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Wtf is wrong with people, speed racer was (admittedly, surprisingly) great.
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Speed Racer is the movie that Alita Battle Angel wishes it was
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Apr 18, 2019 04:29
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Mel Mudkiper posted:How do they have it so that people live out their entire lives in a very specific epoch without noticing? How do they keep an entire society frozen in 1999 for generations?
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Apr 18, 2019 04:39
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Kaedric posted:Wtf is wrong with people, speed racer was (admittedly, surprisingly) great. The racing sequences lack tension, a real problem in a Speed Racer movie. Also, the casting is just dreadful.
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Apr 18, 2019 04:58
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Halloween Jack posted:It's usually a bad idea to give a material explanation for something that's thematic. yeah but that didn't stop them
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Apr 18, 2019 12:33
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The United States posted:Speed Racer is the movie that Alita Battle Angel wishes it was Nah they're about equal and for basically the same reasons, imo
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Apr 18, 2019 17:29
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Jfc i just rewatched the Matrix on the big screen and it is still amazing and really is enhanced by the trans theme. It's just drat near a perfect film, it has like 4 layers that all work together
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Apr 19, 2019 00:13
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Is there any good biographical articles on the Wachowskis and their transition? I find it interesting that they transitioned almost a decade apart from each other and am kinda interested in how their own personal gender identity growth was influenced by each other
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Apr 19, 2019 01:35
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is there any good biographical articles on the Wachowskis and their transition? I find it interesting that they transitioned almost a decade apart from each other and am kinda interested in how their own personal gender identity growth was influenced by each other https://people.com/movies/lilly-lana-wachowski-how-transgender-siblings-supported-each-other/ You can also find various interviews with them on the subject on YouTube. They haven't really been shy. You'll just have to wade through... all of the bullshit to get to it.
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Apr 19, 2019 01:40
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got any sevens posted:Jfc i just rewatched the Matrix on the big screen and it is still amazing and really is enhanced by the trans theme. It's just drat near a perfect film, it has like 4 layers that all work together
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Apr 19, 2019 03:47
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Halloween Jack posted:The X-Files is the quintessential 90s show, and The Matrix is the quintessential 90s film. But nobody talks about X-Files anymore. I noticed this when I actually got into the series about ten years ago. It was one of the biggest TV hits of all time but come late 2000s, I couldn't find anybody to discuss it with.  Made me sad.
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Apr 23, 2019 02:07
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NikkolasKing posted:But nobody talks about X-Files anymore. I noticed this when I actually got into the series about ten years ago. It was one of the biggest TV hits of all time but come late 2000s, I couldn't find anybody to discuss it with. Most of the X-Files conspiracy narrative seems downright quaint by today's standards. The monster of the week eps still whip, though.
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Apr 23, 2019 02:10
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Easy Diff posted:I finally saw Speed Racer and it is utterly baffling. Like, it's certainly not a good movie, but it is fascinating in a way I can't quite describe. It almost feels like they wanted to cram even more into the movie, despite it being crazy-long and full of stuff. I hate the praxis of everything being a trilogy, and certainly Speed-loving-Racer doesn't need to be three goddamn films, but it's just so dense I kinda wish it was 3 films. I recall hearing from one of the VFX artists that they did a bunch MORE work on the races, that was cut. The other drivers cars were fantastically detailed, including one covered in gems, which is barely seen in the final movie (made the trailer, I think?). Did any of that make it out on bonus features? I need to give Jupiter Ascending another try, but it just wan't my slice of cheese.
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Apr 23, 2019 19:08
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As someone who really enjoyed the dirty, noir atmosphere of the Matrix as portrayed in the first movie, I consider Dark City to be the second best Matrix movie  . That atmosphere was something that was really missing from the sequels. I mean, just look at this shot:  That's what they needed more of in the sequels, not weightless drawn out fights IMO.
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Apr 23, 2019 22:12
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Failson posted:I need to give Jupiter Ascending another try, but it just wan't my slice of cheese. Some of the press about that movie talked it up as Sci-Fi for Girls...which made it feel downright sexist when I watched it. It's a childish Cinderella premise, in space, and it's weighed down at every corner with heaps of expository dialogue as if its audience has never seen or read science fiction, not even a Star War. It's perhaps the most explainy loving blockbuster movie I've ever seen, released in the year where the hands-down best genre film was Mad Max: Fury Road, which is ingenious in the way it presents a rich setting with barely any exposition.
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Apr 23, 2019 23:04
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Timespy posted:As someone who really enjoyed the dirty, noir atmosphere of the Matrix as portrayed in the first movie, I consider Dark City to be the second best Matrix movie The Matrix city at night scenes were literally shot on the old sets from Dark City Like, thats a Dark City set the Wachowskis borrowed
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Apr 23, 2019 23:08
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The Matrix city at night scenes were literally shot on the old sets from Dark City Oh, that's pretty cool! I knew they they reused the rooftop set, as it was pretty obvious from watching the two movies, but had no idea that the movies shared more than that one set. Anyways, they should've done that more, it gave the Matrix city character.
