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RIP Full Band. Who could have possibly foreseen that repeatedly bragging about stealing classified information on open comms while in a penal unit would have serious consequences?
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I suppose in a world where some guy can acquire classified information while in jail another prisoner could get in talks with the enemy... So I still don't count ( ) out the possibility that Count is working with Eursea.
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May 4, 2019 07:01
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I vote for Typhoon with LAAMs, probably want to be able to kill your escort from far away.
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May 4, 2019 14:26
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I enjoyed the fishbed far more than you did. Just imagine how hard that mission would have been without all those guns and super-speed!
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May 4, 2019 15:02
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lofi posted:I enjoyed the fishbed far more than you did. Just imagine how hard that mission would have been without all those guns and super-speed! Not gonna lie--the machine gun pods were decently better than I anticipated. Probably could've picked up better results if I had used the F/A-18 with the railgun, though
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Zanzibar Ham posted:I suppose in a world where some guy can acquire classified information while in jail another prisoner could get in talks with the enemy... So I still don't count ( Possible. He did draw all of those drones 2 missions back, and then takes out Full Band...I'm guessing we'll see soon enough with the upcoming sortie, since I predict that either
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The perfect assassin is the sniper. So clearly, if we're going to kill McKinsey and blame it on drones/the ghost of Harling/Bandog we need the plane equivalent of a sniper rifle. F/A-18 with Railgun.
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Solid reasoning nobody can argue with. F/A-18 with Railgun
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MiG-21bis Fishbed   Available SP Weapons
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In-Game Description: A classically-designed small, low-weight fighter combining delta wings and horizontal tail wings. While its tricky controls ask a lot of the pilot, it boasts an impressive war record. It also has a number of nicknames on account of its striking appearance in the sky. Real-Life Info: Welcome to the oldest plane on here, with the MiG-21F being introduced to service in 1959; This variant saw production start in 1972. This is also the longest-serving plane in this game, still in active service in 18 country's militaries. Built to serve both an interceptor and fighter role, its unique design allowed for acceleration up to mach 2, making it comparable to the F104 Starfighter and the Mirage III (with this plane coming first). However, that design comes with significant drawbacks, as the BodyEngine severely limits the ability of the plane to use radar, and its fuel tank placement greatly shifted the center of gravity as the plane flew, cutting its stable flight time. 10,645 of these were produced over its run, making it the most-produced supersonic military aircraft in history. Also, if you have a lot of disposable income lying around, you can purchase one of these for your very own! (according to FAA records in 2012, there were 44 privately-owned MiG-21s in the US)
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May 5, 2019 22:14
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Here's mission 10! See if you were right in the BETRAYAL LOTTERY! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61BnuHUBofc  VOTING TIME What should we fly this time around? Here are your choices:
If you're lost, look upthread. the order's the same. Tired as hell after another concert so the names are silly
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May 7, 2019 03:23
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Fishbeds, fishbeds, roly poly fishbeds... Gotta say that railgun is nice on the off chance it hits anything. 
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May 7, 2019 03:28
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The EML is downright ridiculous if you're using arcade controls or are really good with sim controls. But even if you can't hit moving targets with it it's nice being able to blap slow things from several times missile range. I'm glad you showed us that wonderful Bandog line you get if you lose. For the next mission, I know the obvious choice is something with anti ship missiles, but they kind of turn it into a joke. I promise you'll have much more fun seeing those ships up close and personal in an F-15C Eagle with the PLSL. Sindai fucked around with this message at 05:26 on May 7, 2019 |
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May 7, 2019 04:54
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Wow, can't believe we were betrayed by our expectations! Anyway this felt like a pretty lame rear end level, gotta say. But the same can be said of most escort missions. Anyway, is there really a reason to use specifically anti-ship weapons when you have general anti-ground weapons? I suggest taking that Rafale M and giving that cool-sounding LACM a
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I have no testing to back this up but I’d guess anti ship weapons do some kind of lock on shenanigans.
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This next mission is my favourite in the entire game, and the thing about it is basically any plane is a shortcut to a good time. However, I must second F-15C with PLSL because really who can say no to sticking a laser cannon on a jet?
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May 7, 2019 07:37
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Su-30 flanker. I have no idea about its capabilities but it's a pretty aircraft.
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May 7, 2019 12:06
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Bob Smith posted:F-15C with PLSL This. That railgun is beautifully silly, and I appreciate how unaerodynamic it was. Also phallic.
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lofi posted:This. That railgun is beautifully silly, and I appreciate how unaerodynamic it was. Also phallic. It took me ages to get good with the railgun but there's a certain joy to replaying the campaign with it unlocked and sniping the mystery man in the thunderstorm mission with a gun that really doesn't care whether or not you can lock on in clouds.
