perspective of Bruce Wayne at the start of BvS is the best display of the shared universe concept at work, imo.
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Apr 10, 2019 02:42
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teagone posted:The Black Zero Event from the perspective of Bruce Wayne at the start of BvS is the best display of the shared universe concept at work, imo. it's the only time it was ever good outside of something beyond quick comedy.
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Apr 10, 2019 02:50
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I just saw this page of Sivana and felt like sharing it.
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Apr 10, 2019 02:50
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MonsterEnvy posted:I just saw this page of Sivana and felt like sharing it. On the one hand, killing people is bad, on the other hand, they're cops. In conclusion, Dr Sivana is a villain of contrasts.
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Apr 10, 2019 03:03
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MonsterEnvy posted:I just saw this page of Sivana and felt like sharing it. huh, Sivana used to be a good guy, cool
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Darko posted:it's the only time it was ever good outside of something beyond quick comedy. Eh, I'd say at the time of its release, the novelty of the first Avengers movie is pretty good. The novelty quickly wore off though.
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Apr 10, 2019 03:09
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I do like that the super-villain decided to stop dicking around with complicated plans and just got a gun.
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this is a bit of a dumb question, but does the movie ever explain why billy batson is physically unable to hit the deadly sin demons when initially fighting sivana initially but is somehow able to do so when he disperses his powers to his family?
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Apr 10, 2019 03:14
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teagone posted:Eh, I'd say at the time of its release, the novelty of the first Avengers movie is pretty good. The novelty quickly wore off though. I've said it before, but I'd seen that as a kid watching Universal and Godzilla movies. It may have been for younger people, but for me, it was like "oh, we're doing this again." Especially since they didn't maintain the character continuity of the older movies (which the Universal movies were super guilty of as well).
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Apr 10, 2019 03:16
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QuoProQuid posted:this is a bit of a dumb question, but does the movie ever explain why billy batson is physically unable to hit the deadly sin demons when initially fighting sivana initially but is somehow able to do so when he disperses his powers to his family? I think they were just actively phasing and then decided not to.
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QuoProQuid posted:this is a bit of a dumb question, but does the movie ever explain why billy batson is physically unable to hit the deadly sin demons when initially fighting sivana initially but is somehow able to do so when he disperses his powers to his family? I'm pretty sure it's just the sins can just become smoke and use it to dodge attacks, and Billy had just been attacking more recklessly before and missing them.
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Darko posted:I've said it before, but I'd seen that as a kid watching Universal and Godzilla movies. It may have been for younger people, but for me, it was like "oh, we're doing this again." Especially since they didn't maintain the character continuity of the older movies (which the Universal movies were super guilty of as well). Ashamed to say I've actually never seen any of the Universal monster movies, but I did watch Godzilla movies when I was younger. Though, I never got that Godzilla was a shared universe since I only really watched a handful of them from when I was like 5 years old to 12 or 13 I think. I didn't much care about any kind of shared continuity in film then. I did like the concept in my TV shows though.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:There is a real good comic of superman finding out shazam's identity for the first time and just flipping out and flying immediately to shazam to call him a monster My favorite thing about this is that magic hurts Superman like everyone else and he still gets in that wizard's face. Not only does it add to the tragedy of Captain Marvel, since it's hosed up to give a kid that much responsibility, but it's a great Superman moment too.
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QuoProQuid posted:this is a bit of a dumb question, but does the movie ever explain why billy batson is physically unable to hit the deadly sin demons when initially fighting sivana initially but is somehow able to do so when he disperses his powers to his family? The Demons can freely turn into Smoke. It was basically just dodging him.
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Apr 10, 2019 06:26
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teagone posted:The Black Zero Event from the perspective of Bruce Wayne at the start of BvS is the best display of the shared universe concept at work, imo. It definitely is and similar combinations of characters that would result in interesting contrasts or conflicts, as happened in BvS, could still be worthwhile. With that comment I was thinking in regard to WB letting Snyder go and shifting their model to episodic adventures in a common world, that the idea of a Big Teamup Event seems to be on the backburner for now, and I'm really okay with that. Also Billy stealing the Batmobile and taking it to prom is my personal canon now.
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It just occurred to me that Shazam is an Avengers villain.
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Detective No. 27 posted:It just occurred to me that Shazam is an Avengers villain. Elaborate? Edit: Oh I see, it's because he plays Korath the Pursuer in the Marvel movies. Though I would put him more as a Guardians villain then Avengers. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Apr 11, 2019 |
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Apr 11, 2019 00:13
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MonsterEnvy posted:Elaborate? Nah. Not the Wizard. Shazam destroyed the bully's truck.
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Apr 11, 2019 00:21
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Detective No. 27 posted:Nah. Not the Wizard. Shazam destroyed the bully's truck. Another reason why Captain Marvel should not be called Shazam, there is another character already called that. It's why I am glad they never call him Shazam in the movie.
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I generally avoid superhero movies like the plague and was invited to this without having any idea it was a DC thing. And I loved it. Zach Levi looks like a deepfake cross between Jimmy Fallon and a young Dax Shepard though and that weirds me out.
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SolarFire2 posted:Does it kind of mess with the DC continuity to have Gotham City, Metropolis and.. Plain old regular Philadelphia? There is an actual plot point in JLA/Avengers where while Superman is in the Marvel Universe he notes that the East Coast is smaller and has less cities. It is super dumb and hilarious.
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Roth posted:There is an actual plot point in JLA/Avengers where while Superman is in the Marvel Universe he notes that the East Coast is smaller and has less cities. Are other parts of the Marvel world bigger to fit Wakanda and Latveria?
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The best part of the Snyder films was when Pa Kent says "you are my son" and Shazam is basically making that line into a whole movie, so I'm sure all the Snyder fans will love it. Just kidding
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