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Apr 23, 2019 23:28
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Halloween Jack posted:The X-Files is the quintessential 90s show, and The Matrix is the quintessential 90s film. I just wanted to chime in and say that The Matrix came out in 1999, the real quintessential 90s film is Hackers. But I do appreciate me some Wachowskis.
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Apr 24, 2019 20:09
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To be honest the peak 90s movie is Reality Bites.
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Apr 24, 2019 22:12
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porfiria posted:To be honest the peak 90s movie is Reality Bites. ::remembers Fukuyama:: Never mind.
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Apr 24, 2019 23:47
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porfiria posted:To be honest the peak 90s movie is Reality Bites. Wrong it's SFW or possibly Empire Records
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Apr 25, 2019 20:55
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precision posted:Wrong it's SFW or possibly Empire Records What about Joe's Apartment
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Apr 25, 2019 21:33
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Basebf555 posted:What about Joe's Apartment Hell yes I wonder if the wachowskis saw that
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Apr 25, 2019 21:47
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What was robot society like? What were they doing to necessitate keeping humans alive for hundreds of years as batteries?
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Apr 26, 2019 12:01
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Fried Watermelon posted:What was robot society like? What were they doing to necessitate keeping humans alive for hundreds of years as batteries? I like the fan theory that the battery explanation was bullshit - the robots were simply inclined to look after the human population after the humans hosed up the Earth. Maybe because of some left-over programming from when they still served humans. Otherwise why bother with the simulation at all?
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Apr 26, 2019 13:12
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Timespy posted:I like the fan theory that the battery explanation was bullshit - the robots were simply inclined to look after the human population after the humans hosed up the Earth. Maybe because of some left-over programming from when they still served humans. Otherwise why bother with the simulation at all? I dunno, the Architect turned out to be completely bluffing when he said that the machines would crash the Matrix and kill everyone in it if Neo didn't agree to return to the Source. Neo called him on it, he said it was bullshit, but the Architect claimed there were "levels of survival" they were willing to accept. But it was bullshit, Neo refused to play ball and the machines did not follow through with that threat.
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Apr 26, 2019 14:09
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I thought the original concept was that they're using human brains as a server farm to run the Matrix itself, but that this was deemed to complicated for the average moviegoer and dumped in favour of the simplistic "body heat battery" explanation.
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Apr 26, 2019 15:03
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porfiria posted:To be honest the peak 90s movie is Reality Bites. Clueless is peak 90s
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Apr 26, 2019 15:17
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sponges posted:Clueless is peak 90s Hackers would like a word here about peak 90s.
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Apr 27, 2019 06:52
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Virtuosity was the Matrix before the Matrix. It roughly even follows the same plot.
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Apr 27, 2019 19:44
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Justin Godscock posted:Hackers would like a word here about peak 90s. No, he's right, Clueless is peak 90s. That and the Leave It To Beaver movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZXVBHwFJy8
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Apr 27, 2019 23:27
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And Blade
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Apr 27, 2019 23:51
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got any sevens posted:And Blade That said I appreciate how much Blade is like an ur-2000s movie too like The Matrix.
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Apr 28, 2019 01:19
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Tenzarin posted:Virtuosity was the Matrix before the Matrix. It roughly even follows the same plot. Man I love Virtuosity. Russel Crowe's best work.
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Apr 28, 2019 07:11
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davidspackage posted:Man I love Virtuosity. Russel Crowe's best work. "How's the wife and kid? Still dead, huh?"
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Matrix 4 is in the works with Wachowskis involvement(edit: apparently this is still rumored and not confirmed): https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wachowskis-fourth-matrix-movie_n_5cd59785e4b0705e47db2f8f I’m hoping the John Wick series director goes from Matrix stuntman to helming this sequel. Ubiquitous_ fucked around with this message at 02:36 on May 12, 2019 |
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May 12, 2019 02:31
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I could see this happening and I would saddly see this movie.
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May 13, 2019 07:30
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Have a look at your local cinema listings for July 12 onwards. It’s the 20th anniversary of The Matrix and a load of the ones here in the UK will be showing it on the big screen. As someone who only saw the original on VHS this is super exciting. 
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Jun 14, 2019 07:49
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Did any of you catch Patrick (H)'s bit on rewriting the Matrix sequels? I thought it was a really great video from someone who, like many of us in this thread, truly appreciates Reloaded and Revolutions but finds them to be deeply flawed. Totally love his idea of making the Merovingian the main antagonist of Reloaded and having Neo & Co. wander around a big spooky castle. I always thought the Merovingian was one of the biggest missed opportunities in the sequels for as much of a huge deal he is both thematically and in terms of moving the actual plot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqhhy0yGAX4
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I always thought they really needed to do more with the implication that the Merovingian was a previous iteration of The One
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