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May 7, 2019 21:15
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Sindai posted:The EML is downright ridiculous if you're using arcade controls or are really good with sim controls. But even if you can't hit moving targets with it it's nice being able to blap slow things from several times missile range. The railgun was pretty dope, but I'm not great a long-range shooting. ....and you're welcome? I wasn't intending to fail the mission, but I'm glad some enjoyment could be had from it.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Anyway, is there really a reason to use specifically anti-ship weapons when you have general anti-ground weapons? LASMs are sea-skimming, which in Strangereal means that shipborne CIWS can't engage them at all.
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Oh, okay, that makes game-sense at least I suppose. But man, I really wanna see those cruise missiles one day. They look like tiny boats, they gotta explode pretty good right?
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they, uh. they sure do.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Oh, okay, that makes game-sense at least I suppose. But man, I really wanna see those cruise missiles one day. They look like tiny boats, they gotta explode pretty good right? Sadly, not this time. You'll see something MUCH more interesting, though I found my new favorite weaponAnyway, we're a little delayed this week, so the video should be going up today. Stay tuned!
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Professor Duck posted:Sadly, not this time. You'll see something MUCH more interesting, though Hey if you found a fun weapon that's anything but sad! Can't wait to see what's up. e: by the way, I've seen the game go on sale here and there so figured it's a good time to ask, what's the general opinion of the various flying Aces here on the game? Is it real good and I should snag it on the next sale, or wait until it's at least 50% off, etc'...? Zanzibar Ham fucked around with this message at 14:35 on May 11, 2019 |
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Professor Duck posted:Sadly, not this time. You'll see something MUCH more interesting, though Delay’s admittedly my fault. Should be good to go shortly though.  Drastic schedule change at work plus raw video 3x longer than usual to edit = whooooooa 
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Hey if you found a fun weapon that's anything but sad! Can't wait to see what's up. Well, if you've played any of the other more recent entries from the series (except Assault Horizon, 'cause gently caress that one), then its definitely worth it. Solid controls, its fun (even the frustrating missions, like 9), and even though I haven't actually tried it, there's multiplayer Depends on how much you like the genre, too--if you enjoy games like this (or others from the series), then its a definite good buy on sale. I know Dewgy bought it because of this LP, and from what he tells me, the VR missions are pretty rad. I got a nice deal buying it during launch week, 'cause I got AC5 for free, Oddly enough, I can't SharePlay that with Dewgy because the game is region-locked. Not sure how, since we're both in the same country. It's a little odd.
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Okay--after a little bit of delay due to copious failures, the latest episode is ready! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtrQ_0CQEOk VOTING TIME Take yer pick!
Voting closes May 16 at noon EST. It's a little longer to vote, but we're trying to maintain schedule and my piss-poor flying gave Dewgy fits on editing
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Yeah, that's the authentic Fleet Destruction experience. 15 minutes of flying back and forth over a dozen SAM launchers with no checkpoint. AC History: Stonehenge is a battery of giant guns built to destroy incoming meteorites (AC Earth was hit by a devastating shower of asteroid fragments in 1999) that was repurposed into a superweapon in Ace Combat 4, until the player blows it up. I don't think you've used SAAMs and we haven't seen many Russian planes so far so MiG-31B Foxhound with SAAMs. Sindai fucked around with this message at 07:19 on May 13, 2019 |
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Professor Duck posted:Well, if you've played any of the other more recent entries from the series (except Assault Horizon, 'cause gently caress that one), then its definitely worth it. Solid controls, its fun (even the frustrating missions, like 9), and even though I haven't actually tried it, there's multiplayer Depends on how much you like the genre, too--if you enjoy games like this (or others from the series), then its a definite good buy on sale. I know Dewgy bought it because of this LP, and from what he tells me, the VR missions are pretty rad. Well I've wanted to try an Ace Combat, but the only one I could get on PC was well... Assault Horizon (which somehow I have on Steam but of course never actually touched). So if 7's good I'll be happy to finally give the series a shot. Anyway, just watched the video. It's no sneaking mission, but I'll go with Sindai's Foxhound w/ SAAMs vote.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Well I've wanted to try an Ace Combat, but the only one I could get on PC was well... Assault Horizon (which somehow I have on Steam but of course never actually touched). So if 7's good I'll be happy to finally give the series a shot. Yeah, don't play Assault Horizon if you have a 360 or xbone, I'd recommend 6 as well as 7, playing earlier ones is a little weird since they don't have high-g turns, but they're still pretty nifty.The writing can be meh at times, but the gameplay is solid.
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So hey AC7 may be 33% off on Humble (40% off thanks to my Humble Monthly bonus), meaning your LP sold at least 2 copies of the game at least now!
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Zanzibar Ham posted:So hey AC7 may be 33% off on Humble (40% off thanks to my Humble Monthly bonus), meaning your LP sold at least 2 copies of the game at least now! If only I got something from that... Oh, well. The game is lots of fun, so you'll at least enjoy it!
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A little delayed (again), but here's the latest: THE MYSTERY OF THE DRUIDS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0QkHG4VPuM VOTING TIME So, the briefing says we don't get a SP weapon this time. Looks like you just get to pick the plane. The list is still the same:
Voting closes May 19th at 1 PM EDT. I've been re-flying mission 11 with the LASM. All of the struggles I had could've been solved taking that weapon--Every ship but the carrier goes down in 1 missile, and I've been hitting the target score in about 9 minutes
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Next mission is watery, so let's go with a Typhoon. (I do not know planes, so I'm going off 'that sounds fun' logic) Also, drat the flying wedge was ugggly.
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Typhoon seems alright. e: oh yeah, how about trying to organize a multiplayer match sometime? I probably won't be using my mic but I'll try to stay in the air at most times Zanzibar Ham fucked around with this message at 16:31 on May 18, 2019 |
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Oof, I thought the SAAMs were actually pretty good for that mission but there were fewer bomber and more ground waves than I remembered. Something with anti ground weapons would have made the first half easier, at least. As a general rule, tanks and AD tanks (which are nasty things with both point defense guns and SAMs) take two missiles to kill while all other ground targets take one. A-10s take 3 normal missiles or two special missiles, which makes them very annoying unless you can get some gun hits on them.
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Although I 100% agree with the point you guys have made in the videos about how the dialogue gets tiresome if you keep failing a mission over and over (and there is one down the line I hit that point on very quickly) I really like the cheesiness of a lot of the mission chatter - the scientists and ground troops yelling throughout the Stonehenge mission is straight out of an over the top sci-fi movie and seeing the giant cannon blow up the drone carrier completely ignoring its shield is a great feeling. Ace Combat really nails that and it's why I love the series - after a few missions of things going really badly, enemy aces taking you for a ride, solitary, drones everywhere you pull some awesome trick out of the bag, everybody starts talking about how awesome you are as a pilot and you blow something enormous up.
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lofi posted:Next mission is watery, so let's go with a Typhoon. (I do not know planes, so I'm going off 'that sounds fun' logic) Yeah--the Arsenal Birds are kinda doofy. The Typhoon looks alright. The delta wings seems much more maneuverable, so that should be helpful coming up. Zanzibar Ham posted:Typhoon seems alright. Sure! Granted, my time is a little limited right now, but I'll have much more time once I'm done teaching for the year. Dewgy and I could put something together Sindai posted:Oof, I thought the SAAMs were actually pretty good for that mission but there were fewer bomber and more ground waves than I remembered. Something with anti ground weapons would have made the first half easier, at least. ...but those SAAMs were GREAT for taking out the bombers. Probably would've needed more runs if I didn't have them. Ground targets are (most of the time) no sweat for me. I usually just end up doing what I did here--flying into the ground Bob Smith posted:Although I 100% agree with the point you guys have made in the videos about how the dialogue gets tiresome if you keep failing a mission over and over (and there is one down the line I hit that point on very quickly) I really like the cheesiness of a lot of the mission chatter - the scientists and ground troops yelling throughout the Stonehenge mission is straight out of an over the top sci-fi movie and seeing the giant cannon blow up the drone carrier completely ignoring its shield is a great feeling. I do appreciate the urgency and setting the scene from the dialogue, but it frustrates me when I have to head it over and over when I know I've screwed up and I know what I should be doing. I do appreciate the learning curve--while someone could bump down to easy, it's not necessary assuming you've been paying attention. I like games that require you to build up your skills, but not ones that are insane time sinks. The Skate series is a great example of that. Also, thanks for the implication that I don't completely suck at flying
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Professor Duck posted:Also, thanks for the implication that I don't completely suck at flying Speaking of, I got to the mission to bomb 17000 points worth of stuff (mission 6 I think), and promptly crashed into a near mountain range. Then I remembered I decided to try out expert controls for a bit last time I played. Which brings me to a question - should I try to learn expert controls? Or is standard completely fine?
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Speaking of, I got to the mission to bomb 17000 points worth of stuff (mission 6 I think), and promptly crashed into a near mountain range. Then I remembered I decided to try out expert controls for a bit last time I played. Ah, mission 6--it's a fun mission, but some of the terrain is very unforgiving, as you seem to have experienced I would recommend trying to learn expert controls. The big difference in the control schemes is what the left stick does, at least from the description (I haven't used standard, so I'm guessing). The normal controls almost seem like a Starfox-like control scheme, while expert is closer to how a real plane would handle. Of course, not being able to roll and bank effectively feels like it would severely hinder maneuverability. Also, a lot of the fine-tuning moves you see me do (strafing runs, landings, refuelings, etc)are with the shoulder buttons, which controls the rudder. That will steer the plane left and right without rolling. If nothing else, load up mission 1 in free flight, go up close to the aircraft's ceiling, and just fly around and get a handle for it. When you're in dogfights, having the ability to make moves like what you see me do is really helpful. Hope that helps!
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